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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • I’m not going to ask anyone to rewrite any code or anything, but I wish in LK when we create a new clip, instead of having to drag up the divider to reveal the clip’s piano roll, we could rather have a piano roll window pop up like an AUM floating window when we tap on a clip. This way we can see the piano roll and the clip(s) view at the same time instead of all the swiping up and down for each clip.

  • @Intrepolicious This is easier than dragging.. works in every module.. single tap either side of hamburger to open + close..

  • Besides swiping the = handle, you can click on that area and it pops up in full! Also, using the << and >> buttons at the bottom navigates between tracks :smile:

  • And there's also long-press on the clip, then "properties". That one is a little bit time consuming but handy.

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @wim said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @wim said:
    Still requires two hands, or some fancy finger gymnastics. That's not so bad when the device is sitting on a surface, but not so great when holding the device with one hand. If shift was a toggle rather than having to be held down, that would help, but visually, it's also burying something that I'm not so sure really needs to be. Just my opinion though. ;)

    Tell me more about your way of working? Usually I'm sit down when doing music and my two hands are free. What are you doing with your other hand?

    Often I'm sitting on the couch holding the iPad with the left hand and poking in notes with the right. I'm not a thirteen year old girl, though I play one on TV.

    By the way, if you double tap shift it will work in toggle mode. Did you knew this one?

    No! Sweet. That helps a lot.

    Thanks! It really means a lot to know about this user experience details. Usually I'm sitted in a table while doing music on the iPad. I need to do music in the couch to feel your pain! :blush:

    No!. No table!. Couch!. Come on... I bet you’re not a 13 year old girl-dev either. So disappointed.

  • edited November 2020

    Got it! :wink:

    Love the photo! :lol:

    Just a side note: I am not a happy young girl, rather a grumpy middle-aged guy :D

    We were all that girl, once upon a time. Life has given us grey pubes and a dick.

  • @White said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    -- but I'd suggest that you make shift a simple single-tap toggle. Even though I used it with two hands free, I find the shift mechanism awkward. My guess is that for most people shift being a toggle would be a better user experience.

    +1 Making Shift a single tap toggle is a good idea 👍

    Are you really taking into account the implications? While it might seem a good idea at first, if you just want to do a quick shift usage, you will need to toggle it on and then off which is also burocratic as hell.

  • We are testing note probability in the latest LK beta 1.8.5. Has anyone tried it already? How does it feel?

  • @sinosoidal said:
    We are testing note probability in the latest LK beta 1.8.5. Has anyone tried it already? How does it feel?

    I would like to test it, but I'm not quite sure how to use it/what it is?

  • edited November 2020

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:
    We are testing note probability in the latest LK beta 1.8.5. Has anyone tried it already? How does it feel?

    I would like to test it, but I'm not quite sure how to use it/what it is?

    The bar represents the probability from 0% to 100% of a note to play. This is useful to create variations in a clip.

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:
    We are testing note probability in the latest LK beta 1.8.5. Has anyone tried it already? How does it feel?

    I would like to test it, but I'm not quite sure how to use it/what it is?

    The bar represents the probability from 0% to 100% of a note to play. This is useful to create variations in a clip.

    Thanks for the explanation, I will try it later today when I'm off work 😊

  • The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

  • @branis said:
    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

    This is a really good suggestion. Thanks!

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

    This is a really good suggestion. Thanks!

    Actually not a bad idea, but maybe you should consider that it only works well with relatively long notes in a zoom-in of the grid. As soon as many short notes are spread over several octaves and maybe even over a larger number of bars you have to zoom in/out much more often to get a good read of the probability bar.

  • @royor said:
    @Intrepolicious This is easier than dragging.. works in every module.. single tap either side of hamburger to open + close..

    @Frank303 said:

    Besides swiping the = handle, you can click on that area and it pops up in full! Also, using the << and >> buttons at the bottom navigates between tracks :smile:

    @royor said:
    @Intrepolicious This is easier than dragging.. works in every module.. single tap either side of hamburger to open + close..

    @Frank303 said:

    Besides swiping the = handle, you can click on that area and it pops up in full! Also, using the << and >> buttons at the bottom navigates between tracks :smile:

    @wim said:
    And there's also long-press on the clip, then "properties". That one is a little bit time consuming but handy.

    Thanks guys! That does make things a tad easier. It still doesn’t address being able to see the clip blocks (scenes) and their respective piano rolls at the same time, but I can work with that.

  • @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:
    We are testing note probability in the latest LK beta 1.8.5. Has anyone tried it already? How does it feel?

    I would like to test it, but I'm not quite sure how to use it/what it is?

    The bar represents the probability from 0% to 100% of a note to play. This is useful to create variations in a clip.

    Thanks for the explanation, I will try it later today when I'm off work 😊

    It works really well and gives nice variations in basslines and drum patterns 👍

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @White said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    -- but I'd suggest that you make shift a simple single-tap toggle. Even though I used it with two hands free, I find the shift mechanism awkward. My guess is that for most people shift being a toggle would be a better user experience.

    +1 Making Shift a single tap toggle is a good idea 👍

    Are you really taking into account the implications? While it might seem a good idea at first, if you just want to do a quick shift usage, you will need to toggle it on and then off which is also burocratic as hell.

    When I'm using Shift, I always double tap to enable it, do something in Shift-mode and then double tap it again to disable it.
    I never use hold Shift to do something in Shift-mode.

    But I can see the problem with a toggle on/off Shift button for users who uses hold Shift. So maybe it's better to leave it as it is, it's not a big issue for me to double tap to enable/disable Shift 😊

  • edited November 2020

    That's huge..

  • @Polyphonix said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

    This is a really good suggestion. Thanks!

    Actually not a bad idea, but maybe you should consider that it only works well with relatively long notes in a zoom-in of the grid. As soon as many short notes are spread over several octaves and maybe even over a larger number of bars you have to zoom in/out much more often to get a good read of the probability bar.

    good point, maybe a vertical bar would be better. It would be short, thus less precise, but you can always see a precise probability information by opening the editor, this should just give you a rough idea.

  • Maybe a Quantize to Key/Scale thingy in the piano-roll?

  • @White said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @White said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    -- but I'd suggest that you make shift a simple single-tap toggle. Even though I used it with two hands free, I find the shift mechanism awkward. My guess is that for most people shift being a toggle would be a better user experience.

    +1 Making Shift a single tap toggle is a good idea 👍

    Are you really taking into account the implications? While it might seem a good idea at first, if you just want to do a quick shift usage, you will need to toggle it on and then off which is also burocratic as hell.

    When I'm using Shift, I always double tap to enable it, do something in Shift-mode and then double tap it again to disable it.
    I never use hold Shift to do something in Shift-mode.

    But I can see the problem with a toggle on/off Shift button for users who uses hold Shift. So maybe it's better to leave it as it is, it's not a big issue for me to double tap to enable/disable Shift 😊

    Same here, I never use shift hold, always double tap, and got used to it. Wish we could do without shift, but can understand the purpose.

  • @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

  • @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

  • @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    Please do. Send me pvt message with link to the video! thx

  • @branis said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

    We need to investigate.

  • @branis said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

    Just to confirm I’ve had a few freezes with my APC25 in AUM as well.

  • @branis said:

    @Polyphonix said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @branis said:
    The probability is great. Awesome for hihats and percussions.
    I'm not sure about the visuals, though. If you have low probability and low velocity, the note becomes transparent.

    Maybe it would be better to represent probability with a bar overlayed at the bottom of the note:

    This is a really good suggestion. Thanks!

    Actually not a bad idea, but maybe you should consider that it only works well with relatively long notes in a zoom-in of the grid. As soon as many short notes are spread over several octaves and maybe even over a larger number of bars you have to zoom in/out much more often to get a good read of the probability bar.

    good point, maybe a vertical bar would be better. It would be short, thus less precise, but you can always see a precise probability information by opening the editor, this should just give you a rough idea.

    Check how flat the notes are already at a vertical grid zoom of two octaves when it is stretched to about half of the screen, probably both a vertical and a horizontal bar will not be easy to read then. Not everyone has a 12.9 iPad and even on this one this concept will soon reach its limits. I think a good visibility of the status is given if the probability color has enough contrast to the grid color, that should do.

  • edited November 2020

    Anyone else having weird scaling on the Chorder screen (12.9” iPad Pro 2)?

  • @GrimLucky said:

    @branis said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    It happens to me too when using a midi controller, both with Korg nanoKEY Studio and Akai APC25. I sent a bug report via TestFlight.

    Just to confirm I’ve had a few freezes with my APC25 in AUM as well.
    @sinosoidal said:

    @Artvarg said:
    @sinosoidal I can pretty consistently bring LK to freeze inside AUM when I try to record MIDI from my Artiphon Orba (single channel MIDI, not in MPE mode). Its pretty annoying. I also captured it on video. Shall I send it to you?

    Please do. Send me pvt message with link to the video! thx

    Thanks for sending me the video. This is serious. We need to investigate. Others that are having LK freeze while using external controllers are keyboards are using iOS 14 as well?

    Our development devices are still on iOS 13.

  • @dpeace said:
    Anyone else having weird scaling on the Chorder screen (12.9” iPad Pro 2)?

    What do you mean by weird scaling?

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