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  • UK Government are Nazi’s by neglect, care homes are the new concentration camps.

  • @knewspeak said:
    UK Government are Nazi’s by neglect, care homes are the new concentration camps.

    Let's not confuse incompetence with the intentional mobilization of a country to exterminate entire populations. (As an fyi, to people touched by the genocide, it is kind of infuriating when people use these Nazi and concentration camp in ways that that sort of trivialize the enormous evil that was Nazism).

  • So, the Trump admin has reassigned a key government medical researcher because he was committed to using scientifically vetted approaches to dealing with the pandemic:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1253064793818357765.html

    Also, the mayor of Las Vegas has offered the city as an experiment in what happens if you don't try to control outbreaks with lockdowns.

    I kid you not.

  • edited April 2020

    @espiegel123 said:

    @knewspeak said:
    UK Government are Nazi’s by neglect, care homes are the new concentration camps.

    Let's not confuse incompetence with the intentional mobilization of a country to exterminate entire populations. (As an fyi, to people touched by the genocide, it is kind of infuriating when people use these Nazi and concentration camp in ways that that sort of trivialize the enormous evil that was Nazism).

    But it is intentional. The government deliberately took the decision not to join the EU safety and testing equipment procurement programme and then lied about it. 100 NHS staff have died, many due to lack of safety equipment.

    Johnson put the UK on a course for a disastrous ‘herd’ immunity plan despite all experts warning it’d lead to unnecessary deaths. It was only stopped because France threatened the UK with action.

    The UK delayed the shutdown, allowed sporting events to take place, and didn’t bother to quarantine visitors from abroad.

    The government ignored advice from the trial 4 years ago, warning lack of equipment would lead to deaths.

    Johnson didn’t bother to turn up to the first 5 emergency Cobra meetings.

    Etc., etc., etc.

    A catalogue of wilful negligence, that many in the UK say should now face criminal charges - Philip Pullman being the latest.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @knewspeak said:
    UK Government are Nazi’s by neglect, care homes are the new concentration camps.

    Let's not confuse incompetence with the intentional mobilization of a country to exterminate entire populations. (As an fyi, to people touched by the genocide, it is kind of infuriating when people use these Nazi and concentration camp in ways that that sort of trivialize the enormous evil that was Nazism).

    But it is intentional. The government deliberately took the decision not to join the EU safety and testing equipment procurement programme and then lied about it. 100 NHS staff have died, many due to lack of safety equipment.

    Johnson put the UK on a course for a disastrous ‘herd’ immunity plan despite all experts warning it’d lead to unnecessary deaths. It was only stopped because France threatened the UK with action.

    The UK delayed the shutdown, allowed sporting events to take place, and didn’t bother to quarantine visitors from abroad.

    The government ignored advice from the trial 4 years ago, warning lack of equipment would lead to deaths.

    Johnson didn’t bother to turn up to the first 5 emergency Cobra meetings.

    Etc., etc., etc.

    A catalogue of wilful negligence, that many in the UK say should now face criminal charges - Philip Pullman being the latest.

    I don't disagree that there has been criminal negligence on the part of some in the U.K. and U.S. governments -- sure very very bad -- terrible even -- and it is still a far cry from genocide.

  • edited April 2020

    @espiegel123 said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @knewspeak said:
    UK Government are Nazi’s by neglect, care homes are the new concentration camps.

    Let's not confuse incompetence with the intentional mobilization of a country to exterminate entire populations. (As an fyi, to people touched by the genocide, it is kind of infuriating when people use these Nazi and concentration camp in ways that that sort of trivialize the enormous evil that was Nazism).

    But it is intentional. The government deliberately took the decision not to join the EU safety and testing equipment procurement programme and then lied about it. 100 NHS staff have died, many due to lack of safety equipment.

    Johnson put the UK on a course for a disastrous ‘herd’ immunity plan despite all experts warning it’d lead to unnecessary deaths. It was only stopped because France threatened the UK with action.

    The UK delayed the shutdown, allowed sporting events to take place, and didn’t bother to quarantine visitors from abroad.

    The government ignored advice from the trial 4 years ago, warning lack of equipment would lead to deaths.

    Johnson didn’t bother to turn up to the first 5 emergency Cobra meetings.

    Etc., etc., etc.

    A catalogue of wilful negligence, that many in the UK say should now face criminal charges - Philip Pullman being the latest.

    I don't disagree that there has been criminal negligence on the part of some in the U.K. and U.S. governments -- sure very very bad -- terrible even -- and it is still a far cry from genocide.

    Look up the definition. Herd immunity with no available vaccine, would sacrifice the lives of tens - if not hundreds of thousands of people from vulnerable groups. The old, the sick, the poor. And it seems BAME people are more vulnerable too.

    It’s one for the lawyers once, if, we get a handle on this crisis. At the very least I’d expect someone to put forward a corporate manslaughter claim.

    At some point someone is going to put some figures on the number of unnecessary deaths that have been caused by the shocking lack of care, and negligence, of our government. And relatives of loved ones lost will want answers.

  • edited April 2020

    @espiegel123 said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @knewspeak said:
    UK Government are Nazi’s by neglect, care homes are the new concentration camps.

    Let's not confuse incompetence with the intentional mobilization of a country to exterminate entire populations. (As an fyi, to people touched by the genocide, it is kind of infuriating when people use these Nazi and concentration camp in ways that that sort of trivialize the enormous evil that was Nazism).

    But it is intentional. The government deliberately took the decision not to join the EU safety and testing equipment procurement programme and then lied about it. 100 NHS staff have died, many due to lack of safety equipment.

    Johnson put the UK on a course for a disastrous ‘herd’ immunity plan despite all experts warning it’d lead to unnecessary deaths. It was only stopped because France threatened the UK with action.

    The UK delayed the shutdown, allowed sporting events to take place, and didn’t bother to quarantine visitors from abroad.

    The government ignored advice from the trial 4 years ago, warning lack of equipment would lead to deaths.

    Johnson didn’t bother to turn up to the first 5 emergency Cobra meetings.

    Etc., etc., etc.

    A catalogue of wilful negligence, that many in the UK say should now face criminal charges - Philip Pullman being the latest.

    I don't disagree that there has been criminal negligence on the part of some in the U.K. and U.S. governments -- sure very very bad -- terrible even -- and it is still a far cry from genocide.

    what do the Trump administration and Boko Haram have in common?

    not genocide but something that share's the same spirit, and comes from the same place.

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    will somebody just go ahead and treat this guy like he was Barack Obama already

    lol It just occurred to me, our dear president my have already won a Guinness book world record in Lying.

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    Imagine you're one of the last 500 human beings and you're flying In space when up ahead is a meteor shower/ minefield and you all have to vote on some one to pilot the ship through to the other side..... and some how in this bazaar alternative fact based Universe Donald Trump managed to be one of the last 500 Humans on the ship....

    would you

    A. vote for Donald Trump to pilot the ship through the meteor shower
    B. vote for somebody who actually knows how to pilot a spaceship
    c. eject yourself into space for even thinking of voting for Donald Trump
    D. or not get on the ship in the first place once you find out that Trump and Co were on the flight.

    the following video clip is a visual aid to help you place yourself in the moment. There are allot of crazy things going on in the world today but think about it, what kind of mind state would you have to be in to vote for Donald Trump to Pilot the space ship.

  • Not to be unduly vindictive towards a nasty old man, but this is what came to mind as I read the choices above 😬

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    I wish he was a nasty old man, Archie Bunker was a nasty old man but Voting for Donald Trump Is like voting for Quark to hold the most powerful office in the land.

  • Not political, just funny:

  • Yeah, sorry, I’m far too kind

  • edited April 2020

    Scientific study: FOX - Watching Hannity more lethal than Carlson due to misinformation about the virus.

    https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/BFI_WP_202044.pdf

    I mean.... duh. Didn’t need 90 pages to tell me that FOX viewers are more ignorant and uninformed.

  • @kobamoto said:
    Imagine you're one of the last 500 human beings and you're flying In space when up ahead is a meteor shower/ minefield and you all have to vote on some one to pilot the ship through to the other side..... and some how in this bazaar alternative fact based Universe Donald Trump managed to be one of the last 500 Humans on the ship....

    would you

    A. vote for Donald Trump to pilot the ship through the meteor shower
    B. vote for somebody who actually knows how to pilot a spaceship
    c. eject yourself into space for even thinking of voting for Donald Trump
    D. or not get on the ship in the first place once you find out that Trump and Co were on the flight.

    the following video clip is a visual aid to help you place yourself in the moment. There are allot of crazy things going on in the world today but think about it, what kind of mind state would you have to be in to vote for Donald Trump to Pilot the space ship.

    Now where is that self-destruct button!

  • just sayin, if Jango fett aka coven-19 was chasing me through a meteor shower the last thing I would do is vote for Donald Trump to steer us safely through the field, voting for trump is like literally voting to put your life in danger

  • @kobamoto said:
    just sayin, if Jango fett aka coven-19 was chasing me through a meteor shower the last thing I would do is vote for Donald Trump to steer us safely through the field, voting for trump is like literally voting to put your life in danger

    What would happen if the sith lords had convinced you through mind tricks and spy’s inserted on your vessel, that donald was a secret jedi, on an under cover mission against the sith order. They even gave him knee high boots, a cape and a tiny light sabre for his little hands and in your desperation for salvation, you found the illusion, too sweet to resist.

    You showed him to the cockpit, then after the doors closed, he said you had pretty lips and grabbed you by the pussy, shocked and pulling back you wondered, is he really a jedi, does he know how to fly and why is he wearing a nappy, but before you could articulate the words, he shouted fake news.

  • edited April 2020

    to be honest, I'd have many questions on many levels :D

    I'm just thinking out loud right now though.... ' did this guy just get on television in front of the whole nation and tell a lie about what the doctor said, and then the doctor actually come right out and correct his lie while the president was standing right next to him, surely that didn't just happen...., who voted for this ijit?'

    sigh

  • Yeah tis all mind bending, how your thinking out loud scenario would pan out imo, is the doctor would have a conspiracy theory floated around about him by the evening, in all the usual places, involving a secret 2007 trip to the cayman islands, shoe in jeffery epstein, the clintons and a mysterious man with a limp.

    By the morning a few videos would be up on youtube, shared widely through facebook and whats app, with the trump faithful convinced the doctor was a deep state operative, sent to undermine trump.

  • True, I think each of his supporters should have to read the Martin Niemöller poem 3 times, out loud in the voting booth before they are allowed to cast a vote.

  • edited April 2020

    If there are indeed an infinite number of parallel universes then somehow we've ended up in the one where the president of the United States in his daily briefing suggests people ingesting or injecting themselves with disinfectants might cure them of the virus.
    If only those people in those parallel sane universes could see this one, they simply wouldn't believe its in the realm of infinite possibilities.

  • Wednesday’s Trumpmiliation...
    He calls Redfield, head of CDC to correct total “misquote” to Washington Post where he said the real danger is coming this fall and winter when flu and 19 come at once. Asked by reporter if his statement was inaccurate Redfield responds... “Totally accurate.” Strike Oonne!

    Then The Ttumpmeister calls On a Birx to corroborate his gut feeling that the virus will be little or nothing... Birx says “We don't know!” Steerike two!

    Finally Fauci gets up and says we gotta prepare for what’s coming this fall. Steerike Threeee! And the addled, obese, senior citizen who says every senior is being taken care of except him... is Ouuutt!

    I have to believe more and more people are talking to their doctors and using their common sense..
    And seeing the emperor for the nudist germophobe he is.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    Wednesday’s Trumpmiliation...

    Sure... but there's all this pent up anxiety about just getting back to a normal life.
    It's trivial to tap into that and ignore the consequences. We did it before and we'll do
    it again... and again. I don't see a way past it really. The realities of this ordeal are beyond
    comprehension.

    One local musical hero in his 70's has been to the hospital, put on respirators and in a coma for 3 weeks
    and should be out to convalesce at home this week. Roll the die. Live to roll again, Andy.

    We can only hope there's no double jeopardy with this virus. Who can predict the world in 5 years?

  • @LinearLineman said:
    Wednesday’s Trumpmiliation...
    He calls Redfield, head of CDC to correct total “misquote” to Washington Post where he said the real danger is coming this fall and winter when flu and 19 come at once. Asked by reporter if his statement was inaccurate Redfield responds... “Totally accurate.” Strike Oonne!

    Then The Ttumpmeister calls On a Birx to corroborate his gut feeling that the virus will be little or nothing... Birx says “We don't know!” Steerike two!

    Finally Fauci gets up and says we gotta prepare for what’s coming this fall. Steerike Threeee! And the addled, obese, senior citizen who says every senior is being taken care of except him... is Ouuutt!

    I have to believe more and more people are talking to their doctors and using their common sense..
    And seeing the emperor for the nudist germophobe he is.

    totally normal for the President
    the weird thing is, he doesn't get fired for this.... the folks who put him where he is aren't stupid though, they are just consumed with hatred, they can't believe that Barack Obama and Eric holder did not take their guns, force them to eat arugula, and force them to accept other Americans as Americans.... they just can't accept that the very premise on which they exist is without merit so they invest their hatred into trump because they know he'll always find something to invest it into.

  • @McD, yeah and when the poor guy gets out what collateral damage will he endure for the rest of his days? Yes, it's a shitstorm no doubt about it. But that does not mean we should not take succor from the exposing of the transparent imbecility and personal greed of the man in charge. Birx, Redfield, Fauci, all on the spectrum of feigning loyalty to a troll to one degree or another, all have their limits...or as,I believe, E.E. Cummings poetically said, “there is some shit I will not eat“.

    “The realities of the ordeal are beyond our comprehension” you rightly say, but that means forces for
    positive change as well.

    Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff, said something like “never waste a crisis”. I could give a list of positives, including Trump’s more likely defeat cause he no longer has an economy or the “commie” Sanders to fuel his rallies, but you know them as well as I.

    Look, the experts now say 265,000,000 people are gonna starve. Holy Jesus! You say. What a catastrophe! But 120,000,000 were starving quietly all along. Did we let it disrupt our iOS follies?
    The air is clean and the stars are out in Delhi. Don’t you think this is a reminder of what we have lost before the “Invisible Enemy” came upon us?

    Sure, it’s more dangerous and fascist leaning than ever. But maybe better a forthright confrontation than the complacent materialism that was soporifically boiling us like lobsters in a slowly boiling pot. One more quote for agers like you and me, McD... Do not go gently into that good night...Dad.

  • nudist germophobe

    This is really putting me off my dinner and I've already eaten.

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