OT: I live in the US and I voted today!

[Deleted User]

My favorite fact about the election. 2020/666=3.0330. Biden’s campaign text number was 30330. You can’t make this stuff up

https://mobile.twitter.com/scottadamssays/status/1309184954966786049?lang=en

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@yowza said:

@rms13 said:

@espiegel123 said:

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:

@espiegel123 said:

@michael_m said:
Yes, glad we got rid of the paranoid conspiracy theorist, as this should have been a much more civilized thread than it has been for too many pages.

I just hope that America moves forward in as many ways as possible, and that we deal with the current situation with much more unity now.

Whether America can heal some of its divisions will sadly depend a lot on our own paranoid conspiracy theorists. Trump has taken paranoid conspiracies mainstream. If the GOP keeps the “stolen election” whispers alive (as seems to be the case), healing will be minimal.

That’s true, but we can hope that once the “stolen election” bullshit has died down that there can be progress. Those type of theories have always been there, but without the platform of the presidency, I would think that Trump isn’t going to be doing much to push them anymore.

Why will it die down. It never died down for the Dems after Trump stole the election for HRC. I would expect 4 years of trying to impeach Biden or trying to invoke the 25th amendment calling him unfit for office. The only reason I don’t think they will relentlessly attack Biden the way they did Trump is because most people on the right think a Harris presidency would be much more dangerous than a Biden one. I think there is a divide that will only get deeper and a peaceful separation into two counties is the best outcome at this point.

Most people on the left don’t think the election was “stolen” in 2016...at least not in the sense of some fraud. There were widespread concerns that James Comey’s actions influenced the outcome and widespread discontent (which this election won’t have cured) that the electoral college has given a disproportionate voice to a non-representative population. The fact that this election was “close” demonstrates the truth of that latter concern.

You don’t remember Russiagate?

What about it? It was real.

So now you're here to fill the role of junior conspiracy theorist?

I was responding to the person who said that most people on the left don’t think the 2016 election was stolen.

What role are you here to fill?

[Deleted User]

@rms13 said:

@yowza said:

@rms13 said:

@espiegel123 said:

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:

@espiegel123 said:

@michael_m said:
Yes, glad we got rid of the paranoid conspiracy theorist, as this should have been a much more civilized thread than it has been for too many pages.

I just hope that America moves forward in as many ways as possible, and that we deal with the current situation with much more unity now.

Whether America can heal some of its divisions will sadly depend a lot on our own paranoid conspiracy theorists. Trump has taken paranoid conspiracies mainstream. If the GOP keeps the “stolen election” whispers alive (as seems to be the case), healing will be minimal.

That’s true, but we can hope that once the “stolen election” bullshit has died down that there can be progress. Those type of theories have always been there, but without the platform of the presidency, I would think that Trump isn’t going to be doing much to push them anymore.

Why will it die down. It never died down for the Dems after Trump stole the election for HRC. I would expect 4 years of trying to impeach Biden or trying to invoke the 25th amendment calling him unfit for office. The only reason I don’t think they will relentlessly attack Biden the way they did Trump is because most people on the right think a Harris presidency would be much more dangerous than a Biden one. I think there is a divide that will only get deeper and a peaceful separation into two counties is the best outcome at this point.

Most people on the left don’t think the election was “stolen” in 2016...at least not in the sense of some fraud. There were widespread concerns that James Comey’s actions influenced the outcome and widespread discontent (which this election won’t have cured) that the electoral college has given a disproportionate voice to a non-representative population. The fact that this election was “close” demonstrates the truth of that latter concern.

You don’t remember Russiagate?

What about it? It was real.

So now you're here to fill the role of junior conspiracy theorist?

I was responding to the person who said that most people on the left don’t think the 2016 election was stolen.

CracklePot

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@michael_m said:
Let’s at least try to start on the right foot. Things might go wrong, but i wouldn’t underestimate Biden’s years in Congress and the relationships he’s built over the years.

As for a Harris presidency, I do wonder what the real reason for Trump supporters thinking it is so dangerous - she’s certainly not on the “radical left” as Trump so often states.

Just look at her.
You know why they are scared of her.

You are right about Biden having lots of old GOP buddies.
Some have already congratulated him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he puts some in his Cabinet.
That would suck tremendously.

He said he would have Republicans on his staff if he won during his campaign. Cabinet members have no power just as the President doesn’t really have power. It’s all a dog and pony show so it doesn’t really matter.

If that is true, you should tell the Trump supporters that before they start their civil war.

[Deleted User]

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@michael_m said:
Let’s at least try to start on the right foot. Things might go wrong, but i wouldn’t underestimate Biden’s years in Congress and the relationships he’s built over the years.

As for a Harris presidency, I do wonder what the real reason for Trump supporters thinking it is so dangerous - she’s certainly not on the “radical left” as Trump so often states.

Just look at her.
You know why they are scared of her.

You are right about Biden having lots of old GOP buddies.
Some have already congratulated him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he puts some in his Cabinet.
That would suck tremendously.

He said he would have Republicans on his staff if he won during his campaign. Cabinet members have no power just as the President doesn’t really have power. It’s all a dog and pony show so it doesn’t really matter.

If that is true, you should tell the Trump supporters that before they start their civil war.

I’m pretty sure the people on both sides of the civil war don’t care about anyone that is in office elected, appointed or otherwise. The people that want civil war want to tear down the entire system and start from scratch.

Liquidmantis

Thus begins the second wave of this thread.

Fingolfinzzz

cian

@yowza said:

@rms13 said:

You don’t remember Russiagate?

What about it? It was real.

It really wasn’t. Weirdly the last 2 remaining bits (Wikileaks and the trump dossier) were demolished in the final week of this election. Nobody much noticed but there were good stories in buzzfeed and Medusa on these.

I also remember, because apparently it’s my curse to remember stuff like this, various democrats making semi serious attempts to get electoral voters to switch to Hillary. The Trump freak out is way worse, but the Democratic response in 2016 wasn’t very dignified either.

CracklePot

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@michael_m said:
Let’s at least try to start on the right foot. Things might go wrong, but i wouldn’t underestimate Biden’s years in Congress and the relationships he’s built over the years.

As for a Harris presidency, I do wonder what the real reason for Trump supporters thinking it is so dangerous - she’s certainly not on the “radical left” as Trump so often states.

Just look at her.
You know why they are scared of her.

You are right about Biden having lots of old GOP buddies.
Some have already congratulated him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he puts some in his Cabinet.
That would suck tremendously.

He said he would have Republicans on his staff if he won during his campaign. Cabinet members have no power just as the President doesn’t really have power. It’s all a dog and pony show so it doesn’t really matter.

If that is true, you should tell the Trump supporters that before they start their civil war.

I’m pretty sure the people on both sides of the civil war don’t care about anyone that is in office elected, appointed or otherwise. The people that want civil war want to tear down the entire system and start from scratch.

Pretty sure?
Based on what?
Trump supporters are all about if he wins or not.
The other side of the war is about systemic racism, so they might not necessarily care about Biden, but they sure as hell do not want Trump.

[Deleted User]

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@michael_m said:
Let’s at least try to start on the right foot. Things might go wrong, but i wouldn’t underestimate Biden’s years in Congress and the relationships he’s built over the years.

As for a Harris presidency, I do wonder what the real reason for Trump supporters thinking it is so dangerous - she’s certainly not on the “radical left” as Trump so often states.

Just look at her.
You know why they are scared of her.

You are right about Biden having lots of old GOP buddies.
Some have already congratulated him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he puts some in his Cabinet.
That would suck tremendously.

He said he would have Republicans on his staff if he won during his campaign. Cabinet members have no power just as the President doesn’t really have power. It’s all a dog and pony show so it doesn’t really matter.

If that is true, you should tell the Trump supporters that before they start their civil war.

I’m pretty sure the people on both sides of the civil war don’t care about anyone that is in office elected, appointed or otherwise. The people that want civil war want to tear down the entire system and start from scratch.

Pretty sure?
Based on what?
Trump supporters are all about if he wins or not.
The other side of the war is about systemic racism, so they might not necessarily care about Biden, but they sure as hell do not want Trump.

99% of the global population will happily go along with whatever their “leaders” tell them. The other 1% will probably lead to increased terrorist attacks but there aren’t enough people that are passionate enough about anything to lead to a real civil war. In reality the most likely outcome is a globalist one world government and that’s where we are headed. Build back better!

yowza

@cian said:

@yowza said:

@rms13 said:

You don’t remember Russiagate?

What about it? It was real.

It really wasn’t. Weirdly the last 2 remaining bits (Wikileaks and the trump dossier) were demolished in the final week of this election. Nobody much noticed but there were good stories in buzzfeed and Medusa on these.

I also remember, because apparently it’s my curse to remember stuff like this, various democrats making semi serious attempts to get electoral voters to switch to Hillary. The Trump freak out is way worse, but the Democratic response in 2016 wasn’t very dignified either.

Hmm well the bipartisan (means both political parties) Senate report did confirm that Russiagate happened so...
Funny I can't any recent articles on Buzzfeed or Medusa having to do with Russiagate...

If you're going to assert something provide sources. My mind is open to change but I haven't seen any proof to change it.

ExAsperis99

@cian said:

@yowza said:

@rms13 said:

You don’t remember Russiagate?

What about it? It was real.

It really wasn’t. Weirdly the last 2 remaining bits (Wikileaks and the trump dossier) were demolished in the final week of this election. Nobody much noticed but there were good stories in buzzfeed and Medusa on these.

I also remember, because apparently it’s my curse to remember stuff like this, various democrats making semi serious attempts to get electoral voters to switch to Hillary. The Trump freak out is way worse, but the Democratic response in 2016 wasn’t very dignified either.

Quite true. I actually have a track from that period called “Faithless Elector,” I’m mildly embarrassed to admit.

michael_m

There won’t be any civil war. I was promised by so many people there would be a civil war in 2008 if Obama was elected, and there was nothing. It sounds like exactly the same rhetoric this time.

A lot of complaining and men with small genitals posturing with assault rifles is probably all that will happen.

[Deleted User]

@michael_m said:
There won’t be any civil war. I was promised by so many people there would be a civil war in 2008 if Obama was elected, and there was nothing. It sounds like exactly the same rhetoric this time.

A lot of complaining and men with small genitals posturing with assault rifles is probably all that will happen.

What about all the pink haired she and theys on the far left? Those are the ones that seem to be really trying to accelerate things. I’ve yet to see any men with small dicks and big rifles rioting and burning down cities like Antifa and BLM have been doing for the past 150+ days

espiegel123

Pro tip: when someone starts using phrases like “mask nazis”, their view of the world is probably not primarily shaped by reasoned an> @rms13 said:

@espiegel123 said:

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:

@espiegel123 said:

@michael_m said:
Yes, glad we got rid of the paranoid conspiracy theorist, as this should have been a much more civilized thread than it has been for too many pages.

I just hope that America moves forward in as many ways as possible, and that we deal with the current situation with much more unity now.

Whether America can heal some of its divisions will sadly depend a lot on our own paranoid conspiracy theorists. Trump has taken paranoid conspiracies mainstream. If the GOP keeps the “stolen election” whispers alive (as seems to be the case), healing will be minimal.

That’s true, but we can hope that once the “stolen election” bullshit has died down that there can be progress. Those type of theories have always been there, but without the platform of the presidency, I would think that Trump isn’t going to be doing much to push them anymore.

Why will it die down. It never died down for the Dems after Trump stole the election for HRC. I would expect 4 years of trying to impeach Biden or trying to invoke the 25th amendment calling him unfit for office. The only reason I don’t think they will relentlessly attack Biden the way they did Trump is because most people on the right think a Harris presidency would be much more dangerous than a Biden one. I think there is a divide that will only get deeper and a peaceful separation into two counties is the best outcome at this point.

Most people on the left don’t think the election was “stolen” in 2016...at least not in the sense of some fraud. There were widespread concerns that James Comey’s actions influenced the outcome and widespread discontent (which this election won’t have cured) that the electoral college has given a disproportionate voice to a non-representative population. The fact that this election was “close” demonstrates the truth of that latter concern.

You don’t remember Russiagate?

What part? I don’t believe that people on the left think the Russians stole the election.,I have literally not heard anyone say that. A lot of people believe (and this seems well documented) that Russia wanted Trump to win and engaged in tactics to influence opinion. Even Republicans in the Senate agree with that assessment.

That is very different from Trump’s unsubstantiated claims that there were millions of fraudulent votes in 2016 and enough to sway the election in 2020. He has offered no substantiation for those claims.

CracklePot

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@michael_m said:
Let’s at least try to start on the right foot. Things might go wrong, but i wouldn’t underestimate Biden’s years in Congress and the relationships he’s built over the years.

As for a Harris presidency, I do wonder what the real reason for Trump supporters thinking it is so dangerous - she’s certainly not on the “radical left” as Trump so often states.

Just look at her.
You know why they are scared of her.

You are right about Biden having lots of old GOP buddies.
Some have already congratulated him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he puts some in his Cabinet.
That would suck tremendously.

He said he would have Republicans on his staff if he won during his campaign. Cabinet members have no power just as the President doesn’t really have power. It’s all a dog and pony show so it doesn’t really matter.

If that is true, you should tell the Trump supporters that before they start their civil war.

I’m pretty sure the people on both sides of the civil war don’t care about anyone that is in office elected, appointed or otherwise. The people that want civil war want to tear down the entire system and start from scratch.

Pretty sure?
Based on what?
Trump supporters are all about if he wins or not.
The other side of the war is about systemic racism, so they might not necessarily care about Biden, but they sure as hell do not want Trump.

99% of the global population will happily go along with whatever their “leaders” tell them. The other 1% will probably lead to increased terrorist attacks but there aren’t enough people that are passionate enough about anything to lead to a real civil war. In reality the most likely outcome is a globalist one world government and that’s where we are headed. Build back better!

You need to update your stats.
The result of this election shows it to be nearly 50/50 with each half viewing different people as leaders.

And if you think so many will happily go along with whatever their leader tells them, then what do you think will happen when that leader calls for civil war?
He is not calling for that outright, yet, but by refusing to concede and persisting with the claims of election fraud, it is strongly implied.

He may claim he is trying to use the courts, not violence, but he should strongly voice that to his seething mob if he truly does not want violence.

But, who are we trying to kid. Trump would love to see blood on American streets shed in his name, as long as he is safely locked away in the White House bunker.

[Deleted User]

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@rms13 said:

@CracklePot said:

@michael_m said:
Let’s at least try to start on the right foot. Things might go wrong, but i wouldn’t underestimate Biden’s years in Congress and the relationships he’s built over the years.

As for a Harris presidency, I do wonder what the real reason for Trump supporters thinking it is so dangerous - she’s certainly not on the “radical left” as Trump so often states.

Just look at her.
You know why they are scared of her.

You are right about Biden having lots of old GOP buddies.
Some have already congratulated him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he puts some in his Cabinet.
That would suck tremendously.

He said he would have Republicans on his staff if he won during his campaign. Cabinet members have no power just as the President doesn’t really have power. It’s all a dog and pony show so it doesn’t really matter.

If that is true, you should tell the Trump supporters that before they start their civil war.

I’m pretty sure the people on both sides of the civil war don’t care about anyone that is in office elected, appointed or otherwise. The people that want civil war want to tear down the entire system and start from scratch.

Pretty sure?
Based on what?
Trump supporters are all about if he wins or not.
The other side of the war is about systemic racism, so they might not necessarily care about Biden, but they sure as hell do not want Trump.

99% of the global population will happily go along with whatever their “leaders” tell them. The other 1% will probably lead to increased terrorist attacks but there aren’t enough people that are passionate enough about anything to lead to a real civil war. In reality the most likely outcome is a globalist one world government and that’s where we are headed. Build back better!

You need to update your stats.
The result of this election shows it to be nearly 50/50 with each half viewing different people as leaders.

And if you think so many will happily go along with whatever their leader tells them, then what do you think will happen when that leader calls for civil war?
He is not calling for that outright, yet, but by refusing to concede and persisting with the claims of election fraud, it is strongly implied.

He may claim he is trying to use the courts, not violence, but he should strongly voice that to his seething mob if he truly does not want violence.

But, who are we trying to kid. Trump would love to see blood on American streets shed in his name, as long as he is safely locked away in the White House bunker.

Do you seriously think that if Trump called for Civil War anyone would show up? Maybe you’d get a couple hundred loose cannons but most people don’t care about anything enough to go get slaughtered by the strongest military in the world.

michael_m

This looks like it’s planned a thousand times better than anything Trump did in his time in office, and this is before Biden even takes office:

https://buildbackbetter.com/priorities/covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3tXHqJ-538pc2D51Kr-uKhaN1anQM6omIrXKtMW6m3YrpOcy1ASt3m7Ro

yowza

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
There won’t be any civil war. I was promised by so many people there would be a civil war in 2008 if Obama was elected, and there was nothing. It sounds like exactly the same rhetoric this time.

A lot of complaining and men with small genitals posturing with assault rifles is probably all that will happen.

What about all the pink haired she and theys on the far left? Those are the ones that seem to be really trying to accelerate things. I’ve yet to see any men with small dicks and big rifles rioting and burning down cities like Antifa and BLM have been doing for the past 150+ days

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
There won’t be any civil war. I was promised by so many people there would be a civil war in 2008 if Obama was elected, and there was nothing. It sounds like exactly the same rhetoric this time.

A lot of complaining and men with small genitals posturing with assault rifles is probably all that will happen.

What about all the pink haired she and theys on the far left? Those are the ones that seem to be really trying to accelerate things. I’ve yet to see any men with small dicks and big rifles rioting and burning down cities like Antifa and BLM have been doing for the past 150+ days

You mean the booger eater and proud boys killing cops with guns and setting fires during protests so that BLM and Antifa get the blame don't count as men with small dicks and big rifles? I bet you think Rittenhouse was just defending himself too?

It looks like I might get to use the forum ignore feature again.

[Deleted User]

@michael_m said:
This looks like it’s planned a thousand times better than anything Trump did in his time in office, and this is before Biden even takes office:

https://buildbackbetter.com/priorities/covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3tXHqJ-538pc2D51Kr-uKhaN1anQM6omIrXKtMW6m3YrpOcy1ASt3m7Ro

I suggest everyone research Build Back Better. This is a the globalist plan. The phrase had been thrown around by the WHO and most leaders of western countries and tech company elite for months. But really everyone should listen to the No Agenda Podcast with Adam Curry and John C Dvorak because they have been deconstructing it since the beginning

[Deleted User]

@yowza said:

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
There won’t be any civil war. I was promised by so many people there would be a civil war in 2008 if Obama was elected, and there was nothing. It sounds like exactly the same rhetoric this time.

A lot of complaining and men with small genitals posturing with assault rifles is probably all that will happen.

What about all the pink haired she and theys on the far left? Those are the ones that seem to be really trying to accelerate things. I’ve yet to see any men with small dicks and big rifles rioting and burning down cities like Antifa and BLM have been doing for the past 150+ days

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
There won’t be any civil war. I was promised by so many people there would be a civil war in 2008 if Obama was elected, and there was nothing. It sounds like exactly the same rhetoric this time.

A lot of complaining and men with small genitals posturing with assault rifles is probably all that will happen.

What about all the pink haired she and theys on the far left? Those are the ones that seem to be really trying to accelerate things. I’ve yet to see any men with small dicks and big rifles rioting and burning down cities like Antifa and BLM have been doing for the past 150+ days

You mean the booger eater and proud boys killing cops with guns and setting fires during protests so that BLM and Antifa get the blame don't count as men with small dicks and big rifles? I bet you think Rittenhouse was just defending himself too?

It looks like I might get to use the forum ignore feature again.

Ok...

michael_m

Isn’t John C Dvorak that guy who predicted that the iPhone would be a colossal failure that would destroy Apple?

Think I’ll go to someone else for their opinions...

espiegel123

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
This looks like it’s planned a thousand times better than anything Trump did in his time in office, and this is before Biden even takes office:

https://buildbackbetter.com/priorities/covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3tXHqJ-538pc2D51Kr-uKhaN1anQM6omIrXKtMW6m3YrpOcy1ASt3m7Ro

I suggest everyone research Build Back Better. This is a the globalist plan. The phrase had been thrown around by the WHO and most leaders of western countries and tech company elite for months. But really everyone should listen to the No Agenda Podcast with Adam Curry and John C Dvorak because they have been deconstructing it since the beginning

Who are “the globalists”? Do you include Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump amongst them? Rupert Murdoch.

People seem to use “globalist” as a vague catchall for whatever international business people they don’t like or some murky cabal.

yowza

@espiegel123 said:

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
This looks like it’s planned a thousand times better than anything Trump did in his time in office, and this is before Biden even takes office:

https://buildbackbetter.com/priorities/covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3tXHqJ-538pc2D51Kr-uKhaN1anQM6omIrXKtMW6m3YrpOcy1ASt3m7Ro

I suggest everyone research Build Back Better. This is a the globalist plan. The phrase had been thrown around by the WHO and most leaders of western countries and tech company elite for months. But really everyone should listen to the No Agenda Podcast with Adam Curry and John C Dvorak because they have been deconstructing it since the beginning

Who are “the globalists”? Do you include Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump amongst them? Rupert Murdoch.

People seem to use “globalist” as a vague catchall for whatever international business people they don’t like or some murky cabal.

Yeah globalism is that far right wing nut conspiracy theory (there's that pesky conspiracy word again). It appears that's all the trolls have to offer.

[Deleted User]

@michael_m said:
Isn’t John C Dvorak that guy who predicted that the iPhone would be a colossal failure that would destroy Apple?

Think I’ll go to someone else for their opinions...

Nope. He was critical of the iPad and the mouse. But they do a great show and play news that you never hear in the mainstream media.

michael_m

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
Isn’t John C Dvorak that guy who predicted that the iPhone would be a colossal failure that would destroy Apple?

Think I’ll go to someone else for their opinions...

Nope. He was critical of the iPad and the mouse. But they do a great show and play news that you never hear in the mainstream media.

Just checked it out:

“ There is no likelihood that Apple can be successful in a business this competitive.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-should-pull-the-plug-on-the-iphone

Yeah, I think I’ll pass on his opinions.

michael_m

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
Isn’t John C Dvorak that guy who predicted that the iPhone would be a colossal failure that would destroy Apple?

Think I’ll go to someone else for their opinions...

Nope. He was critical of the iPad and the mouse. But they do a great show and play news that you never hear in the mainstream media.

I didn’t realize he was wrong on the iPad in the emerging tablet market too:

“ The likelihood the winner will be Apple this time is low.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/apples-ipad-is-far-from-a-sure-thing-2010-03-26

Definitely not someone to go to for opinions...

[Deleted User]

@michael_m said:

@rms13 said:

@michael_m said:
Isn’t John C Dvorak that guy who predicted that the iPhone would be a colossal failure that would destroy Apple?

Think I’ll go to someone else for their opinions...

Nope. He was critical of the iPad and the mouse. But they do a great show and play news that you never hear in the mainstream media.

I didn’t realize he was wrong on the iPad in the emerging tablet market too:

“ The likelihood the winner will be Apple this time is low.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/apples-ipad-is-far-from-a-sure-thing-2010-03-26

Definitely not someone to go to for opinions...

To each their own.

SNystrom

Dvorak was one of those silly MS-DOS nerd supremacists who insisted on printing his college papers on dot-matrics printers while mine were exquisitely formatted on a Mac with PageMaker with actual fonts and printed on the library Laserprinter.

michael_m

I think a man who predicted that the iPhone would fail and take down Apple isn’t someone to go to for opinions on presidential planning.