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OT: Vent About Global Pandemic Management *HERE*

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  • well that ain't mellotron money, guess the mellotron will have to wait

  • Looks like it's time for Andrew Yang to get back in the Race, since financially speaking he's the president now anyway

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    @kobamoto said:
    Looks like it's time for Andrew Yang to get back in the Race, since financially speaking he's the president now anyway

    A few weeks is a damn long time in politics....I wonder if Uncle Joe is regretting blurting out that his VEEP would be a woman? Nothing wrong with the idea, but you've made your field an awful lot smaller at a volatile time when when others might have pushed themselves positively into the national consciousness all of a sudden.... (coughcuomocough)...

  • We need a woman ascendant to the presidency, IMO. perhaps the only way one will get elected. Warren works for me and could draw in Bernie’s crowd.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    FWIW, many people don't realize that Joe Biden has a very bad stutter and has worked hard since he was a kid to overcome it. A lot of the brain-freezes people talk about and see (often in videos edited to emphasize them) are the result of his trying not to stutter.

    Dude, call it what you want, but I’ve been following his career for 25 years and this is a totally new thing. Watch videos of him 15 years ago and then tell me this is a lifetime problem. The man can’t even remember his talking points in a softball interview. He rambles giving a speech. He forgets the question he was asked. It’s awful.

    Also where the hell was he for a week? Baffling.

  • Warren has pretty Limited working class appeal. Maybe AOC in a few years will be the first female president. She certainly has the charisma.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @richardyot said:
    But of course it looks like Biden, who is having on-camera brain freezes, is going to be his opponent, so there is that...

    FWIW, many people don't realize that Joe Biden has a very bad stutter and has worked hard since he was a kid to overcome it. A lot of the brain-freezes people talk about and see (often in videos edited to emphasize them) are the result of his trying not to stutter.

    That’s going to be pretty insulting to people with actual stutters. We all know what’s going on with Joe.

  • @InfoCheck said:
    MAGA: Make America Great Again

    Exactly what I asked for.You relly took your time putting this list together. It always helps to understand how someone else views the world.

    IMHO, Covid-19 is probably this President's Katrina/Iraq War that shows that slogans are not enough.

    "Mission Accomplished" after the first few weeks after invading Iraq.

    It actually takes management skills and not just salesmanship which has this approach
    call "Confidence Man" where you tell the mark what they want to hear while you take them for every penny you can.

    "You're doing a hell of a job, Brownie." President Bush thinking the FEMA Director when he fumbled the ball managing the Katrina relief.

    And Bush actually had some experience governing. Trump is making it up as he goes along.

  • @robertreynolds said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @richardyot said:
    But of course it looks like Biden, who is having on-camera brain freezes, is going to be his opponent, so there is that...

    FWIW, many people don't realize that Joe Biden has a very bad stutter and has worked hard since he was a kid to overcome it. A lot of the brain-freezes people talk about and see (often in videos edited to emphasize them) are the result of his trying not to stutter.

    That’s going to be pretty insulting to people with actual stutters. We all know what’s going on with Joe.

    Here’s an article about the brain aneurism Biden suffered. It would explain his current inability to communicate competently. He’s clearly not up to the task of even running for office and the decision to choose him as the presumptive Democratic nominee is baffling.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @kobamoto said:
    Looks like it's time for Andrew Yang to get back in the Race, since financially speaking he's the president now anyway

    A few weeks is a damn long time in politics....I wonder if Uncle Joe is regretting blurting out that his VEEP would be a woman? Nothing wrong with the idea, but you've made your field an awful lot smaller at a volatile time when when others might have pushed themselves positively into the national consciousness all of a sudden.... (coughcuomocough)...

    yeah he shouldn't have said that but at the same time I want warren personally, she's the farthest thing from stupid on the panel imho and has the best chance of learning fast on the job which is gonna be very important for the new world that trump has created for the next president to exist in... I like all of the others as well but find them a bit one dimensional.

    unfortunately she's out of the race and even more unfortunately like the lineman suggest we will probably never have a woman president in this country unless she looks exactly like Ronald Reagan, and by exactly I mean in a cowboy hat and on a freakin horse.

  • That is really very sad. My acupuncturist (a lovely lady from China) tells me 'you have peaceful pulse' but it has a gag reflex at the slightest sight of Lindsey Graham.

  • @robertreynolds said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @richardyot said:
    But of course it looks like Biden, who is having on-camera brain freezes, is going to be his opponent, so there is that...

    FWIW, many people don't realize that Joe Biden has a very bad stutter and has worked hard since he was a kid to overcome it. A lot of the brain-freezes people talk about and see (often in videos edited to emphasize them) are the result of his trying not to stutter.

    That’s going to be pretty insulting to people with actual stutters. We all know what’s going on with Joe.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

  • You never disappoint @robertreynolds.

  • @LinearLineman :)

    the great stupidity - i hear you - some fools believe dropping bombs stop wars!

    how is it that our money rewards such stupidity?

    @u0421793 , for me , authority = the write to right my story

    it seems we're in a time of waiting - could be the warlords come attack, could be, whilst we're all inside, they just take off and leave ? what then ;?))

    but i agree, best for now to go with the most heard story, do as we are being told ...

    as @vitocorleone123 says, " We should probably operate as if those numbers accurately represent reality, as that’d be prudent."

    @Sequencer1 @kobamoto "Re Mitt Romney/Obamacare, same thing happened with Global Warming, it switched sides a bunch of times." almost like we're being juggled ;)

  • nah it's not us that's being juggled they're just juggling what people call them, it's the same people just changing clothes like they did back in the late sixties and started calling themselves republicans instead of democrats, and now they swear they're the party of Lincoln though I've yet to see a pic of Lincoln flying their flag.... they used to be Called the Wallace crowd but today we call them HYDRA!!! lol

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  • Looks like chloroquine might have some potential:

    https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=229156

    Good news for patients if so. It's currently being trialled in France and in New York.

    It would be very unwise to object to this on partisan grounds, if it does prove to be effective then Trump will be vindicated, but so what? If it saves lives then it saves lives.

    Having an effective treatment doesn't mean that social distancing should stop, but it might mean fewer people die.

  • @richardyot said:
    Looks like chloroquine might have some potential:

    https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=229156

    We took chloroquine when we went out to live in Papua New Guinea, but it tastes absolutely fucking vile, so I had to bury mine in a blob of margarine to swallow it each time. After a while we discovered that all the other expats out there had switched to Daraprim long ago, so we went over to that, no intensely bitter taste (and smaller).

  • @u0421793 said:

    @richardyot said:
    Looks like chloroquine might have some potential:

    https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=229156

    We took chloroquine when we went out to live in Papua New Guinea, but it tastes absolutely fucking vile, so I had to bury mine in a blob of margarine to swallow it each time. After a while we discovered that all the other expats out there had switched to Daraprim long ago, so we went over to that, no intensely bitter taste (and smaller).

    I took it as a malaria prevention drug when I went to Madagascar 20 years ago, I had to stop though because it gave me hideous nightmares. I decided I would rather get malaria.

  • @richardyot said:
    Looks like chloroquine might have some potential:

    https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=229156

    Good news for patients if so. It's currently being trialled in France and in New York.

    It would be very unwise to object to this on partisan grounds, if it does prove to be effective then Trump will be vindicated, but so what? If it saves lives then it saves lives.

    Having an effective treatment doesn't mean that social distancing should stop, but it might mean fewer people die.

    Pretty cool of you to point that out. I know you’re no fan.

  • @robertreynolds said:

    @richardyot said:
    Looks like chloroquine might have some potential:

    https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=229156

    Good news for patients if so. It's currently being trialled in France and in New York.

    It would be very unwise to object to this on partisan grounds, if it does prove to be effective then Trump will be vindicated, but so what? If it saves lives then it saves lives.

    Having an effective treatment doesn't mean that social distancing should stop, but it might mean fewer people die.

    Pretty cool of you to point that out. I know you’re no fan.

    Yeah - I think Trump got lucky on that one :)

    I've never been on board with the "Trump is a Nazi" hysteria, I just thought he was a corrupt Berlusconi type. However his response to the pandemic was starting to look a bit like a Shakesperian tragedy, the one where the corrupt king is taken down by his own hubris.

    But this chloroquine thing might well turn out to be a good call, so maybe he is some genius playing 5D chess with us after all😆

  • Guys, this is wrong. MedicineNet is not a reputable source. This is also days old and is refuted by many sources, including this from that notable liberal media outlet Forbes. /s

    @robertreynolds You're trying to find any defense of your guy and it's dangerous.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    Guys, this is wrong. MedicineNet is not a reputable source. This is also days old and is refuted by many sources, including this from that notable liberal media outlet Forbes. /s

    It certainly didn’t look like a verifiable source, but, upon looking to see if they’d cited their sources, they had: doi: 10.1093/cid/ciaa237 which leads to https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa237/5801998 and that’s the important thing – follow the citations back to their sources. If you can’t, it’s not credible information.

  • The MedicineNet story was based on a single doctor who tested 24 people and posted his results on YouTube.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    The MedicineNet story was based on a single doctor who tested 24 people and posted his results on YouTube.

    The doctor is apparently an expert virologist though, and the results were promising.

    Some people are taking issue with the Forbes article:

    To be clear - this is well outside my area of expertise, but I prefer to keep an open mind. If chloroquine works to treat the virus it's a win for humanity. Let's not dismiss something just because someone on the "other side" promoted it.

  • And BTW Nassim Taleb has been warning of the danger posed by the virus since January, and has been very critical of the response.

  • Fair point; he's a great source.

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    @u0421793 said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Guys, this is wrong. MedicineNet is not a reputable source. This is also days old and is refuted by many sources, including this from that notable liberal media outlet Forbes. /s

    It certainly didn’t look like a verifiable source, but, upon looking to see if they’d cited their sources, they had: doi: 10.1093/cid/ciaa237 which leads to https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa237/5801998 and that’s the important thing – follow the citations back to their sources. If you can’t, it’s not credible information.

    Also, the first article is a journalistic mishmash but overall expresses a tone of caution due to the need to do further and broader trials (because almost every source they cite does that too). It doesn’t express the idea that this is going to solve everything. The cited source I linked to is only a trial to do with optimum dosing, not whether the thing itself is the correct direction to go in.

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