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Flip - The most powerful portable sampler. Created by Andrew Huang. Coming soon for iOS.

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  • sigma79sigma79

    My sampling system. Just need glitch tbh. Had to see if it would work. Midi controller expected.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Probably better than feildscaper with own voice but we will duet, we will.

  • TarekithTarekith

    @Samu said:

    @Tarekith said:
    How much content comes with the app? I know it's a sampler, but is there a pretty decent factory library too?

    83 samples without the IAPs.

    All the IAPs are be baked into the App bundle and copied to Files.app when purchased making the download size bigger than it needs to be...

    Thanks very much!

  • ALBALB

    So, all other considerations aside, it’s not “the most powerful portable sampler”, right? I like it ok, but wish the dev would scale back on the claim. Perhaps “An Enjoyable Portable Sampling Experience For Many”.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @Montreal_Music Apple's cut was reduced down to 15% recently.

    @greengrocer Check out my issue list plus the many videos. Here it is again:

    BeatHawk already has a stronger sampler than Flip does, including both re-pitching and time stretching plus threshold triggered recording to avoid recording the actual screen tapping sound all the time but I doubt that it will receive a more powerful sample mapping engine as it's mainly a vehicle to sell their sound packs.
    I'll trust in Oliver and Andrew though because I think that they both love to deliver a quality product that will be enhanced over time and based on user feedback.
    And I think that the basic concept is too good to "throw it away" 😉

    My current wish list:

    • Always save the app state and return to exactly how I left Flip. I don't want to lose unsaved changes without warning.
    • Recorded samples can be imported but there's no easy way to export. The browser needs an Export function.
    • That mini notes view in the piano roll X zoom frame would be just as useful in the Y zoom range (just lines or dashes so we can see where the notes are)
    • The app size is just too big. Some iPhones still have only 16GB of memory so half a gigabyte without any purchased packs is really too much. Tipp for the devs: Use quality compression or let users download purchased packs. They're not that big that it would hurt.
    • Exporting song stems will create a zip file but exporting the master mix should give us the choice between Zip and WAV export for being able to import into more apps
    • Recording loops with the tape recorder will also export a zip instead of a WAV file. Please give us the choice what and how to export if "Enable multitrack recording" is disabled: WAV with the master mix or zipped WAV (and maybe AIFF with slice markers).
    • Samples can neither be trimmed nor are the start/end points saved with the sample file. Time waster.
    • Some kind of local WiFi file sharing (WebDAV like others do it) would make file transfer easier
    • Add level threshold based recording (with a short pre-run time to include the attack transient)
    • When saving a new recorded sample, automatically offer a unique name (sortable date & time format is good) so I'm not forced to give it one every time. Again, Flip is about speed.
    • Saving a sample with an existing name should ask me if I want to replace it instead of doing nothing and forgetting my current sample!
    • Allow for longer pattern lengths. Maybe up to 16 bars?
    • A bandwidth setting or at least narrow/wide options & icons in the peaking EQ bands would help a lot in correcting sound issues. The realtime analyzer is great already!

    This app has a very specific use IMHO: Recording and arranging samples spontaneously. I wouldn't expect it to be a full fledged composer, it's rather the first instance in a sample based production workflow and it would benefit from a number of refinements that all help creating great samples and loops to be used in your favorite DAW.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    According to Oliver on Facebook, Auv3 is coming for this, still not sure if that will tempt me or not though.

  • greengrocergreengrocer

    @rs2000 said:
    @Montreal_Music Apple's cut was reduced down to 15% recently.

    @greengrocer Check out my issue list plus the many videos. Here it is again:

    BeatHawk already has a stronger sampler than Flip does, including both re-pitching and time stretching plus threshold triggered recording to avoid recording the actual screen tapping sound all the time but I doubt that it will receive a more powerful sample mapping engine as it's mainly a vehicle to sell their sound packs.
    I'll trust in Oliver and Andrew though because I think that they both love to deliver a quality product that will be enhanced over time and based on user feedback.
    And I think that the basic concept is too good to "throw it away" 😉

    My current wish list:

    • Always save the app state and return to exactly how I left Flip. I don't want to lose unsaved changes without warning.
    • Recorded samples can be imported but there's no easy way to export. The browser needs an Export function.
    • That mini notes view in the piano roll X zoom frame would be just as useful in the Y zoom range (just lines or dashes so we can see where the notes are)
    • The app size is just too big. Some iPhones still have only 16GB of memory so half a gigabyte without any purchased packs is really too much. Tipp for the devs: Use quality compression or let users download purchased packs. They're not that big that it would hurt.
    • Exporting song stems will create a zip file but exporting the master mix should give us the choice between Zip and WAV export for being able to import into more apps
    • Recording loops with the tape recorder will also export a zip instead of a WAV file. Please give us the choice what and how to export if "Enable multitrack recording" is disabled: WAV with the master mix or zipped WAV (and maybe AIFF with slice markers).
    • Samples can neither be trimmed nor are the start/end points saved with the sample file. Time waster.
    • Some kind of local WiFi file sharing (WebDAV like others do it) would make file transfer easier
    • Add level threshold based recording (with a short pre-run time to include the attack transient)
    • When saving a new recorded sample, automatically offer a unique name (sortable date & time format is good) so I'm not forced to give it one every time. Again, Flip is about speed.
    • Saving a sample with an existing name should ask me if I want to replace it instead of doing nothing and forgetting my current sample!
    • Allow for longer pattern lengths. Maybe up to 16 bars?
    • A bandwidth setting or at least narrow/wide options & icons in the peaking EQ bands would help a lot in correcting sound issues. The realtime analyzer is great already!

    This app has a very specific use IMHO: Recording and arranging samples spontaneously. I wouldn't expect it to be a full fledged composer, it's rather the first instance in a sample based production workflow and it would benefit from a number of refinements that all help creating great samples and loops to be used in your favorite DAW.

    Thx!

  • brambosbrambos

    The reduced Apple cut will start early January

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @brambos said:
    The reduced Apple cut will start early January

    Oh, not backdated then? 😉

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

    @Carnbot said:
    According to Oliver on Facebook, Auv3 is coming for this, still not sure if that will tempt me or not though.

    this what?

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @Carnbot said:
    According to Oliver on Facebook, Auv3 is coming for this, still not sure if that will tempt me or not though.

    this what?

    This app :) he didn’t say when though.

  • LiquidmantisLiquidmantis

    @gusgranite said:

    @brambos said:
    The reduced Apple cut will start early January

    Oh, not backdated then? 😉

    Can you imagine how awesome that would be? Apple gonna make it rain.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @Carnbot said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @Carnbot said:
    According to Oliver on Facebook, Auv3 is coming for this, still not sure if that will tempt me or not though.

    this what?

    This app :) he didn’t say when though.

    Hope he gettin real paid for Flip. But, many in the cheap seats are hoping for AUv3 ED first!

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

    @Carnbot said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @Carnbot said:
    According to Oliver on Facebook, Auv3 is coming for this, still not sure if that will tempt me or not though.

    this what?

    This app :) he didn’t say when though.

    AH! I thought it was "Auv3 is coming for this month" and you forgot to put the word. My bad.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @Carnbot said:
    According to Oliver on Facebook, Auv3 is coming for this, still not sure if that will tempt me or not though.

    this what?

    This app :) he didn’t say when though.

    Hope he gettin real paid for Flip. But, many in the cheap seats are hoping for AUv3 ED first!

    Yeah or Modstep as an AUv3, I'm much more interested in those than this app tbh :)

  • AileromAilerom

    @Tarekith said:
    How much content comes with the app? I know it's a sampler, but is there a pretty decent factory library too?

    If I were to answer that using technical producer language I'd have to say fuck all. But to be honest it's less than that if you take into account that the included content may not suit your taste. It certainly lacks a single sample that does anything for me including the IAPs. I would say that aspect is personally an even bigger disappointment than Chomplr. The app is really good though, minus the crashes. I rarely find an app that I can use fairly well straight away but this one seems pretty intuitive so big thumbs up for me.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @oat_phipps said:
    Did he code this himself? If not, I don't like him calling it "my music making app". He should've said "a music app presented by me"

    Why not find out his involvement before throwing shade.

    (Not to mention that coders are not the only people that get credit for an app. A> @Carnbot said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @Carnbot said:
    According to Oliver on Facebook, Auv3 is coming for this, still not sure if that will tempt me or not though.

    this what?

    This app :) he didn’t say when though.

    Hope he gettin real paid for Flip. But, many in the cheap seats are hoping for AUv3 ED first!

    Yeah or Modstep as an AUv3, I'm much more interested in those than this app tbh :)

    Please not ModStep as an AUv3 -- it makes more sense as a host app -- too much functionality to fit comfortably in an AU and be expected to work well, in my opinion. I also don't want Cubasis or Auria or GarageBand or NS2 as an AU.

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @espiegel123 said:

    Please not ModStep as an AUv3 -- it makes more sense as a host app -- too much functionality to fit comfortably in an AU and be expected to work well, in my opinion. I also don't want Cubasis or Auria or GarageBand or NS2 as an AU.

    I'm not saying that will happen, they never said Modstep 2 would be AUv3 yet. But like Drambo there's no reason why it can't be both host and Auv3. Just create the modules which work as AU versions. It could be just the midi parts as AU, like LK.

  • reasOnereasOne

    wish list

    longer patterns. 4 bars currently..i personally don’t have the skills to make anything that short, i know you can chain patterns but that doesnt work with arps and pads or really any kind of samples i’m used to working with. 32 bars please

    connectivity for sampling

    exporting

    save when i press save not mysterious saving , right now i have to just kinda hope itll save my work.. then again recreating 4 bars isn’t that hard so its not a big loss

    pad options to have 1/4,1/16,1/32 etc repeats

  • SamuSamu

    Flip became a lot more fun after I dumped over some old stock Korg ES-1 samples :)
    (The samples provided with Flip do no 'speak' to me at all, maybe I'm too old or something?!).

  • greengrocergreengrocer

    @brambos said:
    The reduced Apple cut will start early January

    Probably this is due to fiscal reasons. On the other hand I suspect there's also a strategic reason. For the new Apple silicon on Mac OS they want also to bring in devs that developed software outside the Appstore. In the (near) future you're probably not longer be able to download apps for Mac OS outside the appstore.

  • kdoggkdogg

    Yeah the included samples don’t matter at all, I quickly added tons of my own samples through the files app and am really diggin the speed and flow of this thing. Dig the Touchable lookin waveforms and how quickly you can see everything as you’re creating.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    Andrew released a video. :) This may be enough to change my mind.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    Flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited December 2020

    FAQ here @ 12:00 in the video (won't let me embed to the location):

  • AileromAilerom

    How do you like the reverb. I have it sounding good on one track but on the snare it sounds like it has a massive pre delay and slow attack.

  • robosardinerobosardine

    @robosardine said:
    It definitely sucks that there is no connectivity whatsoever. Almost 2021- an app comes out from someone who is well versed in iOS and totally knows the score after using it himself for many years and you can’t jam with any other apps in any shape or form??? What is this madness??
    It’s not like it’s some sort of all in one production suite or anything.
    I can imagine what he would have been saying himself had he been reviewing it had he not been involved with it..... I can hear his accent, I can see his eyebrows moving, I can see a white laboratory, I can see him staring into the camera, I can see his new shirt, I can hear it all....
    Nice but no thanks.

    Wrong! ...... man this guy drives me nuts. Have a word with yourself.
    It does have Ableton Link.
    And AUv3 is a top priority for the first update.. straight from the man himself in the video - so that’s good.

  • ecamburnecamburn

    @robosardine said:

    @robosardine said:

    Wrong! ...... man this guy drives me nuts. Have a word with yourself.

    lol. But is he a good listener?
    :smile:

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited December 2020

    @espiegel123 said:

    @oat_phipps said:
    Did he code this himself? If not, I don't like him calling it "my music making app". He should've said "a music app presented by me"

    Why not find out his involvement before throwing shade.

    (Not to mention that coders are not the only people that get credit for an app. A> @Carnbot said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @Carnbot said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @Carnbot said:
    According to Oliver on Facebook, Auv3 is coming for this, still not sure if that will tempt me or not though.

    this what?

    This app :) he didn’t say when though.

    Hope he gettin real paid for Flip. But, many in the cheap seats are hoping for AUv3 ED first!

    Yeah or Modstep as an AUv3, I'm much more interested in those than this app tbh :)

    Please not ModStep as an AUv3 -- it makes more sense as a host app -- too much functionality to fit comfortably in an AU and be expected to work well, in my opinion. I also don't want Cubasis or Auria or GarageBand or NS2 as an AU.

    Because I don't have to do research to offer my opinion and say "if he didn't code this, then I'm disappointed in him". I put the "if not" qualifier in to save myself from just this sort of accusation, but I guess I underestimated the need of this board to defend app creators from criticism. If questioning his professional etiquette is "throwing shade" these days then I guess I'm guilty.

  • RajahPRajahP

    Is it me or, is Ableton Link broken.. Start/Stop will be nice too..

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