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🤣🤣🤣 there’s no sleep when you have a 13 month old baby. New crib for him today and he doesn’t like it, so screaming all night. So I may as well prattle on about guitars. Nobody sleeping in this house.
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Touché, Flo!!! 🤣
If you think @JoyceRoadStudios is a guitar player you missed his bio at:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/41017/ask-the-artist-joyceroadstudios
You won't believe your ears. Hint: He's got an impressive diaphragm.
Sorry, I just don’t buy that amp sims add noise of their own. They amplify the noise that they’re fed just like a real amp does.
I’m too lazy to prove or disprove that. It’s easy enough to do though. Disconnect everything and feed a software sine wave in. If you get hiss or AC hum then I’m wrong.
All I know is when I play an amp sim, if I get rid of the AC buzz by powering from battery ... violà, no buzz.
Yes, @wim is right. Once in the digital domain, an audio signal will be subject to things such as bit depth, sampling rate, aliasing artefacts, etc as well as deliberate distortions of the waveform (filters, EQ, clipping) but the only noise in an electrical sense will be from something coded to deliberately add it. I have a plug-in emulation of the Roland Space Echo for desktop and this adds noise of this sort to emulate tape hiss.
There is no noise in the digital domain like there definitely is in circuitry (where it comes from random electron movements).
Anything you feed in (mains hum, noise from physical pedals) will be part of the waveform that gets processed along with the signal you want, yes, but this is not the same thing.
@McD and I mentioned “noise” and you guys went off on a tangent. I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing here. I did a small experiment just now, which may be unrelated to what you’re talking about. I plugged in my bus powered interface into the iPad and my headphones into the interface’s headphone Jack, no guitar or cable plugged in. I opened TH-U and selected an amp. There is noise in my ears created by the amp, a hissing. Selecting an amp that’s set to high gain has a lot more noise. Turning the volume and master volume on the amp all the way down reduces the noise but not all the way. Only when I turn the amp “off” does the noise go away completely. The whole point about guitar amps and pedals is signal to noise ratio. Guitar amps emanate noise, when they’re set to high gain but volume turned to zero, they still produce a lot of hiss. Guitar pedals produce noise too. The whole point is that chaining them all together produces too much noise to signal, so players search for better quality pedals or cables, or quieter amps, or noise gate pedals. All these noises get compounded together, just like gain staging. Guitar amp sims and pedals act just like this as well, and the point we were trying to make is that Overloud’s signal to noise ratio is astounding, their components are able to be chained together without the compounded signal noise compromising the sound. There are crazy chains in there that still retain maximum tone at minimum noise. When you open an app like Bias, you get a lot of amp noise for not much tone. Adding pedals and stuff ruins the whole signal, even if you keep the output down. Nembrini amps set to high gain have massive amounts of noise. Overloud has very little noise, or the hissing frequency seems carved out better. Again I don’t think we’re talking about the same “noise”, just praising TH-U for how it handles and shapes it compared to others. Same shit dealing with noisy pedals in real life.
I’m not sure you understand. If I understand what you did correctly, you have input going to that amp. What happens if there is no input to the amp? If it is muted, or turned all the way down.
If there is still noise, then you’re right about TH-U actually modeling the noise of the amp circuitry “at rest”. That’s just weird though. If true, then that’s another reason I’m not interested in TH-U. I get enough unwanted noise just from my crap house current, fluorescent lights, and cheap Strat.
Anyhooo ... I’m not all that interested in the topic, so I’ll drop it there.
Yes that’s true, I can tap on the instrument input hole and it receives signal into the app.
So if I have just headphones plugged into the iPad, or nothing plugged in at all, obviously opening the app creates horrible feedback sound between speakers and internal mic. So that’s still using an input.
Opening up a Nembrini amp on iPhone has the input muted by default, so turning the amp on or off is dead silent so long as the input is muted, if that’s your point. But how does that disprove what we were talking about, mainly the noise factor of amps and pedals. I understand what you’re saying in theory, but I’m also saying that chaining 3 overdrive and shimmer pedals to an amp can create vastly different amounts of noise and distortion depending on the tonal design of each component.
OK, to prove to myself I’m not crazy, I loaded up THU in an AUM FX slot with no audio input. I loaded the highest gain rig I could find. Not one trace of noise. There is no noise being generated by the app itself. Any noise you hear is amplified from the input.
Every gain stage amplifies noise being fed into it, adds harmonics, distorts it, etc.. So, yes, that is true. What it sounded like you were saying is the apps themselves generate the noise. They don’t. But I guess that isn’t what you were saying, so never mind. ✌️
Nevertheless I still learned something.
My stupid usbc hub emits a hum but only when the iPad is pass through charging. And sometimes my fingers touching the iPad screen cause a buzzing sound. I’ll assume that’s a grounding issue.
Yes that makes perfect sense. But then what’s your view on the fact that the input creates less noise inside TH-U with a high gain amp loaded than in Bias with a low gain amp. Isn’t that a testament to the app?
I have the same issue whenever anything is attached to power in my home. I get around it by powering with a battery bank.
No, that’s just natural behavior when amplifying and distorting noise. Less gain = less noise. More gain = more noise. Any amp or distortion will do the same.
It’s how they manage the good stuff that sets them apart. 👍
Here’s some useful information from the Overloud manual about the Rig Player controls. There are two manuals floating around online, one has no info whatsoever on the controls and the other is quite informative. This has helped me understand how I can get better dynamic response and saturation just from picking, and how to improve the rigs I don’t like.
@McD I’m embarrassed to say that I have over 20 rigs now, but as they say what the wife don’t know don’t hurt her. I got the new Fender 68 Princeton rig that came out today, so far not impressed. It’s more veiled than twangy, not much personality, only clean rigs no gain rigs. Went back to check the Bassman and Super Reverb and they sound a lot better. Maybe the Prince will benefit from deliberate knob shaping, I want to like it. However the new Mezzabarba rig (serenity gain) is excellent. Interesting cleans, and huge variety of rock distortion tone. Boogie Fillmore 50 is really good, one of Mesa’s more vintage tone offerings. Really like the Friedman BE50 and Fried Jerry, just really high quality for both clean and crunch. Of course Tone Impera, an amazing rig, extremely interesting and unique tones. Top 3 rig for sure. Worth mentioning are the excellent Vox and Orange rigs. Tomorrow I’ll dice into the Revv and Metropoulos, and on and on we go. Between the Bassman, Edge, SRev, Prince, Vintage 1, and American, I might be happy with my Fenders. I won’t refuse a ‘65 twin reverb rig though. There’s also that Tremolux...
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/41247/ge-labs-my-presets
My next move will be the Amp/Cab bundle so I can check out all the Randall LynchBox Amps.
No more rigs until I get the modules.
I was going to pass on the Distortion/Overdrive bundle since all those Amps can provide enough Distortion and Saturation to last for days AND I can run an
Amp
into an Amp
into a Rig
into a Cab
into a Reverb
into another Cab
into a Delay
and finally...
a 4D Sonic Time and Space Transporter (oops NDA violation).
OK. You made such a stink about the Overdrive pedals that I'll just get the Distortions Bundle.
But I should hit ignore on @flo26 and @JoyceRoadStudios until I catch up sledding my $100 to finish
my collection of basic modules. I'm already into this app for ~$80 with Funk and R&B, All FX and 2 Rigs
and several ala carte Amp impulse buys.
I tell this sad story of creeping consumerism so someone will get a clue: buy the $110 ALL Bundle.
If you think you're going to be a Rig junkie buy the All Bundle on the Desktop and IOS Rigs are $1 each.
$1 for a Rig Bundle with 388 Rigs... 1/4 penny per rig.
I, for one, have see and received the clue from you and @JoyceRoadStudios!
Still somehow managing to hold-out, but you two and Flo make it so easy to surrender and break the piggy bank! 😫
Did that - after following your and @flo26's explorations, I bought the ALL Bundle on iOS and stopped. And so far, rig-free.
Perhaps better re-vector to GE Labs: the unlimited presets unlock is (currently) capped at $25, you can play user presets, cabs, pre-amps, pedals, rigs,... for free - hundreds and hundreds of them - or capture your own (from HW or SW). The drug to avoid there would be the Mooer hardware: this may come easier.
I'd spend more time in GELABS if it was an AUv3 app. But it's only IAA. I didn't buy 2 slots but
I don't use it enough to need more. The Cloud allows me to download and save user created "Rigs"
and play them so they become like extra presets I can easily re-load and potentially keep handy in my 2 slots.
If it out performed TH-U or Nembrini by a large margin that would help but it's more of a push against these 2 AUv3 champs. I tend to stay in TH-U because I can build custom rigs fast and export to my iPhone
5S and play the same tone on my little phone velcro'ed to my Tele'. I use a similar workflow with AUM
projects that add in that IR file benefit with Thafnar instance(s). @ Thafknar starts to push the iPhone
over the edge usually but the efficiency of TH-U sometimes lets me do the Front/Back mic'ed IR's trick.
My little iPhone5s never sounded so good.
I’m sorry to everyone for being such a horrible example. I keep getting more and more stuff because it gives me some misguided feeling that I actually own these amps and pedals. I think ultimately I will end up buying a great amp in the future, and this is just “research”. 27 rigs worth of research! It turns out there are really no bad rigs, because putting the right IR in front of a meh rig makes it a wow rig. I paired an Ownhammer Zilla 4x12 with the 68 Princeton and it saved it. Oh yeah I got more sweet ass Ownhammers today. I’m sick! And set for life.
The Boogie Mark V is a great rig, not just crunch but an extensive tweed channel. This whole addiction started with one Fender rig. I’m officially cutting myself off so I can actually devote the next decade to pairing IRs with ThU amp/rigs, GE Labs, and Nembrini. All those poor neglected cabinet emulations, do I even need them anymore? I’m equipped and if anyone has a component question I’m sure I have a long winded opinion.
Save your money!
I think we did by benefitting from your review. I never bought something you liked and felt any
disappointment. A good reviewer is worth knowing. @flo26's demos can make something sound
great and he's generally good at pointing out good products.
He bought TH-U and licensed it all for $110 but had buyers remorse and decided it wasn't worth the
$110 compared to products he already owned. But he re-visited the amp collection and started to discover
a few gems... they he started buying rigs and found a lot there to like. But he almost didn't demo
any of these amps for us. I shudder to think of a world without his OverLoud demos... he exposed
some of the real cream which is why I'm salivating over the 13 Randall LynchBox amps. 13 x 5 = $65
but I also need the LynchBox cabinet(s) so $70. All amps and cabs? $75 and I'm done (well close to done).
Oh, don't be sorry, @JoyceRoadStudios!
It's been great fun watching you guys scoop-up dozens of amps, cabs and effects and report back to us all what really works and what might perhaps need a little more work.
Plus, it's much cheaper for us to live vicariously through the multitude of demos...
Thank you, guys!
FWIW I still think TH-U gets the most realistic sound and feel, and the appeal of their universe of components and presets and possibilities is hard to deny. Just great quality stuff, a joy to play. With TH-U I forget it’s not real.
Nembrini really excites me too, they are single component masterpieces. Harder to dial in and not as honed in right out of the box, questionable presets and IRs, but these amps scream analog tone and are ultimately most rewarding and top of the list when perfected.
And GE Labs plays and sounds great and has that optimized sheen that many guitarists crave, and the pricing model is bonkers cheap. Also some next level tech.
How lucky are we?! I’m finally ready to stop looking and start crafting tone and recording music. Not to mention, playing for hours a day has improved my chops.
The trick on this forum is to find someone that values the same things you do in an App.
When @jakoB_haQ recommends a synth... I trust I'll like it.
When @thesoundtestroom demo's an app his video often provides the right experience to make a decision.
@flo26 often put up videos in the early months and didn't explain how he set things up but he started
putting up screen recordings I could stop and study the knobs settings and I learned so much by
seeing how he dials in a tone.
@samu is good for sequencers.
All DAW's are less than wonderful but some are better for some things:
AP - mastering
Cubasis - ease of use and AUv3 FX
AUM - live rigs and potentially a lot more with effort (like folding in Xequence 2)
@espiegel123 really helps with those custom app hybrids (videos, wiki and threads).
So, @JoyceRoadStudios showed up at the right time sharing his big investments in TH-U.
And you can't show me a performer that doesn't respond to an audience so we pushed him
hard to keep the reviews coming. If he needs it I'll send a little missive to his missus explaining
that he's a hero to some kid with a $20 iTunes gift card that need to use his phone until he can
buy a real amp and he likes "Dark Side of the Moon".
@JoyceRoadStudios is like the wikipedia of IOS amp reviews, Missus Studios. He's a "community
organizer" like B. Obama.
@McD I have no agenda besides using my ears for good, describing guitar gear like it’s wine, and sharing in the excitement of this music making community. Oh and my other agenda is to be compared to one of my heroes Barack, so thank you.
It's funny you just made that post, professor, because I've been thinking about how we could create an AB Hall of Fame to recognize those who have given so much back to the forum community over the years.
I don't know if it's even possible (or how technically it would actually work) but at the very least it would be great if HOFers could have an icon as a part of their handle that signified expert knowledge...
Just an idea...
A little off topic but I A/Bed the Axe-Fx II with iOS versions of THU (free) and Nembrini BST-100 a couple of nights ago. I was only going for clean tones; I find a solid clean tone more elusive than the dirty stuff. Added a splash of reverb via Eventide Spring for the iOS apps. Frankly, I preferred the ‘feel’ of the iOS stuff -- so much potential on this platform!
Steady. Plenty of forums get ruined by inflated egos. Things are going just fine here.