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Just to make me feel more of a slacker... she has severe Tourett Syndrome.
Her brother is the computer music nerd. He won the Producer's Grammie.
Someone needs to look into how they were Home Schooled.
I played with a young girl that was also home schooled and she was great at 15.
She has self produced 4 more albums since I played some percussion on her first.
Each one gained confidence and sophistication. Sometimes this home schooling thing
creates real innovators. High schools are innovation destroyers.
"Teenagers scare the hell out of me." - MCR
Word.
Actually - considering amount of amazing music made by people here at this forum just on iPad or iPhone, this actually doesn't surprise me at all
It's just about skill, knowledge and talent. Not about tools you use.
Billie Eilish is the best thing that’s happened to popular music in a long time. It’s awesome to see music that sounds this dark become so popular. Her album sounds like it could have been made by a mid 90s trip-hop group, and that’s a good thing obviously, it’s actually hard to believe she has stormed the charts and teenage girl’s hearts quite like she has with that dark and menacing sound.
I think they key is that they do NOT waste any time hanging out on internet forums.
They spent their time making finished tracks and then passing them to a Mastering Engineer. If they ever discover the online world they will be lost.
You must not know many teenage girls!
(Very hard to make that not sound creepy. But my daughter and her friends feel SEEN.)
I appreciate the fact that she is different than the rest of the cookie cutter crap out there and I don’t hate her but I have to say I don’t see what makes her so special either. I have yet to hear one memorable tune from her.
Pop music is not what it used to be. I guess I’m old.
Totally fair enough, but compare Billie Eilish to other recent artists popular among teenage girls and you might see my point better (Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber etc).
Swift had it all after Fearless...then threw it all away over and over again, each time worse than the last. Totally fell into the Hollywood trap. Now she seems like another vacuous, slightly psychotic, (but very beautiful) woman.
Different people like different things I guess. I think her entire album is good from start to finish, as well as the older EP. Lots of good tunes IMO. Her only slip is Bury A Friend which sounds too similar to People Are Strange for my tastes, it bugs me every time I hear it.
Yeah the invisalign intro is the best part of the album. I laughed out loud at how simple and funny that is, kids being kids. The albums alright, though. Reminds me when people flipped over that 1979 band a couple years back, except a bit better.
I share + I'm discovering and listening to her music. It's so personal, musical, original, creative, sounds easy but what a beautiful work on sound). Vocals are great too. Hat off!
It is not about hardware or software it's all about the ideas. And then you stick to your idea because that's the way to craete something unique.
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May not hang out in internet forums but she’s all over YouTube - interviews, how they write record and, amongst others, those ones where she responds to fans versions of her songs. It all loses me - just an old f@rt!
I think they key is that they do NOT waste any time hanging out on internet forums.
Pop music isn't easy! To walk the line of being popular and not wanting to be popular!? Or at least appearing that way? It's tough. Although the video when she wins the fifth Grammy, you can actually see her saying "please don't be me please don't be me"! And the groan when her name is announced!
I mean, of course she wants to win! But she's also a teenager who probably believes she doesn't want to.
I hope she can avoid the bad advice that is surely coming her way now. @oat_phipps You're dead on about Talyor Swift. She was a really winning songwriter for a long time. Even a cornball and genre-bound song like "Sparks Fly" is beautifully written. And she certainly has moments later, but somebody convinced her that to get to the "next level" would require a change in persona....
I find everything I’ve heard by Billie Eilish melodically, rhythmically, dynamically, and by any other measure of what makes good music, devoid of anything worthy of interest. Even by the measure of teenager hacks making beats in their bedroom the stuff I heard was at best average.
OK Boomer
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Same sentiment without the sarcasm.
+1 a million! I don’t begrudge her success. I just don’t see what the big deal is.
When I heard about her, I was prepared to be blown away. Admittedly, I’ve only heard the hits, and it’s conceivable there could be some genius deep cuts hiding behind the hype, but the few songs that I sampled were so boing and underwhelming (including the “Song Of The Year”) that I had difficulty getting to the end. I don’t think I’ve ever run across a better example of “overrated”.
Wear it Proud:
I’m going to take the bait - I am a fan of the trio. I’m impressed with Finneas as the producer, Billie as the voice, a remote mixing engineer (Rob Kinelski) , and their ability to collaborate. That’s what makes me a fan of their work.
Finneas is a hero for us bedroom/mobile studio producers - Shows how much is possible, and how you can get your craft refined without using the best of the best equipment to getting 4 Grammies. Remember, Ocean Eyes was made by 14 year old Eilish, combined with the skills of Finneas in producing a song, all in a bedroom.
Billie’s dark attitude combined with her vocal range makes her standout to a lot of vocalists. Unapologetic, and having diverse influences in music is so refreshing.
But the song could not be expanded without someone being able to critically judge and master the song. Rob taking the works of two talented but inexperienced musicians and adding his wealth of expertise adds an element of polish that would not have been accomplished by the duo.
So we have a Gen Z (Billie), a Millennial (Finneas, well sorta), and a Boomer (Rob) working together.
Man, some major saltines in this thread.
I had time to kill at work so decided to give her a listen.
Anyway, based on some of what I read here i expected a lot darker but maybe since I always zone out on lyrical content I am missing the darker aspects. The goofy thumbnails of her made me expect something more goth or industrial but I guess that is just fashion and my outdated expectations.
Definitely reverberates with some 90s stuff. Bjork, Trip Hop stuff, Jewel, even some Fugees at times. For me musically with 'voice as an instrument' it treads mostly peaceful and softly upbeat, barely hit my dark-o-meter. Not surprising it would be popular these days as it seems a lot of kids need an gentle antidote for being stressed and depressed (interconnection burn out), but youth seems to lean intrinsically optimistic and hopeful so I was just left with an overall nice 'i get you' vibe.
I’m talking about the songs here not not making judgements on her voice, the production or who is producing, engineering etc.
This MY opinion, I just don’t think the songs are very good.
I can see how you might be unmoved if you came to her late. But her success seems to be really organic. I first heard "You Should See Me in a Crown" about a year ago when I happened to be in super-cool streetwear store. (Looking for a present, not for me! Not a hypebeast.)
The soundtrack they were playing was typical cool-kid trap music, but this song totally stuck out. I was like, What the hell is this?
I'd recommend not watching official video if you just want to hear the track. She's beautiful and has a really cool presentation, but it distracts from how weird this is. This song could have been on Some Bizarre in the 80s.
Yeah I think the feeling of “dark” has changed a bit within the last decade or so. It used to be that you sounded dark if you had a serious connection with dark themes and your tone aligned with those themes. Basically evil sounding like evil. The younger generations like mine and those younger than me have been gradually finding that mentality a bit played out. The more seriously someone takes themselves, the less seriously we tend to take them.
People like Billie really speak to the younger generations because she expresses awareness and connection to “dark” feelings and sentiments but doesn’t really take it seriously. It’s kind of this twisted mentality of making light of the darker aspects of life. This is a very common coping mechanism with the younger millennials and gen z.
Perfect song to display her talents.
I’d also add “bury a friend”:
Fair point. I respect that.
Interesting, thanks for the inside generational scoop!