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Yup thu iOS rigs have never been on sale until now, there was maybe one 11.99 rig once. And the rigs don’t get intro pricing on iOS when they come out, they do on desktop. But on iOS you get the actual Rig Player component for free, on desktop you have to buy it. If one plans to use thu both on desktop and iOS, you can buy a desktop rig (at intro price) and the iOS rig equivalent is $1.
Anyway the current sale for rigs is 12.99 off of 17.99 and 19.99 off of 26.99, give or take. They are frankly overpriced, but with the sale it’s the same price as a Nembrini amp.
Got an upright bass and a balalaika, would love a 335 but they’re just across the board overpriced.
I’m still getting rigs at a decent clip, most recent being the Dang and Twin and Plexi67. I already have the boogie markv, tran30, and Fillmore50, so I’m boogied out. What I really want is the LRS Silverface rig because I want to hear the LRS take on a Fender. But it’s $20. Current desert island rigs: Dang, Bassman, Tremolux, BHS Sold, Boogie MKV, choptones Vox. We’ve talked about the legendary Dumble amps on the forum and the Dang is an awesome Dumble clone rig.
Side note: it’s funny that the new iic+ rig comes with the free 5 band eq pedal, which is $14 on its own, but THU full already comes with another sim of the same pedal…
Thanks for the reply! Super helpful. One more question for y’all, sorry this storefront is super confusing to me for some reason lol....what’s the big difference between the ‘rigs’ and the ‘bundles’? Is it just the themes? Or do the bundles come with more pedals that you can use separately? I tried looking this up and their website is not very clear on this
Bundles are their amp sims, cabinet sims, and pedals/fx. Some bundles are genre specific, other bundles have just amps or just pedals. They’re component bundles just like in any other guitar app (bias, amplitube, tonestack etc..)
The rigs are different. Rigs are based on real amp captures and come in the form of many profiles that you load into the Rig Player which is just an all purpose amp face. They also use impulse responses instead of cab sims. So a rig is basically like having an authentic sounding version of that real amp, but in the form of profiles that utilized many different mics, cabs, baked in pedals in the capture process. The best combo is pairing a good rig with all the thu pedals and fx.
Basically this means you’re on iOS playing a Kemper like profile, using an impulse response, with a world of pedals, for a fraction of the desktop cost.
@JoyceRoadStudios
Have you tried the new Bogie Mark ii C pack? I really want it for the amp profiles themselves and the amp eq pedal. Just as always wondering if it has a few good clean presets.
Oat, @JoyceRoadStudios had this to say about the Mark ii yesterday:
“ The Mesa IIC+ is an iconic amp, but it’s a bit redundant for me since I already have the Mark V rig. The IIC+ simul class channel/circuit is already inside the Mark V, with plenty of iic+ profiles. In fact, the Mark V is really versatile and has “40 years of Mesa Boogie in one amp”. It even has the “tweed” channel, which I’d assume is similar to the Mesa tweed amp. So I don’t see anything unique about the iic+ only rig, except that it comes with the Mesa 5 band eq pedal for free, $14 value on its own. Great pedal in real life.”
Of course you never know with JRS. He owns more Overloud rigs than anyone I know! 😊
Also have you listened to the Mark ii samples on the Overloud site?
https://www.overloud.com/products/choptones-bogie-iic-p
Thanks, I have now, and just bought it. It’s like my fav amp ever, and pretty much all I use in THU, (Mark V bundle + Mk ii amp with IRs) so I bought it. Love that EQ pedal. Thinking about finally getting a guitar pedal EQ. So much easier than amp controls. It’s just the more you get into guitar gear, the more bloated the front end of your pedalboard gets (gate, compressor, boost, etc) before even getting to the ‘good stuff’. Def a question of tradeoff. It’s tough keeping a board to 6 pedals. I’m at 8 now and wish I could simplify but I really can’t unless I start re-buying and getting 2-in-ones or something.
Awesome, Oat!
Yeah, the Mk iic has a ton of presets, but only 30 of the 250 were labeled as ”clean,” so I’m glad you’re enjoying it.
When I was a teen, I went to the music store with the drummer in our band and searched for a new pedal to compliment my Muff distortion. He convinced me to purchase an EQ pedal instead. Best advice I ever took!
That Boogie EQ has a very targeted range compared to most other EQs. Perfect for guitars.
The iic+ is definitely a legend from the 80s and 90s, and is the most coveted of the vintage boogies. So clearly Overloud got their hands on an actual iic+ specimen from that era. That in itself is interesting, and add to that the free emulation of the 5 band eq pedal, which does look authentically specd in terms of frequencies.
MarkV came out in 2009, and it’s considered one of their best amps. In the MarkV rig I count at least 31 iic+ profiles. So that’s why I’m not pulling the trigger. Would be interested to know what you think of the comparison between the two rigs. Also don’t know if you have the thu full pack, but there is already a boogie 5 band eq pedal in the collection. Both pedal descriptions say it’s from the Mesa amplifier, but the listed frequencies on the new pedal are more accurate. Weird…
I feel you on the pedals, it’s hard to keep the number down. I’m also at 8 pedals plus interface on my current board, I want to buy 5 more but have no room, I specifically wanted a board that was allowable carryon size with case, so no more space…
I’m very proud of this board because I have the option of going traditional, from the echoman out to a regular amp, or I can go from the volume pedal into the xtone interface instead, so into a daw and xlr out to front of house. This allows me to have all my overdrives and volume pedal front loading the interface, so I can use the volume pedal to basically set the input gain for the interface, but the overdrive tone doesn’t change since the volume is placed after the overdrives, so it lowers the volume but not the gain amount. Woolly into a Klone into xotic SL is a great overdrive chain, woolly has to go first. Can also use the volume pedal as an exp. pedal into xtone. I would like to add a graphic eq, compressor, mxr timmy, and a lil’ Mo at the end, but thankfully there’s no more space. Also, I love having the reverb before the tremolo, like the original Fender amp circuits. More interesting to me. And combining the delay setting on the Boss RV-6 with the echoman delay with modulation opens up a huge world as well. And of course having the volume pedal after overdrives but before modulations allows for great swells and trails.
I highly recommend the new Ernie Ball patch cables variety pack, and the new Fender Engine Room lvl12, dollar for dollar and spec for spec this is the best pedal power supply on the market right now.
Sweet board, JRS!
I bet the fans scream for “More Wool!!!” 🙌
LOL the only fans screaming around here are ceiling fans.
the woolly vexter is a great fuzz, both for bass and guitar. It’s the exact same circuit as the hand painted originals. Amazingly versatile, warm and bassy fuzz that can spaz out, rather than a harsh fuzz. Frankly it’s extremely overpriced for such a simple circuit, but I got a great deal on a floor model. I also learned a cool trick from the JHS pedals guy, if you engage a fuzz pedal but roll off the guitar volume you get a great boosted harmonically rich sound that’s not fuzzy. Then crank the guitar volume knob and the fuzz crashes in! One thing about the woolly is that it must go first in the chain, like most fuzzes. It doesn’t work well with a buffered pedal in front of it, or any pedal really. So if I don’t want the fuzz in my chain at all I go first into the mythical overdrive.
Side rant: I don’t understand pedalboards where the volume pedal is first or last in the chain. Having it first is redundant, because the guitar volume knob is doing the exact same thing there. And last in chain makes for a really hard cutoff, no trails no swells. I’m adamant that the perfect place for a volume pedal is after overdrives but before the modulation pedals. This way you can control the volume of the gain pedals without reducing the actual gain level and tone, and you get to cut off the modulation pedals with awesome trails or create swells.
So… should I implement this advice with a midi pedal controlling a gain widget in AUM too: Place the gain after overdrives and before modulators. I should do the same in TH-U I guess.
It just depends on what you’re after. Lowering the signal going into an overdrive, like when you have a volume pedal before an overdrive, that will lower the overdrive itself and the sound will be cleaner. But lowering the volume after an overdrive will reduce the overall volume while keeping the gain tone intact. So it’s useful for bedroom level, like when you want the tubes and gain to be roaring, but at a lower volume.
I don’t think this is that applicable in the digital world, because we have output levels and sliders at various points that we can use to lower the overall volume. The thing to remember is one component’s output is another component’s input. So you get what you feed into it.
Nice pedalboard @JoyceRoadStudios .
@McD I’m finding that a good way to combine the hardware and software is to go guitar > overdrive pedal > volume pedal > interface > thu. Thu doesn’t have input gain control, and my xtone interface doesn’t either, so the volume pedal is actually setting the input gain level going into the interface. It’s a neat trick, because the overdrive pedal is bringing a great tone right out of the gate, and I don’t need to roll off guitar knob.
So on my pedalboard the volume pedal is essentially a route choice marker. It either goes overdrives into volume into interface, or out of volume into modulation pedals into normal amp.
@flo26 Thanks! Some of us need all the help we can get for our mediocre fingers. Hope you’re well!
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Nice, immaculate pedalboard. Already use the EB patch cables, and have a Walrus 8 pedal power supply. Maybe it’s not the best (only 2 slots for pedals that require >100 mA) but this was early on into my pedal foray in which I got hooked on indie/boutique pedals (mostly Walrus…I do still love and use their chorus, phaser, flange, and 385 overdrive) instead of realizing that it’s fine and almost always preferable to rely on Boss. In fact, about to order an RV-6 to complete my stereo setup (stereo chorus>dd-500-RV6-Strymon Iridium). I’ve been agonizing over YouTube vids for the past week trying to decide the right reverb…but the answer is always Boss. I vow to try and never get sucked into the pedal market vortex again.
The Mark ii pack is comparable to the Mark V bundle for clean tones. The new dedicated Mark ii has a few with Vox cabs that I really like to bring out that plucky pick sound that the clean Mesas excel at. I would’ve bought it no matter what just to ease my mind to know I had THE Mark ii pack, since it is my fav amp. I’ll truly feel complete hardware and software wise as soon as the RV6 gets here.
The RV6 sounds amazing! Got mine used for $100. When I was going through YouTube demos I couldn’t even find one demo where the RV6 sounded bad. Some people prefer the RV5 modulate setting, others like the more delay features of RV3. But the RV6 is just stellar all around, and the one delay setting it has is nice to pair with another actual delay.
Nice to know, and yeah I do love the delay/reverb combo setting from what I’ve heard of it (which I think is also on the dd-8 or whatever version of the small box they’re on…I’ll prob eventually get a new small DD as well due to nostalgia…I worked my first summer job and saved 3 weeks (maybe more, min wage was shit back then) worth of money to go and buy my first “adult” purchase…the DD-6, which was $250 back in the early 2000s).
I hope Overloud will add this pedal to the other Mesa's rig libraries. I don't need Mark IIC+ rigs because almost all of them designed for hi gain sound and I don't need it. The real Mesa Boogie Mark V has the same EQ section on the front panel so I think it would be very customer friendly to add Mesa's EQ to this library
This is a really looong thread to read through, but i'm trying to decide between the Choptones Fender SuperReverb and the Twin65. I'm looking for warm clean tones but with a bit of dirt as well.
Reading the descriptions it says that the Twin65 has some warm clean tones, but when I listened to the demos I get more convinced by the SuperReverb. What do you guys recommend me?
And another thing, is it possible to use the rigs without an internet connection? because the app seems to require being logged in.
Thanks!
The app does not require that one be logged in or on the internet.
Good to know.. Cheers!
The Dang rig running a clean profile. Delay/reverb provided by Lunar Lander
And here is a clean Dang profile with a hint of saturation provided by Chow Centaur
The Super Reverb is darker for sure, and if you like that (I do) then it's probably the one to go for.
Thanks, I decided for the SuperReverb.. Damn!! it sounds so Alive, digital getting closer and closer and closer
Super Reverb is an excellent rig, as is the Brownface 62 that comes with one of the other bundles, like Vintage or American Classics or similar.
The Mark ii is a gigantic! pack. Plenty of clean choices this time around.
That’s so good to hear, Oat!
Have now added it to my Black Friday wish list. Will also purchase the Mark V on @JoyceRoadStudios’ recommendation as well.
You can’t go wrong with Boogie!