While we're all cooped up inside, here're some Loopy Pro updates

tahiche

@lukesleepwalker said:

@tahiche said:
This sequencer thing is a game changer.
Will you be able to send midi CC from the sequencer/timeline?. That way you could trigger Drambo, Hammerhead, DigiStix, Atom2 or whatever to change patterns and build a song with rhythmic changes and parts… it’s probably not meant as a full fledged daw but having pattern changes like this would be an amazing songwriting and live tool.
Will you be able to export individual tracks from the sequencer for final mixing and adding more stuff elsewhere?.

Yeah, this is what I was getting at above when I duplicated my question about MIDI AUs—the sequencer is a late (but welcome!) arrival but it’s not clear from the video how extensible it is with other sequencers and MIDI fx.

Your question about mixing was also something I was contemplating last night. Not just export but a quick rough mix like what AUM accomplishes with the record capability. If it’s easy enough then Michael’s assertion that Loopy Pro could be my host of choice looks pretty good—at least on paper. Time will tell!

I’d say depending on the musical style, not just a “quick rough mix” but a proper mix!. There’s a ton of tools and apps for midi and Loopy Pro looks like a huge leap for audio, which has stalled in comparison.
iOS Daws are very limited in audio, (except Auria but that’s a different discussion) and Loopy Pro might (wish) force them forward. iOS audio hype!!

gregsmith

So with all these amazing modular apps now hosting AUs (AUM, Drambo, Loopy Pro), what are we going to use to connect them all together? IAA? AudioBus? Something new?

I can see this becoming the new Holly grail!

wahnfrieden

I am similarly pondering integration with my AUM set

lukesleepwalker

@gregsmith said:
So with all these amazing modular apps now hosting AUs (AUM, Drambo, Loopy Pro), what are we going to use to connect them all together? IAA? AudioBus? Something new?

I can see this becoming the new Holly grail!

Why do they need to be connected? Different tools for different use cases!

wahnfrieden

To use Loopy Pro as a performance looper, with AUM as the “instrument” or track that can be mixed between live and looped. This allows for seamless AUM project changes in a continuously mixed set.

lukesleepwalker

@wahnfrieden said:
To use Loopy Pro as a performance looper, with AUM as the “instrument” or track that can be mixed between live and looped. This allows for seamless AUM project changes in a continuously mixed set.

I don’t think i understand the benefit you describe. If you prefer AUM then you can use Loopy Pro as an AUv3. But if you want most of the stuff you can do in AUM but with an audio looper at the heart of the toolset then you’d use Loopy as the host. So, in a sense, you can already use Drambo and Loopy as “connected” apps, though AUM only works as a host. If Michael includes most of what I need AUM for (and he already has with his work on AB3), I think it’ll be a very interesting host.

wahnfrieden

The benefit is that I don’t need every track of my productions to use the same set of instruments/effects, and I can swap entire sets of instrumentation and routing independently of the looper.

Btw another amazing feature would be a way to send loops between instances like AUv3 to standalone. I want to use standalone as a way to loop the previous track as I change AUM projects, and AUv3 inside AUM as a performance/production tool.

For context I make club / DJ-oriented techno where layering is used extensively across tracks not just to transition

lukesleepwalker

I see. Good luck!

gregsmith

@lukesleepwalker said:

@wahnfrieden said:
To use Loopy Pro as a performance looper, with AUM as the “instrument” or track that can be mixed between live and looped. This allows for seamless AUM project changes in a continuously mixed set.

I don’t think i understand the benefit you describe. If you prefer AUM then you can use Loopy Pro as an AUv3. But if you want most of the stuff you can do in AUM but with an audio looper at the heart of the toolset then you’d use Loopy as the host. So, in a sense, you can already use Drambo and Loopy as “connected” apps, though AUM only works as a host. If Michael includes most of what I need AUM for (and he already has with his work on AB3), I think it’ll be a very interesting host.

For my current setup I’ll probably just have loopy pro as an au in AUM to handle audio clip duties. I just love to experiment so will no doubt try and find different ways for it all to plug together. Can’t actually think of a theoretical advantage yet though, other than being able to host au’s in LP and AUM at the same time.

SpartanClownTide

The holy trinity, AUM, Drambo and Loopy Pro. I can see things getting complicated trying to use everything at once but wow a bit of pick and mix, the possibilities are crazy. Now if Apple could come up with OS that actually delivers that would be great. Thanks.

wahnfrieden

@SpartanClownTide said:
The holy trinity, AUM, Drambo and Loopy Pro. I can see things getting complicated trying to use everything at once but wow a bit of pick and mix, the possibilities are crazy. Now if Apple could come up with OS that actually delivers that would be great. Thanks.

My strategy for taming this complexity is to unite these (except Djay in lieu of Drambo via interface loop back) in a DJ mixer (in interface - currently using AUM for this, with 4 “decks” across AUM, Loopy soon, Djay). Then you can think like a DJ in terms of mixing the sources, an easily understandable layer of abstraction

Mo13

@sloJordan said:

@Michael said:

@sloJordan said:
So legit!!! @Michael is it possible to start the loops at unquantized times on the sequencer timeline? It seems like that is the case based on the vid but its hard to tell

Yep, absolutely.

Also...I know you don't know for sure, but for my own sanity, do you foresee "Really not long now!" to mean still >=1month? Don't need like a release date, just trying to decide how frequently I should be checking this thread over the next few weeks lol.

I’m progressively opening up beta testing already; next wave shortly. Release will probably be a couple months still, but you’ll have a beta in your hands before then.

Wooop, ok then high frequency checking will continue...thanks for the update! Looking forward to giving feedback / making music

Awesome! Just registered but been following this thread for some time and wondering if there is a particular place to sign up for the beta?

supadom

I think that would certainly be unique to have all that @seventyfour but it already feels like Loopy is trying to do a lot of things as it is. I expect since it has one shot triggering it may be interesting to add beat repeat button to take it towards MPC style performance. > @gregsmith said:

So with all these amazing modular apps now hosting AUs (AUM, Drambo, Loopy Pro), what are we going to use to connect them all together? IAA? AudioBus? Something new?

I can see this becoming the new Holly grail!

In theory you could host Drambo in Loopy or Loopy in Drambo, no need for a separate host.

To me, as long as Samplr is still going and neither of the above can’t host IAAs I’ll stick with Audiobus.

gregsmith

@supadom said:
In theory you could host Drambo in Loopy or Loopy in Drambo, no need for a separate host.

Unless you want to host AU’s within Loopy AND Drambo

I can’t think of a reason why you’d want to yet, I just know there will be one eventually 😉

Stuntman_mike

Hi @Michael, will you create a new thread once Loopy Pro is released?

Michael

@Stuntman_mike said:
Hi @Michael, will you create a new thread once Loopy Pro is released?

I will indeed

Shabudua

@Michael said:

@Stuntman_mike said:
Hi @Michael, will you create a new thread once Loopy Pro is released?

I will indeed

How about when the beta becomes completely open? Because I’m checking this thread every 5 minutes now 😆

Stuntman_mike

@Michael said:

@Stuntman_mike said:
Hi @Michael, will you create a new thread once Loopy Pro is released?

I will indeed

Thank you!

Michael

@Shabudua said:
How about when the beta becomes completely open? Because I’m checking this thread every 5 minutes now 😆

Yep, I'll do that.

Also, be sure to sign up at https://loopypro.com

Michael

gregsmith

@Michael said:

👌

wawelt

YES!!!

Jumpercollins

@Michael said:

That looks like the future of iOS music right there!

SpookyZoo

@Michael posted:
-cool vid here-

Lovely stuff!

BTW: What hardware & software did you use to film & edit the video snippet? Looks great!

michael_m

@Michael said:

I would buy it for the graphics alone, even if I didn’t use it!

Nathi94

@michael_m said:

@Michael said:

I would buy it for the graphics alone, even if I didn’t use it!

Yess, it looks gorgeous!

seventyfour

I have major gas for some new apps but don’t wanna spend my money because I think loopypro will do it better^^

Michael

@SpookyZoo said:

@Michael posted:
-cool vid here-

Lovely stuff!

BTW: What hardware & software did you use to film & edit the video snippet? Looks great!

Thanks! That’s just Screenflow, which I use for pretty much all video production these days.

nerVe

Cool App!

wawelt

Hey Michael, I’ve been thinking about the sequencer and I have one question related to overdubbing. Imagine that you record 2 bars of rhythm on one track and then you layer a melody over the same track. If I was to replicate that on the timeline would I need to record the overdub as a separate track which would be then launched from the sequencer or is the track going to be able to recall it’s previous states? (dropdown, choose version). Thanks!