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Ahhhh ok. She’s lived a full enough life then to be much darker, scarier, deeper, taller, etc.
Carry on.
Lmao
I don’t think anyone here is flaming her are they?
The past ten years I have mostly been catching up on stuff from before 1980 (I was born in 1975) with a few rare exceptions.
There certainly is a massive amount of music to ‘catch up on’ so I get what you’re saying.
I was born in 1961 and my elder sisters used to play the Beatles when I was a toddler so I’ve heard a lot stuff over the years. Maybe I’m some kind of obsessive but I can’t tear myself away from some of the music that’s (still) coming out.
If I ever had to do such a thing I would list Billie Eilish, Daughter and Rufus Du Soul in my top ten bands/acts ever - all from the last five to ten years.
A few of my music-loving friends seem to have stopped listening to new music in the 90s. I really don’t get that.
Yah I was mostly referring to popular music falling off for me. The newer stuff I listen to (Tipper, Clutch, a bunch of hip hop and rap ) would be nowhere near an awards show (although I do like some mumblers, are they a thing there?). I think right now with the internet I get to play catch up on all the albums I could not find/afford and be fascinated with the connections to the things I grew up listening to that had the most raw impact as my brain formed. I enjoy the detective work of going back to before I was born and hearing what those people must have been listening to and realizing a lot of them were very much building on others and I had no idea. Most brand spanking new popular stuff just sounds like advertisements to me or demos for hardware/software or just reboots of other bands. Yup, I am a classic old sod.
Hehe. If someone really pushed me to do a full top ten then it would definitely have old stuff in it too: Yes, Gabriel-era Genesis, Tears for Fears, Pink Floyd. There is something amazing about how those older bands had very little to draw on but came out with such original ideas - yet today, with all that vast repository to draw from, so much is indeed just regurgitated +insert word of choice here+.
Yah despite the amazing access now i think there is more of a tribal thing going on where people can stay within camps of their personal interest with more to listen to of a given sound than they have time for. Back in the day I think a lot of music fans may have been forced to be more adventurous through scarcity. I would go through my parents and grandparents albums to find stuff to listen to because I could not afford to buy more. (Small town isolation may have contributed to that). I imagine that now a kid who realizes they like X genre can have a barely repeating playlist of the stuff pumping to them 24/7 and the new shiny wins more than likely.
I think she’s an ugly person. Actually the tone of her music videos confirms it beyond doubt. People who are fans of her have no sensibility in my opinion. And the Grammys are the institution responsible for giving us the continued success of so called artists like her and Nikki Ménage etc. To be a Grammy award winner in current year doesn’t carry the weight it used to have 10-20 years ago.
What a deeply ignorant and judgemental statement.
I'm a fan, and so are my teenage children, so fuck you.
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@LucidMusicInc Ok boomer.
I love music.
But there is some music that I categorically despise.
There are acts I love. There are acts I don't like. There are entire genres I just can't listen to.
But if you despise an act I love it matters not one jot. You are entitled to your opinion and you are obviously entitled to love and hate whatever you like. I have a thick skin and am confident in what I like. I don't have any guilty pleasures as I don't feel guilty for liking something. If you hate my favourite song, so what? It won't make me love it any less.
I don't even care if somebody hates my own music. It's obviously much nicer when people say nice things, but not everybody will like it. And you can't stop people from acting like a dick. Cos that's what people do.. You just need to try and not let it affect you as it's clearly their problem, not yours.
So in my book if you criticise something I like I don't give a fig. I'm cool with that. But it gets personal when you criticise a person for liking something you don't. Or for not liking something you do. Leave that shit in the school playground.
Lol, OK now there is flaming.
I mean. I don't know her body of work at all, I had to google who she is, but if she's writing for her and it clicks with the teen demographic, what's the problem?
If you don't like it, don't listen to it. If you have kids that listen to it and you don't like it, well, my condolences? lol...
I hope that I never become closed-minded to new music as time goes on.
I’d rather see the Grammys (agreed, mostly irrelevant) put more focus on emerging musicians than still focusing on the same old bands that haven’t put out anything new in decades.
Nostalgia has its place but new music marches on.... 😎✌️
The man behind the curtain cannot be unseen.
Only old people watch TV so it makes sense.
Long live archeology and new discoveries of the long dead.
Someone is making a nice living making, selling and performing music.
The majority of us are in our bedrooms with dreams of an audience that gives a shit.
How about Lil Nas X:
He bought the backing track with rights for $30.
Then saved up money for the studio time to lay down vocals.
He had a #1 Hit in the Hip-hop and Country markets at the same time.
He can now afford his own bedroom studio.
I think this whole discussion is a discourse on the connection of the creator to an audience.
BUT Music Criticism is useful, valuable and noble form of writing:
Who's your favorite music critic that helped you understand why a new artist was work
re-evaluating?
Sharing any opinions here have the benefit of exposing yet another point of view of the artist, the industry, the current culture and who we are.
I found this years Grammy Awards to be a turning point that rewarded music as an art
that I like. Not so dance oriented but more of a canvas for interesting uses of sound and
ideas.
lol, always the comedian. Now i am getting your humor.
WTF?!?!
You are criticizing a PERSON because YOU don't like her music?
Using "ugly" as a way to insult someone is .... well ugly.
How about "I don't care for her music and don't understand what the appeal is?"
Saves some words and doesn't make it seem like you are the arbiter of good and bad in the world.
The Grammys carry about as much weight as the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame or critics opinions or anything else. People just like to take sides, criticize and categorize. It’s all nonsense. I like what I like and I don’t need anyone else’s affirmation.
Damnit, I missed the part where I could jump in about music exploration and discovery and wax nostalgic about the sacred flea market store I had as a teenager, or my countless rush trips to Tower and back during Yearbook period in high school to give something new and unknown a shot. Instead the thread turned to crap.
It's silly to jump on Lucidsomething something for having an opinion, even if it was expressed in a strangely disdainful manner.
I still don't quite get it. Occasionally when he has banter with Linear Lineman I get the feeling that they are two elder statesman joking like they used to on the San Francisco trolley in the 1930s. Then sometimes it seems like he's gone off the rails with no explanation other than senility. Then other times I'm just lost. No offense, McD, just consider yourself an enigma. Keep on doin what you're doin.
Grammy awards really carried a lot of weight 30 years ago, because the good ol' days are always better.
Milli Vanilli > Billie Eilish (you know it's true)
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
Oh yeah, I forgot to add the same shit was being said about the Grammys being out of touch as far back as I can remember...there is no case of 'olden days were better days' on this one. I read an article recapping, and I'm not sure but I think I read that Aerosmith and DMC performed 'Walk This Way'...again!?! That is so funny it hurts.
No one jumped on him for just having an opinion. If he had just said he didn't like it , no one would have batted an eye.
Putting down a person because you don't like their music is different from putting down their music. IMO, society is not made better by letting people mouth off cruel and ugly attitudes without comment.
This.
Did I offend you snowflake? Piss off! She’s an occult worshipper promoting all kinds of blatant negativity. And as someone who has to deal with teenage girls on a professional basis, having someone in the media acting as a role model dramatising various forms of self destruction see [the partys over] she and her music label are a disgrace to mankind. If your getting on your liberal high horse I’ll get on mine too. I’m going Ricky Gervais on your pathetic moronic ass.