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espiegel123

@Artvarg said:

@Poppadocrock said:
I think you can do one or the other, or both with sEGments. Speaking of time and pitch.

I see that segments also supports appleloops 🤔
But I can only load one file per instance, or am I mistaken?
I‘ll experiment with my Beathawk template a bit more later tonight. Maybe I don’t really need anything else. Repitch would be awesome, but I think I can live without it.

Thanks for the sEGments tip re AppleLoops. Hopefully, the dev will add exporting as AppleLoops, too. I enjoy sEGments a lot.

gregsmith

@espiegel123 said:

@gregsmith said:

@Artvarg said:

@espiegel123 said:

@Artvarg said:
There seem to be a lot of eg pulse users here, so I try to put the questions from the other thread here.
For context: I want to get a similar workflow to launchpad but inside AUM. I‘m using LK and Beathawk which seems to be working as intended. On top I just found out about appleloops in BH (time stretch with host tempo change 💪🏼).
My questions:

• can EG Pulse handle appleloops like BH or maybe even better?
• How is the bpm detection and time stretching without appleloops? In the description it says it works on 4 bar loops. Does it work as expected? Why can it only be used with 4 bar loops? 🤔
• How is the pitch detection and shifting? Reliable? Should be helpful for that launchpad workflow.
• Is there anything else Pulse brings to the table to that particular workflow?

Pulse doesn’t preserve time when pitch-shifting. It doesn’t know about AppleLoops. It doesn’t automatically time-stretch loops when changing tempo from what I can tell. Also, it’s patterns are limited to one measure. I find it handy in some circumstances. BeatHawk is better for using AppleLoops.

Also, nothing on iOS does time-stretching or repitching without changing time as well as BM3 as far as I know.

Thanks, you saved me 9€. 😊

Pulse does proper time stretching and you can sync it to tempo, the implementation is just super clunky compared to segments. If I remember rightly to sync to tempo, you have to go in and edit the pad again, but not 100% sure.

The fact that you can slice in segments then go straight to pulse is too good to pass up IMO

As I said, it won’t automatically sync time stretching to the host tempo. Unless I am mistaken (and I could be), any time you change host tempo, you have to go and set the time for each pad that has a loop - unlike BeatMaker or BeatHawk where if you set a pad to be time synched it will automatically adjust when you change the tempo.

Has Pulse changed so that it will adjust if you change the tempo or do you still have to go into each pad after a tempo change and tell it the new tempo for the pad?

No I’m pretty sure you’re right

Edit: just checked and yes that’s still the way it works. Shame it can’t do what segments does.

ExAsperis99

@espiegel123 said:

@Intrepolicious said:

@JoyceRoadStudios said:

@Intrepolicious said:
Hmm it never occurred to me that I could use MDES on my guitar signal chain. @McD @SNystrom

I’m off tomorrow and will definitely be giving that a try!

Totally! There are certain filter/sat/fx apps that can be used with guitar all by themselves and without an amp sim, and they have no business being as good as they are in this way. In this concept they become sort of a preamp or loadbox, not unlike what PSA1000 does. Then you pair them with a proper IR and it’s quite amazing. I think the apps used have to be of the highest quality and fidelity. I love using some of the FAC Chorus presets plus an IR with a guitar, and that’s it. You can even play guitar with FAC Chorus standalone and get a sense of it, the “Fifthiver” preset is beguiling polyphonic goodness. @espiegel123 has mentioned that pairing only Saturn 2 with an IR can sound as good or better than “guitar amp sim”.

I wouldn’t completely shun proper guitar amp sims though. They do offer a certain recognizable realism to the guitar tone since they are optimized for guitars.

Now I’ll be able to use my Peavy Bandit (Red Stripe) “Trans-Tube” with MDES in the input chain before my BOSS GT1, and feel like I’m actually playing through a tube amp?

Can’t wait to experiment with this setup! Though I always have to wait until the family will “allow” me to do so. (They’re not always fans of my loudness when I fire up the guitar amps!) because it’s usually late in the evening when I get these chances...

This is one reason why I love this iOS platform for these “virtual guitar rig” stuff, in that I can play quietly for the most part with headphones.

If you are sending the output to an actual tube amp, a digital simulation of tubes in front of the actual tube amp may not improve things. The reason folks like the MDEs is it adds some “analog character”.

That is definitely not a tube amp!

reasOne

@gregsmith said:

@espiegel123 said:

@gregsmith said:

@Artvarg said:

@espiegel123 said:

@Artvarg said:
There seem to be a lot of eg pulse users here, so I try to put the questions from the other thread here.
For context: I want to get a similar workflow to launchpad but inside AUM. I‘m using LK and Beathawk which seems to be working as intended. On top I just found out about appleloops in BH (time stretch with host tempo change 💪🏼).
My questions:

• can EG Pulse handle appleloops like BH or maybe even better?
• How is the bpm detection and time stretching without appleloops? In the description it says it works on 4 bar loops. Does it work as expected? Why can it only be used with 4 bar loops? 🤔
• How is the pitch detection and shifting? Reliable? Should be helpful for that launchpad workflow.
• Is there anything else Pulse brings to the table to that particular workflow?

Pulse doesn’t preserve time when pitch-shifting. It doesn’t know about AppleLoops. It doesn’t automatically time-stretch loops when changing tempo from what I can tell. Also, it’s patterns are limited to one measure. I find it handy in some circumstances. BeatHawk is better for using AppleLoops.

Also, nothing on iOS does time-stretching or repitching without changing time as well as BM3 as far as I know.

Thanks, you saved me 9€. 😊

Pulse does proper time stretching and you can sync it to tempo, the implementation is just super clunky compared to segments. If I remember rightly to sync to tempo, you have to go in and edit the pad again, but not 100% sure.

The fact that you can slice in segments then go straight to pulse is too good to pass up IMO

As I said, it won’t automatically sync time stretching to the host tempo. Unless I am mistaken (and I could be), any time you change host tempo, you have to go and set the time for each pad that has a loop - unlike BeatMaker or BeatHawk where if you set a pad to be time synched it will automatically adjust when you change the tempo.

Has Pulse changed so that it will adjust if you change the tempo or do you still have to go into each pad after a tempo change and tell it the new tempo for the pad?

No I’m pretty sure you’re right

Edit: just checked and yes that’s still the way it works. Shame it can’t do what segments does.

i haven’t managed to get pulse to adapt in my workflow, but segments is quite great!

Poppadocrock

@Artvarg said:

@Poppadocrock said:
I think you can do one or the other, or both with sEGments. Speaking of time and pitch.

I see that segments also supports appleloops 🤔
But I can only load one file per instance, or am I mistaken?
I‘ll experiment with my Beathawk template a bit more later tonight. Maybe I don’t really need anything else. Repitch would be awesome, but I think I can live without it.

Yes it’s 1 file per instance, but it’s AUv3, so load up 2,3,4,5 of them. Also the file can be played on pads or keys, so if it’s a 1 shot use the keys. Yea if you are trying to combine samples you will need an audio editor, or a DAW. To put the audio files back to back.

mrufino1

@Crawlingwind said:
I looked at your link. Was going to try some, but they have dairy in them, and I don’t do dairy. Looks good though. And from NJ, my birth state.

@mrufino1 said:

@Crawlingwind said:
Best hot sauce in the world! 50% off for one more hour. Free shipping!
(I bought 8 bottles...)

https://www.yellowbirdfoods.com/

Nope, the best hot sauce in the world is on sale at hanksauce.com . 😂

Ah, I didn’t know they have dairy. Where are you from in NJ? I live by Giants stadium.

TimRussell

@Poppadocrock said:

@Artvarg said:

@Poppadocrock said:
I think you can do one or the other, or both with sEGments. Speaking of time and pitch.

I see that segments also supports appleloops 🤔
But I can only load one file per instance, or am I mistaken?
I‘ll experiment with my Beathawk template a bit more later tonight. Maybe I don’t really need anything else. Repitch would be awesome, but I think I can live without it.

Yes it’s 1 file per instance, but it’s AUv3, so load up 2,3,4,5 of them. Also the file can be played on pads or keys, so if it’s a 1 shot use the keys. Yea if you are trying to combine samples you will need an audio editor, or a DAW. To put the audio files back to back.

This is interesting. I’m not aware of any other way of using Apple Loops anywhere apart from inside GarageBand. Is sEGments the only way of doing this?

Krupa

@Poppadocrock said:
@Krupa Play with standalone. It took me about 5 mins to realize I had to have this. Held off for a couple weeks, waiting for possible BF discount. And to my surprise they actually took $2 off. So boom it was mine, all mine, bwwahhh haaah, haaa, haaa....lol

I think you’re talking about drum computer? I do have that and it’s ace, was wondering about sample reverse on EG pulse , nice one though

espiegel123

@TimRussell said:

@Poppadocrock said:

@Artvarg said:

@Poppadocrock said:
I think you can do one or the other, or both with sEGments. Speaking of time and pitch.

I see that segments also supports appleloops 🤔
But I can only load one file per instance, or am I mistaken?
I‘ll experiment with my Beathawk template a bit more later tonight. Maybe I don’t really need anything else. Repitch would be awesome, but I think I can live without it.

Yes it’s 1 file per instance, but it’s AUv3, so load up 2,3,4,5 of them. Also the file can be played on pads or keys, so if it’s a 1 shot use the keys. Yea if you are trying to combine samples you will need an audio editor, or a DAW. To put the audio files back to back.

This is interesting. I’m not aware of any other way of using Apple Loops anywhere apart from inside GarageBand. Is sEGments the only way of doing this?

BeatHawk and BeatMaker also handle AppleLoops

Edward_Alexander

@espiegel123 said:

@Intrepolicious said:

@JoyceRoadStudios said:

@Intrepolicious said:
Hmm it never occurred to me that I could use MDES on my guitar signal chain. @McD @SNystrom

I’m off tomorrow and will definitely be giving that a try!

Totally! There are certain filter/sat/fx apps that can be used with guitar all by themselves and without an amp sim, and they have no business being as good as they are in this way. In this concept they become sort of a preamp or loadbox, not unlike what PSA1000 does. Then you pair them with a proper IR and it’s quite amazing. I think the apps used have to be of the highest quality and fidelity. I love using some of the FAC Chorus presets plus an IR with a guitar, and that’s it. You can even play guitar with FAC Chorus standalone and get a sense of it, the “Fifthiver” preset is beguiling polyphonic goodness. @espiegel123 has mentioned that pairing only Saturn 2 with an IR can sound as good or better than “guitar amp sim”.

I wouldn’t completely shun proper guitar amp sims though. They do offer a certain recognizable realism to the guitar tone since they are optimized for guitars.

Now I’ll be able to use my Peavy Bandit (Red Stripe) “Trans-Tube” with MDES in the input chain before my BOSS GT1, and feel like I’m actually playing through a tube amp?

Can’t wait to experiment with this setup! Though I always have to wait until the family will “allow” me to do so. (They’re not always fans of my loudness when I fire up the guitar amps!) because it’s usually late in the evening when I get these chances...

This is one reason why I love this iOS platform for these “virtual guitar rig” stuff, in that I can play quietly for the most part with headphones.

If you are sending the output to an actual tube amp, a digital simulation of tubes in front of the actual tube amp may not improve things. The reason folks like the MDEs is it adds some “analog character”.

The Peavy “Trans-Tube” line of amps are not real tube amps, but their transistor circuitry sort of “emulates” a tube, and they marketed them as such with the “Trans-Tube” name.

I suppose the same could be said about this MagicDeathEye Stereo app though right? I mean, it IS just an app... (software) that “emulates” a real life piece of hardware with actual tubes.

@FPC said:

@gregsmith said:

@tja said:
Can anybody tell me, if i still need EG Pulse with all those Apps:

I make few use of those Apps already, so does EG Pulse offer something unique?

You need drum computer too 😉

Yup. And Bass 808 definitely needs to go in a Synth or Bass folder

Ah, glad I’m not the only one!

@CapnWillie said:
Thoughts and prayers to everyone who doesn’t have DrumComputer and Drambo. 💭 & 🙏🏽

Amen!

@Poppadocrock said:

@Intrepolicious said:

@tja said:
Can anybody tell me, if i still need EG Pulse with all those Apps:

I make few use of those Apps already, so does EG Pulse offer something unique?

I might be in the minority here, but I’ve never looked at Audiokit’s Bass 808 as a “drum” app. I only use it for bass lines and keep it in a folder with all my other “Bass apps” like BASSalicious 2 and iBassist. (But that’s just me!)

With that said, EG Pulse (and sEGments) are amazing apps and must buys IMHO.

I also noticed you’re missing Drum Computer. That’s another must have! Incredible, just incredible drum app that I, and many here believe no “drum app collection” should be without.

That’s just my 2 cents of course. Honestly, while it is a great app for drums, I never use it. Lately, if I reach for some drums, it’s Drum Computer all the way, or one of the Lumbeat drummers. You can also never go wrong with Drambo for drum tracks.

You’re not in the minority. It’s a Bass app, But some of the Bass sounds have a kick quality. I mean the 808 is a drum machine, but this is a Bass app.

Yeah, their 909 drum app is closer to a real 909 than their 808 app is to a real 808, I know. Still though, for bass sounds, their 808 Bass app is pretty dang amazing.

@tja said:
Thanks to all who mentioned that, i will move Bass 808 somewhere else.

Meanwhile I got EG Pulse and i already own sEGments.

About SugarBytes DrumComputer, i installed the free base version and will try around.

The free version will let you play with it in standalone mode, but the real beauty of it is using the AU with 8 multi-out tracks. It’s really, really good!

@reasOne said:

@CapnWillie said:
Thoughts and prayers to everyone who doesn’t have DrumComputer and Drambo. 💭 & 🙏🏽

haha i echo this prayer

Amen again! Drum Computer and Drambo are definitely MUST HAVES!

Ailerom

@tja said:

What's DrumPerfect. I see the pro version but the non pro doesn't show in the app store.

espiegel123

@Ailerom said:

@tja said:

What's DrumPerfect. I see the pro version but the non pro doesn't show in the app store.

I don't think there is a non-pro version of DrumPerfect for iOS currently

Ailerom

@espiegel123 said:

@Ailerom said:

@tja said:

What's DrumPerfect. I see the pro version but the non pro doesn't show in the app store.

I don't think there is a non-pro version of DrumPerfect for iOS currently

What's that in the image then?

Edward_Alexander

@ExAsperis99 said:

@espiegel123 said:

@Intrepolicious said:

@JoyceRoadStudios said:

@Intrepolicious said:
Hmm it never occurred to me that I could use MDES on my guitar signal chain. @McD @SNystrom

I’m off tomorrow and will definitely be giving that a try!

Totally! There are certain filter/sat/fx apps that can be used with guitar all by themselves and without an amp sim, and they have no business being as good as they are in this way. In this concept they become sort of a preamp or loadbox, not unlike what PSA1000 does. Then you pair them with a proper IR and it’s quite amazing. I think the apps used have to be of the highest quality and fidelity. I love using some of the FAC Chorus presets plus an IR with a guitar, and that’s it. You can even play guitar with FAC Chorus standalone and get a sense of it, the “Fifthiver” preset is beguiling polyphonic goodness. @espiegel123 has mentioned that pairing only Saturn 2 with an IR can sound as good or better than “guitar amp sim”.

I wouldn’t completely shun proper guitar amp sims though. They do offer a certain recognizable realism to the guitar tone since they are optimized for guitars.

Now I’ll be able to use my Peavy Bandit (Red Stripe) “Trans-Tube” with MDES in the input chain before my BOSS GT1, and feel like I’m actually playing through a tube amp?

Can’t wait to experiment with this setup! Though I always have to wait until the family will “allow” me to do so. (They’re not always fans of my loudness when I fire up the guitar amps!) because it’s usually late in the evening when I get these chances...

This is one reason why I love this iOS platform for these “virtual guitar rig” stuff, in that I can play quietly for the most part with headphones.

If you are sending the output to an actual tube amp, a digital simulation of tubes in front of the actual tube amp may not improve things. The reason folks like the MDEs is it adds some “analog character”.

That is definitely not a tube amp!

Again, this is true! There’s no tubes in a Peavy TransTube amp.

And MDES is not a “real” tube compressor. (There’s no tubes in an application that only consists of a bunch of lines of code)

Not trying to stroke anyone’s fur the wrong way here, I just think it’s interesting that an analog tube sound can be emulated through transistors and circuitry, and even more fascinating that it can be done in software.

GovernorSilver

GeoSWAM bundle in GeoShred is now $49.99.

For me this is still a bargain, even though I already bought two of the IAPs, because the remaining four add up to about $60.

senhorlampada

@Ailerom said:

@espiegel123 said:

@Ailerom said:

@tja said:

What's DrumPerfect. I see the pro version but the non pro doesn't show in the app store.

I don't think there is a non-pro version of DrumPerfect for iOS currently

What's that in the image then?

it's the older version. Probably the dev removed from the store when he put the Pro version on

Edward_Alexander

Man, Cykle is the most fun I’ve had with a sequencer on iOS since I discovered Fugue Machine way back when!

Can’t believe it’s not talked about more here.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cykle/id1187680637

Montreal_Music

@Intrepolicious said:
Man, Cykle is the most fun I’ve had with a sequencer on iOS since I discovered Fugue Machine way back when!

Can’t believe it’s not talked about more here.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cykle/id1187680637

Better than PolyPase?

Edward_Alexander

@Montreal_Music said:

@Intrepolicious said:
Man, Cykle is the most fun I’ve had with a sequencer on iOS since I discovered Fugue Machine way back when!

Can’t believe it’s not talked about more here.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cykle/id1187680637

Better than PolyPase?

I don’t know.. never heard of that one. looks like I’ve got another one to take for a spin!

gothamoddisee

Cykle feels like the buddy you want to bring along to every party. Plays well with others!
I particularly like how the elegance of the UI keeps all of its complexity close at hand, but out of sight.

ElektrikDiva

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@Intrepolicious said:
Man, Cykle is the most fun I’ve had with a sequencer on iOS since I discovered Fugue Machine way back when!

Can’t believe it’s not talked about more here.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cykle/id1187680637

Can PLEASE you show me how you use Cykle I? I bought it and like most sequencers I have no idea how to set it up to use it. Any tips/screenshots or anything to get me going with it would be gratefully appreciated. I just never know where to start with it. I have most sequencers but no idea how to start off with them. Thanks so much I’m advance to you or anyone who can help me start sequencing away! Cheers, ED

michael_m

Cykle is great for experimentation. Create a basic pattern and drive a synth with a sound you like, then just play around with new lanes and see where it goes.

ElektrikDiva

@michael_m said:
Cykle is great for experimentation. Create a basic pattern and drive a synth with a sound you like, then just play around with new lanes and see where it goes.

Sounds fab Michael! Sounds so easy but do you have a screen shot of how to set that up in AUM? How to play around with a lane? Cheers, ED

CracklePot

@ElektrikDiva said:

@michael_m said:
Cykle is great for experimentation. Create a basic pattern and drive a synth with a sound you like, then just play around with new lanes and see where it goes.

Sounds fab Michael! Sounds so easy but do you have a screen shot of how to set that up in AUM? How to play around with a lane? Cheers, ED

Try this one.

tahiche

@CapnWillie said:
Thoughts and prayers to everyone who doesn’t have DrumComputer and Drambo. 💭 & 🙏🏽

DrumComputer boicot here until it gets a “Record” button for live recording a sequence (finger tapping).

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Toastedghost

@rs2000 said:

@Montreal_Music said:
Anyone tried this? Thoughts?

This synth is, in one word, insane.
Check youtube videos for what kind of unbelievable weirdness people manage to get out of it.

It is cool but so odd to programme compared to standard synths, yes it is a good emulation and capable of some wicked sounds but be prepared ro put a lot of time into it if you hpoe to programme yourself

tahiche

I just got EG Pulse. No multi-layers??. So disappointed, I was sure it had the option for multiple layers (velocity).
I can’t find a good solution for multi-layered drums. And I’ve tried a few.

• DigiStix is great but can’t change patterns via midi, which is a must. You can control just about everything but not patterns... also the multilayer editing is a bit confusing,
• AudioLayer is great but a bit overkill for a straightforward drum machine, also needs external midi for patterns and stuff.
• Drambo. Superb except that for multiple layers (velocity) you need the big sampler and I find it really hard to edit. It’s too small. Flexisampler would be great if it could concatenate samples to use as slices. As with AudioLayer, it’s not quick.

So I was waiting for Pulse, but I can’t see the multiple layers options. Was I wrong in thinking it had multiple layers?. I really didn’t need it otherwise. (And I’ve spent enough these days...).

ruggedsmooth

So what’s the best AuV3 hot sauce app effect for spicing up my drum tracks??

Damn man , spent a lot of money yesterday. Didn’t plan on buying any more apps.
But I Guess I’ll have to swoop up the SWAM bundle on Monday