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I don’t know if this has been mentioned previously. I was wondering if there might be any benefits in the use of steam inhalation if the symptoms of the virus are mild/moderate to get some moisture into the lungs to maybe help loosen off some of the gunk. I am also thinking that staying well hydrated has got to help though I have hardly heard this on the news etc?
And just in case anyone missed it- the use of anti-inflammatory medication recommended by the UK Government has been called into serious question, it apparently may even be counter productive.
The Rogan podcast talked about sauna and the answer was unfortunately 'No'
While the video dispels the myth that being in a sauna would help kill off the virus, the steam inhalation you talk about might relieve some of the symptoms to a small degree. I have yet to find anything that states that the inhalation would be negative. Being in a sauna with other people is a definite risk though due to proximity and possibly heightened transmittance values. Best advice is continue to seek the best medical advice from current professional staff as you can, but eventually you have to make some choices yourself.
The anti-inflammatory evidence seems a bit weak at the moment, but it’s really not worth taking the risk, as their is little known benefits either as yet.
To be honest, as the evidence on all these factors is changing all the time, it’s probably best to seek any evidence you base any actions on from proper health sources if you can and even then, at the moment some of the advice will later change as even the ‘experts’ don’t know all the facts as yet. Like the medicinal approach has always been, much of best evidence is later shown to be incorrect and change - in other words it’s guess work based on the best evidence found at any particular time.
When I did my nurses training, I was initially quite surprised how little we really know and how much changes in a short period of time. People throw around the word ‘fact’ like it’s some super sure way forward - when really they mean ‘opinion based on the best currently available evidence’.
I was thinking more along the lines of the home option as opposed to a sauna. Surely staying well hydrated is a going to be beneficial?
What about sugar? I was reading that low glucose in the body can be of benefit in helping to fight a virus though again opinions seem to vary
UK NHS are advising keeping well hydrated. Not sure about sugar, apart from Diabetes is one of the risk groups.
But not form the UK. That HAS to be an error, rigt> @robosardine said:
The common thread in everything I've read is hydration. Do it more than you can be bothered with or bear.
Edit, wrong place.
I came across this adaptation of one of CS Lewis’ writings about the threat of Atomic oblivion last century, and appreciated the sentiment. The idea being, we’re all slated to die at some point, the majority of us unpleasantly, so best enjoy life, sensibly, but not cowering in fear.
Just a thought (albeit from one who believes death is more like graduation day than the end of life. Ymmv )
-peace
Excellent and apt and absolutely.
Good one @AudioGus. Very effective illustration. 👍
You guys and your science
Science?
Ohhh! I get it. So then ... Bram Bos isn’t the source of the Covid-19 spread? Good to know. That’s kind of a relief, actually.
Nice. Where did you get that from?
I’m on it, guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid's_Tale
I had heard quite often there are 65,000 ventilators in the US. Tonight I heard 160,000. Better but still far fewer than will be needed.
Will you play as the sexy Doctor or the narcissistic business man?
Looks like someone made it out of these cool simulations...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
Also...
True.
Based on the advice of Dr. John Campbell
Ibuprofen reduces fever temperatures.
That could be a bad idea for the systems anti-viral defenses.
I was just watching a video showing that having a fever is essential to allow the body to fight a virus or bacterial infection. Fever is the essential anti-virus immune system trigger. The war on the personal level is fought internally by your cells, virus cells, interferons,
Players on the field:
"Obligate Intracellular Paracites - the Viral Horde"
Virus Cells
Viral proteins (cell-to-cell transmission vehicles)
Bacteria
"Home Team" Coach = Hypothalamus
Leucocytes (white cells)
Pyrogens Cytokines
Interferons (and their receptors on cells)
Anti-viral enzymes (to reduce protein synthesis)
Antibodies
Phagocytes
Are you saying it is best to avoid paracetamol completely then if you have a fever? The National Health Service in the UK are saying you should take it?
@robosardine Here’s an article from health experts on the topic. Bottom line, consult with your doctor.
Sorry. I took lousy notes and have edited my comment to focus on ibuprofen as not be recommended.
Sorry. I suspect that's for pain mediation for the virus victim. ibuprofen is being called out
as a fever inhibitor and not a good practice to let the antibodies wage their cellular battles.
I also added a video for more medical details for the layman.
The Campbell video is informative. Then why so many meds to reduce fever? Deep pharma conspiracy!
I'm sure there are consequences to high fevers as well so like most biological processes...
So, it's complicated.
Scientists will learn a lot from this real world pandemic event to help develop better forecasting for essential resources and capacities and protocols. Those that survive will benefit from the lessons learned.
Maybe we'll see more acceptance of supporting scientific research, medical readiness organizations and top down coordination and intra-country strategic alignments.
(This is the positive thread so I'll stop here).