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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • JanosaxJanosax
    edited October 2022

    @xglax I’ve found what seems to cause the issue, like 100 % sure!!! This happens on iPhone … and iPad, iOS 16 and … iPadOS 15, in Loopy Pro and another AUV3 host in beta version. Only with LK.

    Correlation? Using 32 buffers latency!! No issues with 64 and higher.

    100 % reproductible here, see video:

    Hope you can fix this :)

  • xglaxxglax

    @Janosax said:
    @xglax I’ve found what seems to cause the issue, like 100 % sure!!! This happens on iPhone … and iPad, iOS 16 and … iPadOS 15, in Loopy Pro and another AUV3 host in beta version. Only with LK.

    Correlation? Using 32 buffers latency!! No issues with 64 and higher.

    100 % reproductible here, see video:

    Hope you can fix this :)

    Nicely spotted! You're right. We'll open an issue regarding this and you can expect a fix in the next beta!

    Thanks for letting us know this!

  • JanosaxJanosax
    edited October 2022

    @xglax said:

    @Janosax said:
    @xglax I’ve found what seems to cause the issue, like 100 % sure!!! This happens on iPhone … and iPad, iOS 16 and … iPadOS 15, in Loopy Pro and another AUV3 host in beta version. Only with LK.

    Correlation? Using 32 buffers latency!! No issues with 64 and higher.

    100 % reproductible here, see video:

    Hope you can fix this :)

    Nicely spotted! You're right. We'll open an issue regarding this and you can expect a fix in the next beta!

    Thanks for letting us know this!

    Nice thanks!!! It was well hidden, I spent more than hour trying to find a cause to this issue. Need so much LK on my new phone even if it wasn’t even the device which was the culprit ;)

  • SamSamSamSamSamSam
    edited October 2022

    @tahiche said:

    @SamSamSam said:

    @sinosoidal said:
    While we love to update LK, it is also important that our time investment into the app could generate a new source of income. Unfortunately, the amount of work is not proportional with our resources growth and the result is that we tend to iterate less frequently.

    Following this line of thought, what unique feature would you be available to pay as a new in-app purchase?

    I'm an "unadvanced"user of Lk, so I may have missed some features. Sorry if what I suggest already exist:

    1. In the matrix, a drum track view. We are not very far from that, thanks to the ability to select "presets". But, Zenbeat (in the drum track panel) is a good example of the kind of interface that would be convenient. Octachron or drumlab (in the steps view) also give a good idea of the interface and functionality that could be interesting:
    • mute some of the drums
    • easy access to velocity / sub-divide / probability... for each step / drum
    • convenient ways to enter multiple steps for a specific drum (in Zenbeat, it is very well implemented)
    • polyrythm (see drumlab, for a good implementation of that, and also polybeat I think, but I don't have it yet)

    Zenbeat or drumlab are not AUV3. Octatron and polybeat do not allow midi input or midi import. So, there is a room for that kind of functionality in Lk, I think. And it would be an IAP, of course.

    1. A convenient way to navigate and explore midi files / patterns. Again, Zenbeat does that well and differentiate drum patterns and "instrument" patterns: you can search and select by tag (however, you can't "tag" your own patterns). Again, it could be an IAP.

    +1 I’d love to see drum-specific clips aswell. All valid points.
    I can’t stand piano rolls for drums, it’s a brain short circuit.
    Like you point out most auv3 sequencers don’t allow real time recording, a must.
    Would this be hard to implement?.

    Hello @sinosoidal
    Any chance of seeing that happening?

  • catherdercatherder
    edited October 2022

    Is there a way to export and import projects from LK to the external file system so that they can be managed (put in folders), backed up, or moved to other devices ? In the save dialog is the option "export as live set", but although I am not an Ableton user, this looks as if it is only for A Live and cannot be reimported. And I notice some kind of down arrow / download icon to the right of "Bank" when the project list is shown. Pressing on it opens a file dialog, but no idea what this is about. BTW: I am talking about the standalone version of LK.

  • gregsmithgregsmith
    edited October 2022

    Hey @sinosoidal
    There’s an exposed parameter in LK for arming tracks which I’m trying to use in Loopy.
    Is there a similar one for disarm? I was kinda hoping it might arm if I sent a value of 1 and disarm if I sent a value of 0, but I think it just toggles on off whatever value you send? Maybe this is mimicking ableton behaviour?

    Edit: seemingly the same for the global record parameter as well. Would be useful if sending value 0 always toggled it off as well

  • xglaxxglax

    @catherder said:
    Is there a way to export and import projects from LK to the external file system so that they can be managed (put in folders), backed up, or moved to other devices ? In the save dialog is the option "export as live set", but although I am not an Ableton user, this looks as if it is only for A Live and cannot be reimported. And I notice some kind of down arrow / download icon to the right of "Bank" when the project list is shown. Pressing on it opens a file dialog, but no idea what this is about. BTW: I am talking about the standalone version of LK.

    The arrow you're talking about is what you're looking for. You can export your local bank (by clicking in the arrow right of the local bank) and it will be saved as a file with a ".lbe" extension. This file will contain all the patches in your local bank. You can then import that file on other devices, with the downwards arrow next to the "BANK" name.

  • xglaxxglax

    @gregsmith said:
    Hey @sinosoidal
    There’s an exposed parameter in LK for arming tracks which I’m trying to use in Loopy.
    Is there a similar one for disarm? I was kinda hoping it might arm if I sent a value of 1 and disarm if I sent a value of 0, but I think it just toggles on off whatever value you send? Maybe this is mimicking ableton behaviour?

    Edit: seemingly the same for the global record parameter as well. Would be useful if sending value 0 always toggled it off as well

    Right now, record and arm buttons work as toggles, even if you send a zero value. We made some changes when we were working on the midi controllers integration, and to prevent some buttons from turning arm on when pressed and turning off when released we had to make some adjustments. I understand what you're asking, but can't promise that we'll have a solution for that (at least for now). But I'll open a ticket

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @xglax said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Hey @sinosoidal
    There’s an exposed parameter in LK for arming tracks which I’m trying to use in Loopy.
    Is there a similar one for disarm? I was kinda hoping it might arm if I sent a value of 1 and disarm if I sent a value of 0, but I think it just toggles on off whatever value you send? Maybe this is mimicking ableton behaviour?

    Edit: seemingly the same for the global record parameter as well. Would be useful if sending value 0 always toggled it off as well

    Right now, record and arm buttons work as toggles, even if you send a zero value. We made some changes when we were working on the midi controllers integration, and to prevent some buttons from turning arm on when pressed and turning off when released we had to make some adjustments. I understand what you're asking, but can't promise that we'll have a solution for that (at least for now). But I'll open a ticket

    Ah I see what you mean. Hopefully it can be added at some point in some way, maybe with separate exposed parameters? I’m working on integration of LK into Loopy Pro and it’s working really well apart from a few little things like this. Hold mode (which I’ve already requested) would be the absolute icing on the cake.

    Still, it’s great to have LK back in my workflow. So many great features like note folding.

  • xglaxxglax

    @Janosax

    Can you please see if the newest beta (1.12.6) resolves the issue with the 32 buffer size?

  • JanosaxJanosax
    edited November 2022

    @xglax said:
    @Janosax

    Can you please see if the newest beta (1.12.6) resolves the issue with the 32 buffer size?

    Yes it’s fixed here great job thanks B) :)

  • branisbranis

    @sinosoidal @xglax I noticed today that when you use a scale and set the keyboard to fold to scale, going out of the clip editor and back will reset your zoom setting. The clip will zoom to the full range of 10 octaves for the entire length of the clip (actually only from the first to the last note, not including any blank spaces at the beginning and end). I’m on the latest beta.

  • auxmuxauxmux

    @branis said:
    @sinosoidal @xglax I noticed today that when you use a scale and set the keyboard to fold to scale, going out of the clip editor and back will reset your zoom setting. The clip will zoom to the full range of 10 octaves for the entire length of the clip (actually only from the first to the last note, not including any blank spaces at the beginning and end). I’m on the latest beta.

    I've seen this happen occasionally as well.

  • xglaxxglax

    @branis @auxmux

    Yeah, its a bug. We'll try to fix that in this or in the next beta.

    Thanks for reporting!

  • sbtbrownissbtbrownis

    Hello LK is just what I need-using it to trigger clips in aum, but I can’t find the rec quantize button. My main screen contains mode,learn,clock,tempo,project. Should rec quantize be there somewhere? Am I in some weird mode? Also no q button to quantize-help!

  • branisbranis
    edited November 2022

    @sbtbrownis said:
    Hello LK is just what I need-using it to trigger clips in aum, but I can’t find the rec quantize button. My main screen contains mode,learn,clock,tempo,project. Should rec quantize be there somewhere? Am I in some weird mode? Also no q button to quantize-help!

    Record Quantization moved to the settings menu. Tap the cog icon in the top right corner to open the menu and turn it on.

    To quantize after recording, long tap the clip with your midi and select Properties. Then in the right side-panel, inside the midi editor, tap the tab with the wrench icon. Tap Select All (or manually select notes to quantize) and then tap Quantize.

  • symianbeatzsymianbeatz

    @sinosoidal any chance of baking in support for the new APC mini mk2?

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @symianbeatz said:
    @sinosoidal any chance of baking in support for the new APC mini mk2?

    We can open issue but I can't promise you an ETA. :disappointed:

  • symianbeatzsymianbeatz

    @sinosoidal said:

    @symianbeatz said:
    @sinosoidal any chance of baking in support for the new APC mini mk2?

    We can open issue but I can't promise you an ETA. :disappointed:

    No probs, I know you guys are busy, thanks for replying 👍

  • MatthewKayMatthewKay

    This seems like an active thread so I will ask this question again. I have an iConnect4c with a second gen big iPad Pro on one end and an M1 Mini on the other and I have had NO luck getting the Bridge app to recognize my iPad through the interface. Am I S.O.L.? Has anyone had any luck with a similar setup? Thanks in advance. Peace on Earth and in the AB forum.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Does anybody know whether it is possible to let LK follow a timeline? For instance: I have LK running in NanoStudio with the host follow on. I have NanoStudio looping between the 4th and 7th bar and I would love to have Lk running between those same bars (as is possible in Atom or Helium for instance).

    If not possible, would it be possible as a feature request @sinosoidal ?

  • JeezsJeezs
    edited December 2022

    Hope LK will support mouse, still hope I can scroll the matrix or inside the clips !
    Is there any chance we’ll get this facility soon?

  • JeezsJeezs

    I also notice that LK eats far more processing than other auv3 midi sequencer.
    More than twice the the DSP than drambo, helium or atome 2, it use about 50% % of my processor in AUM for 16 tracks when Drambo with 16 tracks use about 10%.
    Is there any way or settings to save some processing power?

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @Sawiton said:
    This seems like an active thread so I will ask this question again. I have an iConnect4c with a second gen big iPad Pro on one end and an M1 Mini on the other and I have had NO luck getting the Bridge app to recognize my iPad through the interface. Am I S.O.L.? Has anyone had any luck with a similar setup? Thanks in advance. Peace on Earth and in the AB forum.

    Are you talking about UBRIDGE? What exactly are you trying to achieve?

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @janpieter said:
    Does anybody know whether it is possible to let LK follow a timeline? For instance: I have LK running in NanoStudio with the host follow on. I have NanoStudio looping between the 4th and 7th bar and I would love to have Lk running between those same bars (as is possible in Atom or Helium for instance).

    If not possible, would it be possible as a feature request @sinosoidal ?

    Sorry, we do not support such feature at the time being. We are working on a new software and we are concentrating our limited efforts on it. I'm afraid complex feature requests will be kept in the queue.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @Jeezs said:
    Hope LK will support mouse, still hope I can scroll the matrix or inside the clips !
    Is there any chance we’ll get this facility soon?

    I think this could be possible because we have already done it on a separated branch. Let's see if we can fit it in a revision update in the beggining of next year.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @Jeezs said:
    I also notice that LK eats far more processing than other auv3 midi sequencer.
    More than twice the the DSP than drambo, helium or atome 2, it use about 50% % of my processor in AUM for 16 tracks when Drambo with 16 tracks use about 10%.
    Is there any way or settings to save some processing power?

    This is all about optimization. We have spent a lot of time adding features but not optimizing. Optimization is a work by itself. We can't promise you efforts in this direction in a near future.

  • JeezsJeezs

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Jeezs said:
    I also notice that LK eats far more processing than other auv3 midi sequencer.
    More than twice the the DSP than drambo, helium or atome 2, it use about 50% % of my processor in AUM for 16 tracks when Drambo with 16 tracks use about 10%.
    Is there any way or settings to save some processing power?

    This is all about optimization. We have spent a lot of time adding features but not optimizing. Optimization is a work by itself. We can't promise you efforts in this direction in a near future.

    I agree LK is certainly the most versatile and powerful Auv3 sequencer.
    Hope you succeed to optimise.
    Thanks for clarification

  • MatthewKayMatthewKay

    @sinosoidal Thank you for the reply! Yes UBRIDGE. I have not been able to get that to recognize the hard connection from Mac Mini through the iConnect interface to the iPad. I works fine when a device is plugged straight into USB on the Mini. I get it may be an odd, if not unique, scenario. It really isn't a big deal. It is still a great app.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @Sawiton said:
    @sinosoidal Thank you for the reply! Yes UBRIDGE. I have not been able to get that to recognize the hard connection from Mac Mini through the iConnect interface to the iPad. I works fine when a device is plugged straight into USB on the Mini. I get it may be an odd, if not unique, scenario. It really isn't a big deal. It is still a great app.

    Can you clarify what do you mean with “hard connection from Mac Mini through the iConnect interface to the iPad”? I’m still not sure what you mean.

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