LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

branis

@espiegel123 said:
I can trigger clips from LK’s keyboard and pads, but if I route the same MIDI notes into LK from AUM’s keyboard those notes aren’t triggering the clips. Have I misconfigured something?

You need to select AUM’s keyboard as a MIDI source (either by tapping the keyboard icon or by tapping midi routing icon and checking the built in keyboard), select MIDI channel 1 (for some reason I can get it to work only on that channel) and a MIDI note. In my screenshot I selected note 36 which is C2 in AUM

fattigman

Hi!
Maybe this is not possible in LK yet. I’m trying to make the last note in a pattern sustain the next time the loop starts over again. I haven’t found a way to do this in LK. I know this is a feature in Xequence 2. Can I do this in LK? @sinosoidal

espiegel123

@Vlad11 said:
I installed lk demo version and trying to decide if buying the matrix module or not. I don't see a way to midi map my launch pro xl (the mixer version). Not even on AUM cause I don't see launching clip controls either. Is it not supported? This is essential for my workflow.... if I don't have a way to launch clips with my controllers then I'll keep waiting for Atom2 (which I was gonna buy anyway.... I can't fool myself

To set the clip,scene launching settings, you bring up the properties for the clip or scene being launched. You choose channel and cc or note. It took me a while to realize.

@sinosoidal : it would be very helpful to have MIDI learn for setting the launch note or cc that didn't require diving into properties for each item. Is there a more straightforward method I've overlooked that doesn't require bringing up the properties for each item you want to control?

One of the brilliant things about ModStep is how quickly/easily you can assign the notes and controllers to what they control.

tahiche

@espiegel123 said:

@Vlad11 said:
I installed lk demo version and trying to decide if buying the matrix module or not. I don't see a way to midi map my launch pro xl (the mixer version). Not even on AUM cause I don't see launching clip controls either. Is it not supported? This is essential for my workflow.... if I don't have a way to launch clips with my controllers then I'll keep waiting for Atom2 (which I was gonna buy anyway.... I can't fool myself

To set the clip,scene launching settings, you bring up the properties for the clip or scene being launched. You choose channel and cc or note. It took me a while to realize.

@sinosoidal : it would be very helpful to have MIDI learn for setting the launch note or cc that didn't require diving into properties for each item. Is there a more straightforward method I've overlooked that doesn't require bringing up the properties for each item you want to control?

One of the brilliant things about ModStep is how quickly/easily you can assign the notes and controllers to what they control.

+1 on midi learn.

espiegel123

@sinosoidal : another LK request: text entry of numerical values if you double tap (Or maybe tap hold) a control. Setting up the midi channel, cc number and note name by dragging is fiddly. It can be tricky to set the number you want since when you release the number may jump.

Pxlhg

@espiegel123 said:
@sinosoidal : another LK request: text entry of numerical values if you double tap (Or maybe tap hold) a control. Setting up the midi channel, cc number and note name by dragging is fiddly. It can be tricky to set the number you want since when you release the number may jump.

+1

sinosoidal

@wim said:
Suggestion: Rather than having to press shift to add a track or scene, why not just have a dimmed ⨁ button to the right of the last track and below the last scene? I'm not fond of needing two hands to get to the shift functions when I'm using one hand to hold the iPad.

I think we have space to include a shift on each side of the transport bar. This would probably help.

Regarding the plus to add tracks and scenes. We have seen this request a lot of times. We need to think of an easier way to do it indeed.

sinosoidal

@espiegel123 said:
@sinosoidal : I love LK and have run into a few problems. When working in the piano roll, if you drag a group of notes to the left and any move before 1.1, they are lost. It would be much better if it prevented you from dragging the selection beyond the beginning or end. (It seems that notes aren’t lost if dragging past the end, fwiw, bu I am not 100% sure).

It is not clear what you are actually doing. Please make us a video.

I have a question, when recording into an empty clip to create it, is there some way to set it up so that recording doesn’t start until the host timeline starts? I can set playback up that way but not recording. I am wanting to use AUM’s pre-roll with the metronome on to record some midi but it seems like I have to manually trigger the empty clip for it to start recording. I’d like the recording to start when AUM hits 1.1

No. There isn't.

There is a workaround however, which is having a clip already on scene, with a certain length, in triggered state (clip was playing and then stop button of LK pressed). As soon as AUM finishes the pre, LK will start playing and if that track is arm, will allow recording into the clip too.

sinosoidal

@CapnWillie said:
I can’t find note repeat for the pads if it’s there. If it isn’t there is it coming? If it’s not coming, why? Otherwise loving this app

*I see now. Gotta rig Arp for note repeat. I bet a lot of people would buy the pad iap if this was made clearer.

Yes, you have an arpeggiator built in.

Another probable noob question.... How do you get expressiveness to work? I have pads controlling a snare preset in DRC and neither linear or radial impact velocity of the sound.

I’m pretty sure other noobs will have these basic questions so I’ll update my comment as I figure em out or am helped along.

Expressiveness will only work if the destination machine handles velocity. Maybe that snare preset on DRC doesn't have velocity affecting the signal amplitude (VEL slider in VCA tab of FILTER section).

sinosoidal

@Pxlhg said:
I get notes hanging after pressing stop (multi channel setup in AUM), tried different synths and different channels. Sometimes it works but most of the time the last note played in a sequence just hangs on one of the channels, only way to turn it of is to go in and change preset for the synth in question.
Anyone else have this issue?
@sinosoidal

Can you make us a video replicating this problem? It might be a bug.

sinosoidal

@fattigman said:
Hi!
Maybe this is not possible in LK yet. I’m trying to make the last note in a pattern sustain the next time the loop starts over again. I haven’t found a way to do this in LK. I know this is a feature in Xequence 2. Can I do this in LK? @sinosoidal

It is not supported yet. We are always sending note off to notes playing before we loop. How do you do that in XSequence? Can you please make me a video? Send me via pvt message please.

Carnbot

@sinosoidal said:
Regarding the plus to add tracks and scenes. We have seen this request a lot of times. We need to think of an easier way to do it indeed.

I quite like AUM's solution on the channels, I'm not sure I want to see a + there all the time, so a swipe up on the track or scene area could reveal a +

sinosoidal

@espiegel123 said:
@sinosoidal : it would be very helpful to have MIDI learn for setting the launch note or cc that didn't require diving into properties for each item. Is there a more straightforward method I've overlooked that doesn't require bringing up the properties for each item you want to control?

No there isn't.

One of the brilliant things about ModStep is how quickly/easily you can assign the notes and controllers to what they control.

Indeed. However, LK was not build with that in mind. Adding that kind of support will require a massive refactor. We don't want to adventure ourselves in that task right now.

Freddy_Valeur

Hello sinosoidal
It is possible to create and select drum tracks for auv3 plugins such as ruismaker. Maybe Like in octachron or rozeta rhythm.

Dunamis

After the latest update in LK the DSP in AUM goes over 100% consistently when recording clips.

And this is on the latest iPad Pro, 12.9" version, just starting out a project with one clip and one synth.

Disappointing.

Pxlhg

@sinosoidal said:

@Pxlhg said:
I get notes hanging after pressing stop (multi channel setup in AUM), tried different synths and different channels. Sometimes it works but most of the time the last note played in a sequence just hangs on one of the channels, only way to turn it of is to go in and change preset for the synth in question.
Anyone else have this issue?
@sinosoidal

Can you make us a video replicating this problem? It might be a bug.

Sure but it might be me not fully understanding how to set it up. There's an individual start/stop for each track and I have now discovered I can turn it of that way. But that doesn't seem right so what should I do to make all LK-tracks listening to start/stop from the very beginning? (What does the headphone icon do?) Two tracks have imported midi and a third I draw some notes myself.

Anyway, there was one occasion when I had an AK-808 on one track and I couldn't even turn it off by changing preset on the 808 and thus had do delete it completely but that only happened once.

I will try to reproduce the problem as clear as possible and I'll send you the video via your mail.

sinosoidal

@Freddy_Valeur said:

Hello sinosoidal
It is possible to create and select drum tracks for auv3 plugins such as ruismaker. Maybe Like in octachron or rozeta rhythm.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean with that. Can you make us a video?

sinosoidal

@Dunamis said:
After the latest update in LK the DSP in AUM goes over 100% consistently when recording clips.

And this is on the latest iPad Pro, 12.9" version, just starting out a project with one clip and one synth.

Disappointing.

Please demonstrate us your problem with a video. We can't reproduce this.

sinosoidal

@Pxlhg said:
Sure but it might be me not fully understanding how to set it up. There's an individual start/stop for each track and I have now discovered I can turn it of that way. But that doesn't seem right so what should I do to make all LK-tracks listening to start/stop from the very beginning? (What does the headphone icon do?) Two tracks have imported midi and a third I draw some notes myself.

Sorry, I think it is important to refer that on LK, a track doesn't play. Clip does!

There is a stop all track clips button on each track. But there is no such thing as track start.

I don't fully understand what are you trying to achieve. I'm assuming you want the song to start as soon as you click play on AUM start button.

To accomplish that, you need to have the desired clips in triggered state. This happens when you have clips playing and then you stop the song in LK stop button or if you press stop on AUM. Then as soon as you hit play again, in either play buttons, they will automatically start.

Anyway, there was one occasion when I had an AK-808 on one track and I couldn't even turn it off by changing preset on the 808 and thus had do delete it completely but that only happened once.

I will try to reproduce the problem as clear as possible and I'll send you the video via your mail.

Thanks!

Freddy_Valeur

@sinosoidal said:
@Freddy_Valeur said:

Hello sinosoidal
It is possible to create and select drum tracks for auv3 plugins such as ruismaker. Maybe Like in octachron or rozeta rhythm.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean with that. Can you make us a video?

sinosoidal

@Freddy_Valeur said:

It is possible to create and select drum tracks for auv3 plugins such as ruismaker. Maybe Like in octachron or rozeta

I understand now. Actually, I would name your feature request as layout templates for the composer. This is an interesting feature but we might need a while to make it happen. Maybe when we get to folded notes.

Pxlhg

@sinosoidal said:

@Pxlhg said:
Sure but it might be me not fully understanding how to set it up. There's an individual start/stop for each track and I have now discovered I can turn it of that way. But that doesn't seem right so what should I do to make all LK-tracks listening to start/stop from the very beginning? (What does the headphone icon do?) Two tracks have imported midi and a third I draw some notes myself.

Sorry, I think it is important to refer that on LK, a track doesn't play. Clip does!

There is a stop all track clips button on each track. But there is no such thing as track start.

I don't fully understand what are you trying to achieve. I'm assuming you want the song to start as soon as you click play on AUM start button.

To accomplish that, you need to have the desired clips in triggered state. This happens when you have clips playing and then you stop the song in LK stop button or if you press stop on AUM. Then as soon as you hit play again, in either play buttons, they will automatically start.

Anyway, there was one occasion when I had an AK-808 on one track and I couldn't even turn it off by changing preset on the 808 and thus had do delete it completely but that only happened once.

I will try to reproduce the problem as clear as possible and I'll send you the video via your mail.

Thanks!

Alright, I'm not sure I follow 100% but I made a video but it got a bit too big for sending with mail, but in it, two out of three instruments keep playing after all stop buttons have been pressed i.e AUMs, Main one in LK and every individual one. I will do this: I'll start over from scratch and follow your advice above. If I still get the same result I'll get back too you. Thanks.

EDIT: Okey @sinosoidal that was it, to trigger each tr..clip once you added whatever notes to it. Now I made a very simple one bar loop with three instruments (FRMS, Phosphor and 808) and I assigned volume for each one to Controller. I just got a smile on my ugly face when LK crashed, from nowhere. I restarted AUM and got all back but that was strange. Also for such simple build the DSP was quite high as someone said above. Anyway we can forget about the hanging notes for now

RajahP

Sorry, but, how do you record into LK? I'm having a hard time recording from ATOM... Help.. Should be a simple process... but maybe it's me..

White

@RajahP said:
Sorry, but, how do you record into LK? I'm having a hard time recording from ATOM... Help.. Should be a simple process... but maybe it's me..

Set Atom as midi source in LK:

In LK set input to LK input, set the track to record and set LK to record.

Make sure the clip is triggered and then press play in AUM

RajahP

@White said:

@RajahP said:
Sorry, but, how do you record into LK? I'm having a hard time recording from ATOM... Help.. Should be a simple process... but maybe it's me..

Set Atom as midi source in LK:

In LK set input to LK input, set the track to record and set LK to record.

Make sure the clip is triggered and then press play in AUM

Thanks.. Guess it will take a little more practice... Getting there..

espiegel123

@sinosoidal said:

@espiegel123 said:
@sinosoidal : I love LK and have run into a few problems. When working in the piano roll, if you drag a group of notes to the left and any move before 1.1, they are lost. It would be much better if it prevented you from dragging the selection beyond the beginning or end. (It seems that notes aren’t lost if dragging past the end, fwiw, bu I am not 100% sure).

It is not clear what you are actually doing. Please make us a video.

I will PM you a link to a video in just a minute.

But short version: if you select notes in the piano roll and drag left, the selected notes should stop being moved when the first note hits time 0. What happens is that if you keep dragging after the first note hits time 0, the rest of the selection keeps moving. Most piano rolls don't work that way.

espiegel123

@sinosoidal : I think LK is great AND I think it could benefit from a few tweaks that would make it much more convenient to use and increase productivity for a lot of users while reducing the number of questions you get asked. This post is to summarize a few things I've asked about now that I know the answers. I think most of these are issues that others have asked about or been confused. I apologize for the redundancy, but I figured it might be handy for you to have these notes in one post rather than scattered.

• Setting for linking transport to host (or not). LK when used as an AU would benefit immensely from an option to link its transport controls to the host. Ideally this would be at the top level of the interface (accessible from the main screen) but perhaps it could be in the Settings popup). It is GREAT that you can run it without running the host's timeline. So, I don't want that lost. As it is now, there are cases where there is some ambiguity -- or where you need to start it free running, stop its transport, and then click the hosts play button to do what one wants. It would solve a few problems. It would let you arm clips to play without starting them so that they start when you hit the host play button. The current workaround requires explanation (start your clips playing while LK's transport is running then press stop then start the host) as it isn't obvious and it isn't an elegant solution. It would make recording a clip of unknown length much more convenient.
• Option to arm a clip for for recording so that recording starts when the host transport starts.
• Streamlining of assigning track, scene and clip triggers. Currently, you have to dive into the properties and assign each trigger manually by clicking and dragging. This is cumbersome. Since MIDI Learn seems not to be an option in the near term. Perhaps you could have some sort of 'auto-assign' options or templates that could assign everything at once according to some sensible algorithm. I'd recommend providing a few different options -- perhaps following conventions of some popular controllers -- that would make it easy for people to set things up to control LK even if they don't have a launchpad or whatever.
• Double-tap any numeric value (such as midi channel, cc or note name) to allow text entry -- for easy precise values. Dragging is prone to being off by one.

espiegel123

@wim said:

@espiegel123 said:
I can trigger clips from LK’s keyboard and pads, but if I route the same MIDI notes into LK from AUM’s keyboard those notes aren’t triggering the clips. Have I misconfigured something?

Works for me.

Btw, I figured out what caused the problem -- there is a quirk of AUM of which I wasn't aware. If you tap on the keyboard icon in an AU instrument window's title bar, AUM sets the MIDI channel of its keyboard to the MIDI channel of that AU (if you set one). If you enable the keyboard for a different lane after that, the channel stays on the channel of the previous lane.

skrat

• 1 for syncing with host transport. Honestly, I don’t see a use case for separate transport controls inside LK, but OK, it could stay for having that option if needed. But having simply host transport would make things much less complicated and more convenient.

White

@skrat said:

• 1 for syncing with host transport. Honestly, I don’t see a use case for separate transport controls inside LK, but OK, it could stay for having that option if needed. But having simply host transport would make things much less complicated and more convenient.

+1 for the option for syncing with host transport.