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MIDI Guitar is now an audio unit!

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  • GrimLuckyGrimLucky

    @steve99 said:

    @Krupa said:
    I think I just worked out that the previous two iaps I bought don’t let me use this as an AU as it times out after a bit when loaded into AUM. Unless there’s a compelling reason to use it in that way I might just stick with it in standalone as it works perfectly well that way...

    For me it's so much easier, it's a huge usability difference. All that extra faffing around meant I used it only rarely and only then when I'd made a specific plan in advance to do some guitar to midi. Now in AUM, when I've a got guitar channel anyway, I can just pop the AUv3 on an FX slot at the slightest synth wizardry whim and off we go - I don't even have to look at the midi guitar app, no more "now, how did this work again?".

    £10 to liberate what you've already spent, well worth it I reckon.

    Sold!
    I was edging towards getting this anyway and tbh I haven’t used MG for a while so this might give it a new lease of life.

    Was also thinking that MG can now host BeatHawk and record into each pad, will give this a try later.

  • royorroyor

    @steve99 said:

    @Krupa said:
    I think I just worked out that the previous two iaps I bought don’t let me use this as an AU as it times out after a bit when loaded into AUM. Unless there’s a compelling reason to use it in that way I might just stick with it in standalone as it works perfectly well that way...

    For me it's so much easier, it's a huge usability difference. All that extra faffing around meant I used it only rarely and only then when I'd made a specific plan in advance to do some guitar to midi. Now in AUM, when I've a got guitar channel anyway, I can just pop the AUv3 on an FX slot at the slightest synth wizardry whim and off we go - I don't even have to look at the midi guitar app, no more "now, how did this work again?".

    £10 to liberate what you've already spent, well worth it I reckon.

    Absolutely worth it for that and not having to switch screens..👍 when I’m in AUM, I want to stay in AUM.. 😁 OR give me a back-to-AUM button..

  • jassyjassy

    The beauty to have it in AUv3 format is the ability to load with total recall of all the parameters required for every situation.
    Gate, mono/poly, pitch bend, legato, aftertouch, gain, tone, curve, midi fx.... ETC all that can change and be optimized depending the guitar used, the synth, the patch, the sound required and many other factors.
    Very important at least to me.

  • SNystromSNystrom

    Looks like there will be a live YouTube video on it starting shortly:

    Not familiar with Jade Starr, though...

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    BTW, in the past, I have only use MG for the MIDI, but last night I was noticing that as an amp sim, if you keep it clean and use its internal chorus, it sounds a lot more like a JC-120 than the one found in the amps sims I've checked out (if one sticks to clean guitar with chorus)

    p.s. I have a JC-120

  • SNystromSNystrom

    Live video begins in three hours...

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Krupa said:
    I think I just worked out that the previous two iaps I bought don’t let me use this as an AU as it times out after a bit when loaded into AUM. Unless there’s a compelling reason to use it in that way I might just stick with it in standalone as it works perfectly well that way...

    Which IAP is the one needed to use it as an AU? It has come up in this thread and would be of interest to people considering MG.

  • KrupaKrupa

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Krupa said:
    I think I just worked out that the previous two iaps I bought don’t let me use this as an AU as it times out after a bit when loaded into AUM. Unless there’s a compelling reason to use it in that way I might just stick with it in standalone as it works perfectly well that way...

    Which IAP is the one needed to use it as an AU? It has come up in this thread and would be of interest to people considering MG.

    The one that I’m missing is the last in the shop, ‘plug in and hosting’

  • SNystromSNystrom

    Okay, so I must admit that live video was kinda out there, but towards the end he used a mic as an input device and it was kinda cool!

    Again in a sort of out there kinda way...

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    In AUM it’s on the AU effects page as a music effect. Load your audio input/interface in the top slot then load MIDI gtr as an effect. Then put your synth on another track and use the hamburger icon next to it to connect MIDI guitar.

  • VaultnaemsaeVaultnaemsae
    edited November 2020

    @wim said:

    @White said:
    You need to purchase the "Midi Output" IAP before you can purchase the "Plug-in and hosting" IAP

    If you haven't got the "Midi Output" IAP, then nothing happens when you try to purchase the "Plug-in and hosting" IAP

    Thanks @White. I don't see any "Plug-in and hosting" IAP in the App Store description. I only see "AudioUnit Hosting". Are the IAPs named differently in the app, and are you sure the one you referenced is needed in order to be able only host MG2 in another app. I have no need of hosting AUs in the app itself.

    Actually ... nvm. I'm not spending $19.99 - $29.98 for this anyway. Sorry everyone ... I should have checked the prices before bothering to ask.

    @Krupa said:
    I think I just worked out that the previous two iaps I bought don’t let me use this as an AU as it times out after a bit when loaded into AUM. Unless there’s a compelling reason to use it in that way I might just stick with it in standalone as it works perfectly well that way...

    Which IAP is the one needed to use it as an AU? It has come up in this thread and would be of interest to people considering MG.

    I'm pretty sure the developer said on the Jam Origin forum that the 'plugin and hosting' IAP would enable the use of MG2 AUv3 in your host -- he mentioned that they/he decided not to charge extra for it.

    The developer is doing some great work, albeit rather slow, and there's no other comparable software solution on the market. I used MG2 (both iOS and desktop version) when I was doing live work and it's crazy good used in combination with a host/DAW.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @royor said:

    when I’m in AUM, I want to stay in AUM.. 😁 OR give me a back-to-AUM button..

    There is! There must be, coz I have it mapped.

  • KorakiosKorakios

    @Korakios said:

    @oceansinspace said:
    korakios: YEA midi out in standalone works for me! external gear you just need I rig or some camera kit to usb midi business.

    Thanks :) Does it work with virtual midi ports too or it has to be external hardware ?

    To anyone who has not bought AU IAP, can you assign midi out to a virtual port?

  • KrupaKrupa

    I just uploaded this patch that maps MG2 to multiple instances of geoshred so that you can play chords - mainly so that I can play the new violins and cellos with it...

    https://patchstorage.com/gmg-chord/

    very basic for now but I hope to make it work better in time...instructions are on the patch page but hit me up if you need help :)

  • cuscolimacuscolima

    @Krupa said:
    I just uploaded this patch that maps MG2 to multiple instances of geoshred so that you can play chords - mainly so that I can play the new violins and cellos with it...

    https://patchstorage.com/gmg-chord/

    very basic for now but I hope to make it work better in time...instructions are on the patch page but hit me up if you need help :)

    It works good ! Thanks for this

  • KrupaKrupa

    @cuscolima said:

    @Krupa said:
    I just uploaded this patch that maps MG2 to multiple instances of geoshred so that you can play chords - mainly so that I can play the new violins and cellos with it...

    https://patchstorage.com/gmg-chord/

    very basic for now but I hope to make it work better in time...instructions are on the patch page but hit me up if you need help :)

    It works good ! Thanks for this

    Sweet, good to know it works for you :)

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @Krupa said:
    I just uploaded this patch that maps MG2 to multiple instances of geoshred so that you can play chords - mainly so that I can play the new violins and cellos with it...

    https://patchstorage.com/gmg-chord/

    very basic for now but I hope to make it work better in time...instructions are on the patch page but hit me up if you need help :)

    Sweet, thank you!

  • KrupaKrupa

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Krupa said:
    I just uploaded this patch that maps MG2 to multiple instances of geoshred so that you can play chords - mainly so that I can play the new violins and cellos with it...

    https://patchstorage.com/gmg-chord/

    very basic for now but I hope to make it work better in time...instructions are on the patch page but hit me up if you need help :)

    Sweet, thank you!

    👍👍

  • charalewcharalew

    So after upgrading to 14.2 I did some more messing around and got it working in AUM by (1) creating audio channel set to iPad Mic as input (just to test) (2) Adding MIDI Guitar as an Audio FX (3) Routing it's Midi output to a separate AU Instrument.

    That works fine as proof of concept but still can't see any way to use it in Zenbeats. If you add it as an Audio FX on an Audio Track there's no way to route the MIDI output to an instrument track. If you add it as a MIDI FX on an instrument track it can't receive the audio!

    So unless I'm missing something obvious, this only works in AUM and can't be used in an actual DAW?

  • GrimLuckyGrimLucky

    I think the only DAW that allows this type of routing is Auria Pro

  • charalewcharalew

    @GrimLucky said:
    I think the only DAW that allows this type of routing is Auria Pro

    Right - that makes sense then thanks. Will have to stick with the stand-alone version for now.

  • josh83josh83

    @mistercharlie said:
    You can put in the the FX slot of an audio lane in AUM. Very nice.

    https://apps.apple.com/es/app/midi-guitar/id523095780?l=en

    Woohooo!! I already have a Fishman TriplePlay Connect, but MG2 supporting AUv3 convinced me now to buy it, too (for e.g. when traveling and not having my default guitar available). Thanks!!

  • KrupaKrupa

    I’ve recently found that this app isn’t working for me anymore in the MIDI department. In both standalone and as an au, I can see audio going in, and can process it through the amp section but it’s not triggering any notes. I can’t even see any indicators in the velocity section. I’m on iPad Pro still running 13.x

    Anyone else noticing similar issues?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Krupa said:
    I’ve recently found that this app isn’t working for me anymore in the MIDI department. In both standalone and as an au, I can see audio going in, and can process it through the amp section but it’s not triggering any notes. I can’t even see any indicators in the velocity section. I’m on iPad Pro still running 13.x

    Anyone else noticing similar issues?

    I guess AU haven’t used it in a while. Not working for me iOS 13.7. I can’t even trigger the internal synth. MIDI goes out if I play notes on the MG keyboard, but no audio to MIDI happening.

  • KrupaKrupa
    edited February 2021

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Krupa said:
    I’ve recently found that this app isn’t working for me anymore in the MIDI department. In both standalone and as an au, I can see audio going in, and can process it through the amp section but it’s not triggering any notes. I can’t even see any indicators in the velocity section. I’m on iPad Pro still running 13.x

    Anyone else noticing similar issues?

    I guess AU haven’t used it in a while. Not working for me iOS 13.7. I can’t even trigger the internal synth. MIDI goes out if I play notes on the MG keyboard, but no audio to MIDI happening.

    Good to know, bad to hear, I’ve reported it in their forum but there was already a weeks old complaint from someone else reporting similar with no response to that, I’ll hunt out an email address later... cheers @espiegel123

    Edit, and like I’ve wakened them up, just has a response on the forum there...

  • ArtairArtair

    Just checked on the last ios version, sending audio from iFretless bass to midi guitar,working as it should be

  • KrupaKrupa

    @Artair said:
    Just checked on the last ios version, sending audio from iFretless bass to midi guitar,working as it should be

    Nice one, are you on OS 13 or 14? Seems to be reported fine on 14 but not 13 so far...

  • zilld2017zilld2017

    @Krupa said:
    I’ve recently found that this app isn’t working for me anymore in the MIDI department. In both standalone and as an au, I can see audio going in, and can process it through the amp section but it’s not triggering any notes. I can’t even see any indicators in the velocity section. I’m on iPad Pro still running 13.x

    Anyone else noticing similar issues?

    Yes! iOS 14.

  • KrupaKrupa

    Cool, ta @zilld2017

    On consultation with Jam origin, I’ve got it working - I needed to set my buffer under 1024, which is fair enough given the usage but I’m fairly sure that I used to run it higher, especially when I was trying to get multiple geoswams going in the autumn... does that work for you @espiegel123 ?

  • dobbsdobbs

    "sidechained" the whole track through this and chose the noise gate rather high and put a lot of reverb on the internal piano output, so now it adds some semi-random sprinkles on top of things, I like it )

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