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So, about this coronavirus...
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Yeah I think the only positive from these pandemics is that they demonstrate how closely connected and fragile our system is and reaffirms you can’t isolate countries from each other.
It’s obviously concerning but to put it into perspective, how often do you get the flu? I get some kind of cold usually most years
but full Flu virus, I can’t remember the last time, many years ago. So I think being more cautious is a good idea but your likelihood of getting it is still slim, since Flu viruses are around all the time.
Our immune system has a knowledge of the flu virus to a certain degree, even though flu mutates over time, this emerging virus less so.
How about we all catch it and share our experiences here?
Thank the Gorns that Pence is in charge here. I can now rest easier.
I'm still laughing about Cheeto Mussolini! That's the funniest thing I've read all week! HAHAHAHAHA
Just had a hand washing demonstration on the BBC news, and footage of a ‘testing centre’ - nurse with part of a bin liner over her shoulders, gloves and masks, round the back of a health centre, by the bins, giving a swab to a woman in a car.
Official advice - if you think you have the virus, stay at home. We’re in safe hands here.
However in Tesco’s earlier I watched a young woman do a full open sneeze in the veg aisle, snot going everywhere.
The UK is filled with idiots, we’re FCUK’D.
Oh and just heard apparently some people who fought off the disease are testing positive again.
Yeah, me too. Um .... ugh. Good luck over there.
Bin liners, they’ll be a rush on the sale of those soon
So advice is wash your hands near constantly throughout the day (then inadvertently cover yourself in virus via your mobile device
)
Some conclusions seem to be so far (Which could change because it’s a new virus) that so far covid-19 is more contagious (airborne for longer) but Flu is more dangerous to high risk groups, mortality rates can’t be accurate with covid until the spread is much higher and more accurate data. So containing it is important but statistics seem to show 61000 people died from Flu in US in 2018. So all types of Flu are pretty bad, we just know less about this one and there’s no vaccine yet.
So how's the best way to use it, do I just stuff my head inside and wrap it around my neck?
The bit I'm puzzled about (rumors versus truth etc) is re-infection. Seems a bit underhanded, not to say unfair. If you've had it, but can get it again, then the game is really afoot...
That would make you totally immune to anything except decomposition
Given the average age on the audiobus forum .......
Yeah good point. Stock up n’ lock up it is.
Just came back with the first lot!
Yeah good point. Stock up n’ lock up it is!
We’ll be dropping like flies on here. I’m off to wash my hands again.
Nail brush is a no no apparently
Same, the bint at Morrison’s check out sneezing into her brexit riddled mitts when handling my products. A bottle of sanitizer right next to her.
The bleak will inherit the earth ;-)
Don’t worry little englanders. Boris will save us ;/)
New band name alert:
The Brexit Riddled Mitts
We Could not possibly have a worse government, at a worse time for this virus to hit.
Johnson acting like an idiotic thug and saying today the UK will walk away from EU talks and therefore trade deals if it doesn't get its own way. Well....derrrrr....who's that going to hurt most then? Self-harm Brexit headbanging at its very worst.
Two weeks of flooding affecting large parts of the UK (including our now, homeless cousin) with no sign of the PM. 'Flood defences are working well' he says, as 400 tonnes per second pummels across the temporary plastic barriers at Bridgenorth, next stop, Worcester - with our friends near the racecourse watching the levels rise nervously. The next storm due tomorrow.
And a cabinet in charge of everything who are basically, morons.
Btw, colds and the flu are unrelated viruses. A cold is not some sort of "unfull" Flu virus. You may know this, but I see people mention some variant of this often enough that I think it is worth keeping in mind. A cold isn't mild flu any more than it is mild chicken pox.
The reason people in developed countries don't get the flu often is thanks to vaccination. Even if you don't get vaccinated, enough people get vaccinated that it reduces the transmission rate and severity of outbreaks significantly -- to such a large degree that a lot of people don't get the flu and as a result forget how horrible the flu is and how unlike a cold the flu is.
Wash your hands often folks -- and don't touch your mouth, eyes or ears unless you have just washed your hands.
Yes of course I know that
I’m comparing it in relation to how contagious they both are. But it’s also a misconception to say that everyone who has Flu has the same severity of symptoms.
What’s he doing, is that the start of the ‘Barrrr, Boris’ movement?
I think this focus on killing old people does not address many of the issues which effect how humans are changing our planet. Businesses and consumers frequently try to avoid paying the full cost of the products they sell and use. This can result in trying to avoid dealing with the effects of pollution due to how products are made, sold, used, and disposed of once they’re not wanted any more. It might be more effective to focus on developing solutions for these types of challenges rather than simply throwing our hands up and hoping a bunch of old people dying in a pandemic will be our way out.
Letting it rip through isn’t a great solution either as more people are infected, the more likely the virus will mutate and may become more virulent. It’s not so easy to isolate the vulnerable as they rely on and are interspersed with the less vulnerable. At this point it’s not even clear what the virus is capable of so how can we know who’s vulnerable? Hospital are notorious for developing resistant pathogens so it’s much better to not get sick in the first place and not have to go to a hospital if at all possible.
I don't think I implied that everyone that gets the flu has the same severity of symptoms. My point is that regardless of severity, flu and cold symptoms are largely different. Before vaccines were good, people were more aware of the symptom differences because they experienced them often enough to be aware. I myself had forgotten until about 15 years ago when I came down with the flu for the first time since I was 10 (30 years prior). It was a degree of awful I don't ever want to repeat. That was the last time I skipped getting a flu shot.
Re: severity of symptoms, I know that full well. Two years ago, I caught the flu but experienced less severe symptoms than most that caught it -- because I had been vaccinated. My fever only went to 102.5F and the joint pain pain and extreme fatigue went away after 2 or three days -- in comparison to the 7 to 10 days and higher fever that the two people I knew who were unvaccinated experienced.
One of the labs testing the virus to finding a cure is 90% certain it came from a gathering and eating bats.
Bats are not the villains here anymore than chickens or pigs are which affect us regularly. The viruses get transmitted from close contact, mutations, and from our bodies being unfamiliar with them.
The point of “beating” wasn’t to answer or hold people accountable with violence, so it was poor wording in my part. I should have said keep repeating the message till they get it.
I STILL think that regardless of the carbon footprint the more we encroach into ecosystems the more likely we’re invite NOVEL viruses. So parts of my points stand.
Government should mitigate people outstripping and over stripping resources, and individuals have a responsibility as well.
We will never eliminate new viral occurrences, but none of this as a source is a complete mystery.
"One of the labs testing the virus to finding a cure is 90% certain it came from a gathering and eating bats."
This is patently untrue. It's a bullshit xenophobic trope passed along by garbage media like The Daily Mail and Russia Today. This article in Foreign Policy debunks this.
Let's try to rely on sources we can trust: The New York Times, the BBC, the WHO*, NPR, Johns Hopkins University, Stamford University.
*(At least before Keith Moon died.)
Mentioning the BBC and trust together made me spit out my coffee and laugh
Yeah - SCREW that Kenny Jones guy. And Zak Starkey.... who does he think he is, rock royalty or something? Sheesh - I blame THOSE guys for this whole Coronavirus mess.