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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • sinosoidalsinosoidal
    edited November 2020

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:
    We are testing note probability in the latest LK beta 1.8.5. Has anyone tried it already? How does it feel?

    I would like to test it, but I'm not quite sure how to use it/what it is?

    The bar represents the probability from 0% to 100% of a note to play. This is useful to create variations in a clip.

  • WhiteWhite

    @sinosoidal said:

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:
    We are testing note probability in the latest LK beta 1.8.5. Has anyone tried it already? How does it feel?

    I would like to test it, but I'm not quite sure how to use it/what it is?

    The bar represents the probability from 0% to 100% of a note to play. This is useful to create variations in a clip.

    Thanks for the explanation, I will try it later today when I'm off work 😊

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @sinosoidal
    So much fun... :)
    Small suggestions for your consideration

    • global note probability note follow action
    • strength control for note follow actions - how far you want the new random note to fall from original
    • would be great if note follow actions could be customisable - current behaviour (destructive - original clip changes) - non-destructive behaviour (changes apply in the background, you can edit the clip while playing and you can revert back to the original clip)
  • branisbranis

    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @branis said:
    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

    This is a really good suggestion. Thanks!

  • PolyphonixPolyphonix

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

    This is a really good suggestion. Thanks!

    Actually not a bad idea, but maybe you should consider that it only works well with relatively long notes in a zoom-in of the grid. As soon as many short notes are spread over several octaves and maybe even over a larger number of bars you have to zoom in/out much more often to get a good read of the probability bar.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @royor said:
    @Intrepolicious This is easier than dragging.. works in every module.. single tap either side of hamburger to open + close..

    @Frank303 said:

    @Intrepolicious said:

    Besides swiping the = handle, you can click on that area and it pops up in full! Also, using the << and >> buttons at the bottom navigates between tracks :smile:

    @royor said:
    @Intrepolicious This is easier than dragging.. works in every module.. single tap either side of hamburger to open + close..

    @Frank303 said:

    @Intrepolicious said:

    Besides swiping the = handle, you can click on that area and it pops up in full! Also, using the << and >> buttons at the bottom navigates between tracks :smile:

    @wim said:
    And there's also long-press on the clip, then "properties". That one is a little bit time consuming but handy.

    Thanks guys! That does make things a tad easier. It still doesn’t address being able to see the clip blocks (scenes) and their respective piano rolls at the same time, but I can work with that.

  • WhiteWhite

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:
    We are testing note probability in the latest LK beta 1.8.5. Has anyone tried it already? How does it feel?

    I would like to test it, but I'm not quite sure how to use it/what it is?

    The bar represents the probability from 0% to 100% of a note to play. This is useful to create variations in a clip.

    Thanks for the explanation, I will try it later today when I'm off work 😊

    It works really well and gives nice variations in basslines and drum patterns 👍

  • WhiteWhite

    @sinosoidal said:

    @White said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    -- but I'd suggest that you make shift a simple single-tap toggle. Even though I used it with two hands free, I find the shift mechanism awkward. My guess is that for most people shift being a toggle would be a better user experience.

    +1 Making Shift a single tap toggle is a good idea 👍

    Are you really taking into account the implications? While it might seem a good idea at first, if you just want to do a quick shift usage, you will need to toggle it on and then off which is also burocratic as hell.

    When I'm using Shift, I always double tap to enable it, do something in Shift-mode and then double tap it again to disable it.
    I never use hold Shift to do something in Shift-mode.

    But I can see the problem with a toggle on/off Shift button for users who uses hold Shift. So maybe it's better to leave it as it is, it's not a big issue for me to double tap to enable/disable Shift 😊

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited November 2020

    That's huge..

  • branisbranis

    @Polyphonix said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

    This is a really good suggestion. Thanks!

    Actually not a bad idea, but maybe you should consider that it only works well with relatively long notes in a zoom-in of the grid. As soon as many short notes are spread over several octaves and maybe even over a larger number of bars you have to zoom in/out much more often to get a good read of the probability bar.

    good point, maybe a vertical bar would be better. It would be short, thus less precise, but you can always see a precise probability information by opening the editor, this should just give you a rough idea.

  • RajahPRajahP

    Maybe a Quantize to Key/Scale thingy in the piano-roll?

  • Frank303Frank303

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @White said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    -- but I'd suggest that you make shift a simple single-tap toggle. Even though I used it with two hands free, I find the shift mechanism awkward. My guess is that for most people shift being a toggle would be a better user experience.

    +1 Making Shift a single tap toggle is a good idea 👍

    Are you really taking into account the implications? While it might seem a good idea at first, if you just want to do a quick shift usage, you will need to toggle it on and then off which is also burocratic as hell.

    When I'm using Shift, I always double tap to enable it, do something in Shift-mode and then double tap it again to disable it.
    I never use hold Shift to do something in Shift-mode.

    But I can see the problem with a toggle on/off Shift button for users who uses hold Shift. So maybe it's better to leave it as it is, it's not a big issue for me to double tap to enable/disable Shift 😊

    Same here, I never use shift hold, always double tap, and got used to it. Wish we could do without shift, but can understand the purpose.

  • ArtvargArtvarg

    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

  • branisbranis

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    Please do. Send me pvt message with link to the video! thx

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @branis said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

    We need to investigate.

  • GrimLuckyGrimLucky

    @branis said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

    Just to confirm I’ve had a few freezes with my APC25 in AUM as well.

  • PolyphonixPolyphonix

    @branis said:

    @Polyphonix said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

    This is a really good suggestion. Thanks!

    Actually not a bad idea, but maybe you should consider that it only works well with relatively long notes in a zoom-in of the grid. As soon as many short notes are spread over several octaves and maybe even over a larger number of bars you have to zoom in/out much more often to get a good read of the probability bar.

    good point, maybe a vertical bar would be better. It would be short, thus less precise, but you can always see a precise probability information by opening the editor, this should just give you a rough idea.

    Check how flat the notes are already at a vertical grid zoom of two octaves when it is stretched to about half of the screen, probably both a vertical and a horizontal bar will not be easy to read then. Not everyone has a 12.9 iPad and even on this one this concept will soon reach its limits. I think a good visibility of the status is given if the probability color has enough contrast to the grid color, that should do.

  • dpeacedpeace
    edited November 2020

    Anyone else having weird scaling on the Chorder screen (12.9” iPad Pro 2)?

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @GrimLucky said:

    @branis said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

    Just to confirm I’ve had a few freezes with my APC25 in AUM as well.
    @sinosoidal said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    Please do. Send me pvt message with link to the video! thx

    Thanks for sending me the video. This is serious. We need to investigate. Others that are having LK freeze while using external controllers are keyboards are using iOS 14 as well?

    Our development devices are still on iOS 13.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @dpeace said:
    Anyone else having weird scaling on the Chorder screen (12.9” iPad Pro 2)?

    What do you mean by weird scaling?

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @GrimLucky said:
    Just to confirm I’ve had a few freezes with my APC25 in AUM as well.

    What iOS version are you running?

  • branisbranis

    @sinosoidal said:

    @GrimLucky said:

    @branis said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

    Just to confirm I’ve had a few freezes with my APC25 in AUM as well.
    @sinosoidal said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    Please do. Send me pvt message with link to the video! thx

    Thanks for sending me the video. This is serious. We need to investigate. Others that are having LK freeze while using external controllers are keyboards are using iOS 14 as well?

    Our development devices are still on iOS 13.

    Yes, iOS 14.2 here

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @branis said:
    Yes, iOS 14.2 here

    Can you tell me if the problem is similar to @GrimLucky? @GrimLucky, are you able to share your video with @branis?

  • GrimLuckyGrimLucky

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Yes, iOS 14.2 here

    Can you tell me if the problem is similar to @GrimLucky? @GrimLucky, are you able to share your video with @branis?

    Been busy with work this week so not had a chance to play with this again, will try it later and record a video. It seemed to happen while recording clips and I had around 8 tracks going.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    @GrimLucky said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Yes, iOS 14.2 here

    Can you tell me if the problem is similar to @GrimLucky? @GrimLucky, are you able to share your video with @branis?

    Been busy with work this week so not had a chance to play with this again, will try it later and record a video. It seemed to happen while recording clips and I had around 8 tracks going.

    I believe we have identified the problem. Next beta hopefully should have the problem fixed.

  • sinosoidalsinosoidal

    By the way, our November Sale has begun! :blush:

  • GrimLuckyGrimLucky

    @sinosoidal said:

    @GrimLucky said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    Yes, iOS 14.2 here

    Can you tell me if the problem is similar to @GrimLucky? @GrimLucky, are you able to share your video with @branis?

    Been busy with work this week so not had a chance to play with this again, will try it later and record a video. It seemed to happen while recording clips and I had around 8 tracks going.

    I believe we have identified the problem. Next beta hopefully should have the problem fixed.

    That’s great, had a go tonight but didn’t have any freezes.

  • Vlad11Vlad11

    I bought matrix and trying to record something with AUM as a host. Is there a way to activate a metronome inside lk cause right now is almost impossible to record midi notes on time with AUM sequencing at the same time.

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