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No, but it works fine for me in iOS 13.7
Are you having a problem? If so, what.
I’m using an audio clip of my guitar into midi guitar>Electric Vintage for keys. Works well!
@ALB Channel 2 should show the orange dot in the middle of the three line icon to the left of Electric Vintage to denote that it's receiving MIDI from MIDI Guitar, yes?
I did one were I run Voice Bot with guitar chords, AUM only. Fun as F. Don't know how to upload videos direct though.
korakios: YEA midi out in standalone works for me! external gear you just need I rig or some camera kit to usb midi business.
I did this last night, too. I sat and amused myself for a good half hour. The VoiceBot preset I use is called "ChordMaker" although I tweak to taste.
More generally, I suggest using busses for MG in AUM (voice bot, too!) for maximum flexibility with using the live signal too.
In this example, the left channel is guitar line in via Zoom interface and the right is the vocal mic.
cool cool. i may have to do the in app purchase. do you have to buy both in app purchase to use it in aum?
Great, thanks, yeah I had the same setup pretty much. I used "Change2" though - which say "Change is in the Air" so appropriate I thought
I don't know, I already had the full purchase. There seem to be no clear answer reading earlier posts.
Indeed, much needed change. I'll try that one.
I too would like to understand what the minimum IAPs to be able to use midi out in AUM are. I don't ever plan to use it in standalone and don't care about the internal synth.
Has anyone asked JamOrigin?
I'd think one way to find out is to purchase the base level IAP and see if it adds the abilities you need. If I recall correctly, you need that base level IAP for any of the others.
I like fully knowing what I'm in for before spending anything. If no-one knows here, then if I get on a buying whim and feel like I want this enough, I will go to the trouble of contacting them.
You need to purchase the "Midi Output" IAP before you can purchase the "Plug-in and hosting" IAP
If you haven't got the "Midi Output" IAP, then nothing happens when you try to purchase the "Plug-in and hosting" IAP
Thanks for clarifying that. 👍
Thanks @White. I don't see any "Plug-in and hosting" IAP in the App Store description. I only see "AudioUnit Hosting". Are the IAPs named differently in the app, and are you sure the one you referenced is needed in order to be able only host MG2 in another app. I have no need of hosting AUs in the app itself.
Actually ... nvm. I'm not spending $19.99 - $29.98 for this anyway. Sorry everyone ... I should have checked the prices before bothering to ask.
Here a little demo of what can be done using MIDI Guitar (sending live midi to Electric Vintage)
Original video
/mistake, sorry/
@cuscolima that's lovely. Lovely song too. It's be cool to see the looks on peoples' faces hearing that coming out of a guitar in a live situation
Thanks
Does it work with virtual midi ports too or it has to be external hardware ?
Yes. I had some other midi routing going on that was more complicated, so I got rid of it In the interest of clarity for the pic.
Bought all IAP.
Even at 64 samples/48k it is a lot of latency. ☹️
Breaks Garageband too lol.
Kinda figures. In order to detect pitch reliably you have to have some number of wave cycles to work with. You can't just work real-time. There has to be some delay. Too short and pitch detection will be all over the place. Too long and it feels unworkable.
I also think that lower buffer sizes may not help like they do with other apps. Given that a certain number of samples must be received either way, getting them in smaller chunks may be no help at all. It could even make it worse.
I don't think any midi pitch detection app is going to be palatable for people that don't have a fairly high tolerance for latency.
I suppose “a lot” depends on what one is comparing it to. There is, as wim pointed, inherent latency in any pitch to midi conversion because you have to receive enough audio to analyze, do the analysis, and the then the receiving synth’s latency will be added.
The latency is larger than for a decent amp sim at low buffer. I find the latency tolerable for what one gets in return. It seems to be on the order of 15 to 20 ms in addition to the buffer latency.
I think I just worked out that the previous two iaps I bought don’t let me use this as an AU as it times out after a bit when loaded into AUM. Unless there’s a compelling reason to use it in that way I might just stick with it in standalone as it works perfectly well that way...
If you use MG set up the same way in every session (I suspect many do) there really isn't much reason to implement the AUv3 version, as you suggest. If you use different settings and synths in sessions, then might make sense to have it saved in the AUM or AB3 session for one button recall.
I played with the AUv3 version in AUM last night and detected no discernible latency difference from the standalone version (which I’ve used for years).
Yeah I think it’s good as it is, I’m currently trying to make a little mosaic script that translates the output into multi channel / mpe that can be used to control the Swam instruments in Geoshred
For me it's so much easier, it's a huge usability difference. All that extra faffing around meant I used it only rarely and only then when I'd made a specific plan in advance to do some guitar to midi. Now in AUM, when I've a got guitar channel anyway, I can just pop the AUv3 on an FX slot at the slightest synth wizardry whim and off we go - I don't even have to look at the midi guitar app, no more "now, how did this work again?".
£10 to liberate what you've already spent, well worth it I reckon.
@steve99 you’re probably right, I’ll see how much it bothers me as time goes on