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Off Topique: Mixing Billie Eilish for fun and profit. FYI: She has Tourettes.

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  • Oh, and how old are you?

  • ALBALB
    edited January 2020

    When I think of "dark", I think of Joy Division or Throbbing Gristle (I assume there's much darker stuff out there, but I'm old and that's the dark stuff that I like). Anyway, no criticism intended. Glad people of all stripes have things to listen to... And yeah, Bjork seems like an obvious influence.

  • The problem is when you have heard so many melodies and they all become generic.

    Like bury a friend vs the doors, people are strange.

    Once you get past that it’s more enjoyable ;-)

  • @topaz said:
    The problem is when you have heard so many melodies and they all become generic.

    Like bury a friend vs the doors, people are strange.

    Once you get past that it’s more enjoyable ;-)

    I get that but I also can't unhear a passage from "Jesus Christ Superstar" sung by the Pharisees!

  • @topaz said:
    The problem is when you have heard so many melodies and they all become generic.

    Like bury a friend vs the doors, people are strange.

    Once you get past that it’s more enjoyable ;-)

    True, but if you've had "People Are Strange" jammed into your memory, then it's hard to get past it. I don't even like "People Are Strange" or the Doors that much, I'm just from an age where people had the radio on all of the time (work, school, buses, streets), so much so that there are certain songs that are ingrained and I have no ability to erase them. Like, do I really want to have "Sometimes When We Touch" in my head? No, but sitting in laundromats waiting for my clothes to dry has scarred me forever. BTW, I have my own washer and dryer now...

  • @AudioGus said:

    Oh, and how old are you?

    28, but also have a lot of friends in their early twenties.

  • Dark is obviously in comparison to mainstream pop music, you know Katie Perry, Arianna Grande, Pink, and all the other stuff teenage girls listen to.

    Duh.

  • @richardyot said:

    @yowza said:
    I appreciate the fact that she is different than the rest of the cookie cutter crap out there and I don’t hate her but I have to say I don’t see what makes her so special either. I have yet to hear one memorable tune from her.
    Pop music is not what it used to be. I guess I’m old.

    Different people like different things I guess. I think her entire album is good from start to finish, as well as the older EP. Lots of good tunes IMO. Her only slip is Bury A Friend which sounds too similar to People Are Strange for my tastes, it bugs me every time I hear it.

    Ha ha, yes my daughter's class dance to this and I always want to break into "..when you're strange" at the bit where Billie leaves a gap.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:

    @topaz said:
    The problem is when you have heard so many melodies and they all become generic.

    Like bury a friend vs the doors, people are strange.

    Once you get past that it’s more enjoyable ;-)

    I get that but I also can't unhear a passage from "Jesus Christ Superstar" sung by the Pharisees!

    Fool, you have no perception.

  • @richardyot said:
    Dark is obviously in comparison to mainstream pop music, you know Katie Perry, Arianna Grande, Pink, and all the other stuff teenage girls listen to.

    Yah it is all relative. I had/have no idea who the previous grammy pop winners were in the past decade or what they sound like.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:

    @topaz said:
    The problem is when you have heard so many melodies and they all become generic.

    Like bury a friend vs the doors, people are strange.

    Once you get past that it’s more enjoyable ;-)

    I get that but I also can't unhear a passage from "Jesus Christ Superstar" sung by the Pharisees!

    So like John before him, this Jesus must die?

  • @iansainsbury said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @topaz said:
    The problem is when you have heard so many melodies and they all become generic.

    Like bury a friend vs the doors, people are strange.

    Once you get past that it’s more enjoyable ;-)

    I get that but I also can't unhear a passage from "Jesus Christ Superstar" sung by the Pharisees!

    So like John before him, this Jesus must die?

    EXACTLY

  • @jipumarino said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @topaz said:
    The problem is when you have heard so many melodies and they all become generic.

    Like bury a friend vs the doors, people are strange.

    Once you get past that it’s more enjoyable ;-)

    I get that but I also can't unhear a passage from "Jesus Christ Superstar" sung by the Pharisees!

    Fool, you have no perception.

    HAHAHA

  • @AudioGus said:
    I had time to kill at work so decided to give her a listen.

    Anyway, based on some of what I read here i expected a lot darker but maybe since I always zone out on lyrical content I am missing the darker aspects. The goofy thumbnails of her made me expect something more goth or industrial but I guess that is just fashion and my outdated expectations.

    Perhaps unfairly, I think the "darker" description is prolly relative to other white teenage female pop singers on the radio. It definitely ain't Bauhaus but as compared to "I just met you and this is crazy"...

  • I’m slightly disappointed... I don’t see any secrets here that will help me win a Grammy. I’d even settle for sharing a Juno award. 😄

    Whenever i hear any of her songs, i am reminded of those ASMR videos on YouTube of people whisper reading and tapping on the book. But whatever works, baby!

    In case anyone hasn’t seen the original JCS movie... (spoiler alert: it’s the best ever)

  • She had me at that Martin Rev-ish rhythm and bassline on Bad Guy

  • @haulin_notes said:
    I’m slightly disappointed... I don’t see any secrets here that will help me win a Grammy. I’d even settle for sharing a Juno award. 😄

    Whenever i hear any of her songs, i am reminded of those ASMR videos on YouTube of people whisper reading and tapping on the book. But whatever works, baby!

    In case anyone hasn’t seen the original JCS movie... (spoiler alert: it’s the best ever)

    It is truly batshit crazy.

  • You want dark stuff from Billie? You got it!

  • I’m getting Fiona Apple vibes which is cool. I like gloom with a bit of snark.

  • Me and my significant other both like her tunes a lot and we’re both a fair way from the target generation. It’s not dark like dark music I grew up with, but pretty intelligent / , and expressive of that age group’s dilemmas. Worked in pop music quite a lot so used to listening to it I guess but I don’t tend to listen out of work, but I often choose to listen to her...

  • edited January 2020

    Billie’s voice just doesn’t excite me. The production is good, everything is well put together. It is just I don’t feel the ‘motion’ in her voice. The whole whisper then non careless ‘rhyming’ and then the final power voice and repeat. guess it’s just not my style.

  • @Approach said:
    I’m getting Fiona Apple vibes which is cool. I like gloom with a bit of snark.

    Oh yah, totally.

  • snark and dark

  • edited January 2020

    @jaijai said:
    Billie’s voice just doesn’t excite me. The production is good, everything is well put together. It is just I don’t feel the ‘motion’ in her voice. The whole whisper then non careless ‘rhyming’ and then the final power voice and repeat. guess it’s just not my style.

    Yah this is the part that really makes it feel like an insurance commercial to me. One of the compilation vids I skipped through even had a Ukulele in it. (Maybe the lyrics on that one were self aware and ironic making fun of that shtick? ) A product of it's time I guess.

  • when it comes to Billie the subject matter is surreal so there isn't really an appropriate way to make proper conveyances of conviction, to me it just kinda sounds like something that shouldn't exist.

  • She’s 14 or something, right? What do you people want from a girl writing tunes in her bedroom?

    FFS

    I just listened to some of her stuff for the first time right now in the car with my 14 year old. if you aren’t 14 yr old right now then maybe you should think back to when you were.

    What music were you writing?

  • edited January 2020

    @richardyot Nicely done.

  • edited January 2020

    I’m amazed at how many people here (who are all to varying degrees involved in making music) have not heard her music.

    Not judging, just amazed that more attention isn’t being paid to, well, music. I guess it’s all relative.

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