While we're all cooped up inside, here're some Loopy Pro updates

seventyfour

hey there!

Group the Loop is what I am currently using but it doesn't have multiple outputs and a very small dev team.

I have a Steinberg UC44 hooked up to my iPad pro, a guitar, mic, and two more ins for all kinds of other instruments and route everything into aum. I would like to be able to control as much as possible with external MIDI gear and will probably buy an mx12 in the near future.

If I could arm a track in LoopyPro with a button press and control the recording with my foot pedal, switch to another track with a button press on mx12 to start recording with the same foot pedal this would be absolutely ideal. Alternatively, I could run more instances of LoopyPro because it is an AU looper! In the end, I want to be able to fade tracks in and out and switch between loop groups like in Group the loop.

wim

@seventyfour said:
hey there!

Group the Loop is what I am currently using but it doesn't have multiple outputs and a very small dev team.

@Michael is small too. Really small. Like maybe a little bigger than a hobbit, but no more. Cute too.

fattigman

@Michael will loopy masterpiece function like an auv3 audio clip launcher too, where you can use launchpad to trigger groups of loops?

Michael

@wim said:

@seventyfour said:
hey there!

Group the Loop is what I am currently using but it doesn't have multiple outputs and a very small dev team.

@Michael is small too. Really small. Like maybe a little bigger than a hobbit, but no more. Cute too.

You should see the desk chair I use. Adorable.

@fattigman said:
@Michael will loopy masterpiece function like an auv3 audio clip launcher too, where you can use launchpad to trigger groups of loops?

Sure, yep.

While Loopy Pro will work well as an AU, don’t rule out using it as a host though - it’s going to be an excellent host app, too, with support for things like MIDI AU’s and automatic multiple instances (for applying the same effect to multiple groups with different output channels, for example). And then it’ll work properly with getting the tempo from the first loop, which AU doesn’t really let you do.

lukesleepwalker

@Michael said:
While Loopy Pro will work well as an AU, don’t rule out using it as a host though - it’s going to be an excellent host app, too, with support for things like MIDI AU’s and automatic multiple instances (for applying the same effect to multiple groups with different output channels, for example). And then it’ll work properly with getting the tempo from the first loop, which AU doesn’t really let you do.

This is the part I find tantalizing. Get that beta out the door so you can sit back in your tiny chair and watch the $$$ roll in.

McD

Everytime this thread wakes up, my heart races.

Shabudua

@McD said:
Everytime this thread wakes up, my heart races.

I know, right?

robosardine

It’s like you’re caught in a loop.

reasOne

I’m just here for the loopy pro updates…don’t mind me

Michael

I'm so sorry 😁

Michael

Another little teaser:

(Really not long now!)

Krupa

Definitely looking ace

Better_w_headphone

I hate you ! ( thats wrong )

tahiche

@Michael said:
Another little teaser:

(Really not long now!)

That’s an actual sequencer!. Crazy 😳

0tolerance4silence

Beautiful! Feature rich, but not overwhelming, colourful, but not too busy...
The little details...
You should call it masterpiece

lukesleepwalker

@Michael said:
Another little teaser:

(Really not long now!)

😮

fprintf

@lukesleepwalker said:

😮

My thoughts exactly too. I've put away my music making for a few months now, but I think this one will get me back in the game! Can't wait for it to arrive.

lukesleepwalker

@Michael Does the sequencer only control whether a loop is armed or not? Or can the sequencer play one shots?

supadom

@wim said:

@seventyfour said:

I have 4 input devices, I want to record them on four tracks 1 track for each device. I would like to be able to select groups of loops for every track to overdub or add to.. aand I have to be able to send rec / undo / next loop etc. with a midi foot pedal and/or a normal MIDI controller because I am a guitar guy...^^ This would be killer on Ipad.. my setup would be so damn small

What kind of input devices? What kind of interface to connect them to the iPad? That is a bigger (or at least more expensive) question to get out of the way than the capabilities of the looper. There are already iOS loopers that can do what you describe (Group the Loop comes to mind as closely matching what you describe), and a foot pedal is no problem either.

iOS devices can only have one audio interface active at a time. So, for four inputs you'll need a class compliant audio interface with at least that many inputs. Midi input would be good too, but isn't necessarily needed, especially with a foot pedal like an iRig Blueboard that works over Bluetooth.

That's not to say that Loopy Pro won't be the best looper when it comes (because I expect it will be) - just sayin' there are other things to consider.

I expect the man meant 4 audio inputs. This will be possible with loopy pro AU because individual inputs can be routed to 4 different instances of loopy when hosted.

Ben

@Michael said:
Another little teaser:

(Really not long now!)

Looks like Loopy HD meets Samplebot here.
Also, being AU we will be able to open AUM inside Loopy Pro using Loopy in the output slot.
I hope😃.

sloJordan

So legit!!! @Michael is it possible to start the loops at unquantized times on the sequencer timeline? It seems like that is the case based on the vid but its hard to tell.

Also...I know you don't know for sure, but for my own sanity, do you foresee "Really not long now!" to mean still >=1month? Don't need like a release date, just trying to decide how frequently I should be checking this thread over the next few weeks lol.

wahnfrieden

Will you be able to loop parts of the sequencer, and trigger loops within the sequencer and looping on/off via MIDI? 4pockets MultiTrack Recorder has this and it looks like a powerful addition that I’d love to see here.

theinfinate

@seventyfour said:
I registered just to get me on this discussion. :P I tried so many hardware looper in the last couple of years but sold all of them eventually. I really find it hard to integrate them in a meaningful way. Tracks, MIDI functionality, tempo, effects etc. In my opinion there is a severe lack in the market for a stable multitrack looper that can be put as AU into AUM. I tried some of the apps already but all were just not there yet.. today I found this discussion and yeah please release this beast soon! I will pay in a heartbeat

I have yet to read through all these messages but I really hope for something like this:

I have 4 input devices, I want to record them on four tracks 1 track for each device. I would like to be able to select groups of loops for every track to overdub or add to.. aand I have to be able to send rec / undo / next loop etc. with a midi foot pedal and/or a normal MIDI controller because I am a guitar guy...^^ This would be killer on Ipad.. my setup would be so damn small

have you tried quantiloop? Its the best iOS looper in my opinion

theinfinate

@Michael Sorry if this has been discussed, i just noticed the notifications of this thread were going to my junk folder.
What does the input output effects GUI look like if there is any. Will you have your own effects and the ability to add IAA and AU devices. Something very important I find is having trails on reverbs and delays. I begged this of Stephan (Designer of Quantiloop) and he put them in which was a game changer for me.
The delays must sync with midi clock.
An octaver (voice or guitar to bass) effect is very handy.
Output effects must not effect incoming audio (tracks only) like the RC505

supadom

@Ben said:

@Michael said:
Another little teaser:

(Really not long now!)

Looks like Loopy HD meets Samplebot here.
Also, being AU we will be able to open AUM inside Loopy Pro using Loopy in the output slot.
I hope😃.

AUM is not an AU app but IAA and at least for now Loopy Pro hosts only AU effects as far as I see.

Michael

@lukesleepwalker said:
@Michael Does the sequencer only control whether a loop is armed or not? Or can the sequencer play one shots?

Yep, one shots too.

@supadom said:

@wim said:

I expect the man meant 4 audio inputs. This will be possible with loopy pro AU because individual inputs can be routed to 4 different instances of loopy when hosted.

No need for that, LP has its own routing

@sloJordan said:
So legit!!! @Michael is it possible to start the loops at unquantized times on the sequencer timeline? It seems like that is the case based on the vid but its hard to tell

Yep, absolutely.

Also...I know you don't know for sure, but for my own sanity, do you foresee "Really not long now!" to mean still >=1month? Don't need like a release date, just trying to decide how frequently I should be checking this thread over the next few weeks lol.

I’m progressively opening up beta testing already; next wave shortly. Release will probably be a couple months still, but you’ll have a beta in your hands before then.

@wahnfrieden said:
Will you be able to loop parts of the sequencer, and trigger loops within the sequencer and looping on/off via MIDI? 4pockets MultiTrack Recorder has this and it looks like a powerful addition that I’d love to see here.

Absolutely.

Michael

@theinfinate said:
What does the input output effects GUI look like if there is any.

I’ll post some screenshots when I’m back at my desk.

You can route different inputs to different tracks, adjust gains and monitor state, and add new audio sources – audio units (to which you can also add midi sources to drive them, including midi audio units), or track group outputs themselves, so you can use track groups as an audio source.

For output settings, you can route track groups to different output channels.

Will you have your own effects and the ability to add IAA and AU devices.

Yep, that’s in there. Builtin effects include a very well featured parametric EQ, a dynamics effect combining limiter and compressor, reverb and octave/pitch, and still to come, delay, phaser, chorus, autopan and distortion. All parameters (also for AUs) can be midi controlled or controlled by custom onscreen UI, or via a track envelope for sidechain control.

Effects can be applied to any combination of inputs and outputs, and multiple instances are handled automatically.

Something very important I find is having trails on reverbs and delays. I begged this of Stephan (Designer of Quantiloop) and he put them in which was a game changer for me.

Yep, Loopy handles that via intro/outro sections, which play before and after track playback.

The delays must sync with midi clock.
An octaver (voice or guitar to bass) effect is very handy.
Output effects must not effect incoming audio (tracks only) like the RC505

Yep

Michael

@supadom said:
at least for now Loopy Pro hosts only AU effects as far as I see.

Look closer 😉 It does instruments too.

Michael

By the way, with the sequencer: if the tracks are empty, when the sequence plays back they’ll start recording, and lock in the original length, so you can automate a live performance a la Elise Trouw etc.

lukesleepwalker

@Michael said:

@supadom said:
at least for now Loopy Pro hosts only AU effects as far as I see.

Look closer 😉 It does instruments too.

MIDI AUs?