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Perhaps the Deep pharma conspiracy discussion should be moved to the Covid-19 rant thread rather than here?
What the guy in the video is saying makes sense to me - artificially lowering the temperature by using paracetamol etc interferes with the process of your body fighting viral or bacterial infections - he seems to have demonstrated this quite clearly.
Is he correct? If he is why are so many agencies telling us to take paracetamol?
What is the actual benefit of taking paracetamol to reduce your temperature if you have a fever? Clearly it may help if you are in any other associated pain, but it seems that enduring the pain will be of benefit if it prevents the ingestion of anti pyrexials?
What is the downside of not taking paracetamol?
The guy in the video is saying it is counter productive. You are saying he is wrong?
For those in the u.s. paracetamol is what we call acetaminophen
btw, the issue of ibuprofen and coronovirus is NOT related to any generic issue related to lower fevers. It should be kept in mind that this is a provisional finding. Since there isn't a good reason to take ibuprofen rather than acetaminophen for most (but not all people: please folks talk to your actual doctor), they are suggesting that one should err on the side of caution and take acetaminophen which makes total sense to me.
As far as I know, the WHO has not issued anything formal about this. If someone has found something official, please post. I found a summary of a press conference where a WHO doc shared the current finding that ibuprofen may cause some problems -- particularly for people with lung problems.
Dr John on a prior video mentions that in China it's illegal to take a fever reducing drug and get on an airplane prohibiting detection and spreading the virus.
I’m hoping that this is positive, and informative for others. I have found the whole discussion helpful.
Having thought about it my sense is that I would perhaps monitor my temperature and start on the anti-pyrexials if I go above something like 39c /102f.
Managing the upper bound seems reasonable to avoid convulsions and loss of consciousness when you're
also struggling to maintain O2 levels. I think we're going to see more information for home management as a public measure to keep people out of hospitals, clinics and public facilities to be housed without hope of assistance. There are stories from Italy of patients just parked aside since they are have a lower probability of survival.
It looks like the Non-Steriodal Anti-inflammatory drugs are being discouraged by French authorities:
Aspirin, ibuprofen, Advil are mentioned.
Paracetamol/acetamenaphen, Tylenol could be used to limit fevers? You doctor will have an opinion on one side or the other of this decision. The pandemic will provide data to make this clear. The publishing and sharing of these stats are helpful for fine tuning models and predict outcomes and make recommendations. If you can measure something accurately you're in a better position to manage it.
No data? No clues. I like I'll start calling the clueless datum-free. Hopefully they will just hear they are "free on this date (date - um - free) to be themselves and not deflate the tire on my unicycle.
Just one of the complications of Covid-19 is death but it's the one that generates the most panic.
Only the dead are eligible for refunds for bad advice but not their relatives.
A potential medical treatment protocol:
I'm sure many here thought of this and contacted the "developer" directly for this fix to be added with an update. Does this advice show up in this thread? Treat the sick with the blood of the recovered?
I wouldn’t always listen to anyone without looking for the evidence of what they are saying. I don’t see the WHO as being an infallible resource for reliable advice. As far as I know it’s reputation is below expectation.
You have to place some trust in something external, no matter that there may be flaws, otherwise all you’ve got is yourself. The WHO are what they say they are in the name, and I think just because it’s recently been easy for some to criticise and besmirch the character of the organisation, one shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
+yes
The only positive thing is that the pollution of the environment seems to gets a fresh breath.
There you see how much we destroy everything.
Maybe the virus is the immune system of the earth and we are the virus.
Both myself and my boy are doing fine, first signs we both had were sore dry throats and a cough but not so much persistent, more sporadic in fits, then aches in bones and lethargy, this wipes you out for a couple of days, I’m still feeling drained but gradually feeling better, my chest still hurts, this may be from coughing, all throughout neither of us have had a high temperature. Neither of us have had the test for the virus, just told to self isolate. Hope this is of help to others. Thanks to all for well wishes too. Best wishes to all in these times of trouble.
Good to hear, think the mildness of it for a lot of people is catching people out, not sure myself if me and my partner have it, or if we’re just run down, plan to stay in for 2 weeks just incase, as no testing to see.
Yes the lack of testing is crazy, because anyone who is over the infection and not infectious, has probably some immunity and would be in a good place to help others out.
Yeah, we've had incredibly mild symptoms (like so mild we're in doubt) but we're staying in, loads of olds round here and would hate to be part of the problem...
Anyone seen this video?
Interesting to hear a different perspective
That is the dilemma, to do the food parcel run or not risk it just incase, knowing my luck I’ll wait two weeks, think I’m clear, good about my deliveries and check-ups, then actually come down with it, because I was just run down.
Perhaps 1918 was hype too
Hoping they ready the test that can determine if you’ve had the virus soon, that will be a big help. Take care of yourselves anyway, all the best.
Appreciated man and right back at ya🖖
Yes, a global conspiracy to finish off what WW1 didn't quite manage to do. 🙄
(edit) the rolleyes isn't aimed at you @knewspeak (just in case it's not clear).
I know
It’s fucked up... i don’t know. We will see. But I find his arguments interesting though
It was one of the first videos or opinions I have heard in this direction.
What ever, stay safe and take care. Being sick sucks