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  • SimonSimon

    .> @tahiche said:

    Ambient is a lazy musician’s bachelor degree, spending time on this forum instead of making music, that’s a doctorate 🙋🏻‍♂️

    So the 4,690 Forum visits you have made are part of your tertiary education studies? :smiley:

    Before you check, I have made 12,000 visits but I still end up in the dunce's corner...

  • SimonSimon

    @Slush said:
    @Simon @Gavinski Sorry, I see I was replying on a post directed to Gavin :#

    No problem. It was a response to Gav but anyone was welcome to chip in.

  • SvetlovskaSvetlovska
    edited September 2023

    I call it ‘A Bunch Of Bananas’

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @Svetlovska said:
    I call it ‘A Bunch Of Bananas’

    This forum or the image?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Svetlovska said:
    I call it ‘A Bunch Of Bananas’

    In the spirit of onanism, someone needs to make a variation of this where these are all penises. Good luck getting Stable Diffusion to do that though! 😉

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @Gavinski said:

    @Svetlovska said:
    I call it ‘A Bunch Of Bananas’

    In the spirit of onanism, someone needs to make a variation of this where these are all penises. Good luck getting Stable Diffusion to do that though! 😉

    À la H. R. Giger? :lol:

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  • michael_mmichael_m

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right?

    Are you sure? Do you have a source for that?

  • Danny_MammyDanny_Mammy
    edited September 2023

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    i also heard at some point they ramped up production for the smelly green shit.... referring to money not weed.

  • SimonSimon

    @michael_m said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right?

    Are you sure? Do you have a source for that?

    It was the same guy who told him Trump won the election...

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Simon said:

    @Gavinski said:
    They are also often the same people who rant about how terrible postmodernism is while knowing next to nothing about postmodernism.

    But Gav, you don't need to know anything about Postmodernism to know how terrible it is! :smiley: <----- is that a postmodernist attitude?

    It raises an interesting question: does not knowing much about a subject render your opinion invalid?

    If one is ignorant of a topic, one’s opinion/analysis within that domain deserves less weight than people that are knowledgeable. For example, the opinion of someone with no background in quantum
    physics should get little weight about a problem that requires knowledge about quantum physics.

    Having an opinion about a work you don’t like is valid in so far as whether you like it or not but wouldn’t carry much weight beyond that if it is in a domain about which you know little.

    Someone who doesn’t like jazz and is ignorant about it, can certainly say I like it don’t like some recording…but their opinion about whether it is jazz or good jazz wouldn’t carry much weight.

    I know nothing about fox hunting or cock fighting but I have an opinion about them...

    imo, an inapt analogy.

  • SlushSlush

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    No, this is incorrect. He ultimately stopped painting as his health declined.

  • pedropedro
    edited September 2023

    This thread is hilarious 🤣

    Nobody:
    This thread: 🍌 🍌 🍌

    Also if I may have your attention: a white horse is not a horse; and say “banana” too many times and you start to question what the word even means

    But carry on… 🍿please

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    As you said, Nay

  • SlushSlush

    @ehehehe said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    No, this is incorrect. He ultimately stopped painting as his health declined.

    You are completely right, I confused him with Warhols Factory! The point still kinda stands I think, nay?

    Yeah, Warhol outsourced a lot. Jeff Koons has a large team of skilled craftsmen to create his ideas. Spectacular work nonetheless, I saw his show in Amsterdam many years ago.

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  • Danny_MammyDanny_Mammy

    weren't the CIA involved in promoting post modernism in the US?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    weren't the CIA involved in promoting post modernism in the US?

    Links please?

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    No, this is incorrect. He ultimately stopped painting as his health declined.

    You are completely right, I confused him with Warhols Factory! The point still kinda stands I think, nay?

    Yeah, Warhol outsourced a lot. Jeff Koons has a large team of skilled craftsmen to create his ideas. Spectacular work nonetheless, I saw his show in Amsterdam many years ago.

    Leonardo and lots of those guys also had “factories” with their assistants doing a lot of the work. Not a new idea.

  • michael_mmichael_m
    edited September 2023

    @Gavinski said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    weren't the CIA involved in promoting post modernism in the US?

    Links please?

    https://www.infowars.com

  • Danny_MammyDanny_Mammy
    edited September 2023

    @michael_m said:
    Yea that is true. I > @Gavinski said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    weren't the CIA involved in promoting post modernism in the US?

    Links please?

    https://www.infowars.com

    Haha ! that's pretty funny :smiley: there are other links i suspect which aren't Infowars.

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @michael_m said:
    Yea that is true. I > @Gavinski said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    weren't the CIA involved in promoting post modernism in the US?

    Links please?

    https://www.infowars.com

    Haha ! that's pretty funny :smiley: there are other links i suspect which aren't Infowars.

    Sorry, couldn’t resist… :lol:

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @michael_m said:
    Yea that is true. I > @Gavinski said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    weren't the CIA involved in promoting post modernism in the US?

    Links please?

    https://www.infowars.com

    Haha ! that's pretty funny :smiley: there are other links i suspect which aren't Infowars.

    Please share them, I've got a feeling they will be equally dubious!

  • LuxthorLuxthor

    @bygjohn said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    No, this is incorrect. He ultimately stopped painting as his health declined.

    You are completely right, I confused him with Warhols Factory! The point still kinda stands I think, nay?

    Yeah, Warhol outsourced a lot. Jeff Koons has a large team of skilled craftsmen to create his ideas. Spectacular work nonetheless, I saw his show in Amsterdam many years ago.

    Leonardo and lots of those guys also had “factories” with their assistants doing a lot of the work. Not a new idea.

    In that logic, Midori is not an artist because someone else made the violin and composed the piece. Vladimir Horowitz is not an artist because he didn't make his grand piano and just ‘borrowed’ compositions from Chopin, Rachmaninov, etc.

  • SlushSlush

    @bygjohn said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    No, this is incorrect. He ultimately stopped painting as his health declined.

    You are completely right, I confused him with Warhols Factory! The point still kinda stands I think, nay?

    Yeah, Warhol outsourced a lot. Jeff Koons has a large team of skilled craftsmen to create his ideas. Spectacular work nonetheless, I saw his show in Amsterdam many years ago.

    Leonardo and lots of those guys also had “factories” with their assistants doing a lot of the work. Not a new idea.

    Rembrandt too. We can make a list :D

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited September 2023

    @bygjohn said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    No, this is incorrect. He ultimately stopped painting as his health declined.

    You are completely right, I confused him with Warhols Factory! The point still kinda stands I think, nay?

    Yeah, Warhol outsourced a lot. Jeff Koons has a large team of skilled craftsmen to create his ideas. Spectacular work nonetheless, I saw his show in Amsterdam many years ago.

    Leonardo and lots of those guys also had “factories” with their assistants doing a lot of the work. Not a new idea.

    Exactly. Again, what I said earlier, being informed matters when giving opinions (edit: people do need to distinguish between opinions and preferences).

  • ZerozerozeroZerozerozero

    @Gavinski said:
    @bygjohn said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    No, this is incorrect. He ultimately stopped painting as his health declined.

    You are completely right, I confused him with Warhols Factory! The point still kinda stands I think, nay?

    Yeah, Warhol outsourced a lot. Jeff Koons has a large team of skilled craftsmen to create his ideas. Spectacular work nonetheless, I saw his show in Amsterdam many years ago.

    Leonardo and lots of those guys also had “factories” with their assistants doing a lot of the work. Not a new idea.

    Exactly. Again, what I said earlier, being informed matters when giving opinions (edit: people do need to distinguish between opinions and preferences).

    This brings up another thread derail in how people are gauging expertise.
    In an ideal world you’re right.
    In a broader sense though In the internet age, lots of completly unqualified people espouse on things they have no expertise in but still convince large numbers of people what they’re saying is right.

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    @Luxthor said:

    @bygjohn said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:

    @Slush said:

    @ehehehe said:
    Yall know that mostly, a huge team of assistants made Pollocks actual, physical paintings, right? Somewhat comparable to making ambient with generative apps: it's irrelevant how something is made as long as the results are good. Also; fart noises.

    No, this is incorrect. He ultimately stopped painting as his health declined.

    You are completely right, I confused him with Warhols Factory! The point still kinda stands I think, nay?

    Yeah, Warhol outsourced a lot. Jeff Koons has a large team of skilled craftsmen to create his ideas. Spectacular work nonetheless, I saw his show in Amsterdam many years ago.

    Leonardo and lots of those guys also had “factories” with their assistants doing a lot of the work. Not a new idea.

    In that logic, Midori is not an artist because someone else made the violin and composed the piece. Vladimir Horowitz is not an artist because he didn't make his grand piano and just ‘borrowed’ compositions from Chopin, Rachmaninov, etc.

    I don’t really get the analogy here.

    My point is simply that lots of artists in the past, many regarded as great, had studios full of assistants doing most of the work, just like some modern artists. So if Warhol is somehow dodgy because of his factory, so is Leonardo.

    This is not an opinion I share: I don’t think having assistants invalidates an artist’s art. So attempts to use that to invalidate modern art are spurious in my opinion, unless you are prepared to invalidate more “acceptable” (usually old) artists as well.

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