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Any news on NanoStudio2 2021 edition
Any whispers of audio etc...
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Got NanoStudio just after bm1 I think
I would hit the NanoStudio forum everyday, like I check this place 50 times a day
Can’t really even be bothered to look there for info, I hope blip is well, and really hope he is working on audio tracks. But remember him taking along time to implement things in NanoStudio 1
It’s a great app, got my monies worth, so not bitter, but would love that final bit of icing
I removed Nanostudio 2 from my iPad and fully stepped over to Drambo. The developer of NS2 refuses to communicate, so everybody is staring in the dark. NS2 was hyped, and especially the promise of adding audio tracks got my attention. So game over for NS2 for me.
It's a shame where things have got to with Nanostudio 2 and audio tracks, because it's only that update that prevents it from being the best DAW on iOS, imo. It really should have been done ages ago, and the lack of communication from Matt on the subject has beeen pretty rubbish.
Just a quick question: i read a lot of praise for nanostudio 2 and everybody says it would be perfect with the audiotracks expansion. May i ask what makes nanostudio so special (I never used it, but for what i saw it doesnt look so special). What does it better than Beatmaker 3 or Cubasis 3? I get that obsidian is a good synth, but there a plenty of awesome synths out there which are on par or better imo.
Really good UI, flexible routing, etc. Also has excellent implementation of tempo modulation and time signature changes. It's also fun to use in a way none of the other DAWs are really.
Plus the thing about Obsidian is not necessarily that it's the best synth (whatever that means), but that it's a workhorse. It supports a range of different synthesis styles, has great modulation, the interface is very intuitive and efficient. Add to that the fact that it's deeply integrated into the routing options of Nanostudio and you have one of the best synths on IOS.
I also haven't touched Nanostudio in at least a year...
Yeah I think it's this more than anything else that has resulted in people basically writing it off.
I'd add that one of the things that sets Nanostudio apart is really flexible routing options. It's the closest thing to Reaper on IOS, but without Reaper's, err, UX problems.
Okay, thank you for the heads up. But dont other daws like cb3 or auria also have flexible routing option? I like the comparision to reaper, was the first thing i saw when i looked at ns2.
As I see it, it’s only two things that got wrong here with NS2 - communication and the promise of Audiotracks (too optimistic timeframe)...
If it took Matt six years to develope NS2 without Audiotracks, why then release a full blown NS2 short after release of NS2 v.1.0?
IF Matt almost was ready, he certainly had wait another six month for first release of NS2....
Matt is an extremely perfectionist, and for me I think NS2 is the most stable and reliable software on my iPad concering audio/music making...
And the workarounds for adding audio thru Slate AND Midi Tools from Victor Porof that allow you to record Midi from other AU/Midi-apps - that’s enough for me!
Nanostudio 2 is just awesome, but, I also love Drambo & Beatmaker 3 - just like to have three children - you love them all!
Let me just drop this here...
Would you pay 80€ for a new Nanostudio with audio tracks and some other new awesome features?.
80€ Is not exaggerated, a lot less than you’d pay for average desktop apps.
I’m pretty sure by now a big handicap for iOS music is that it’s simply not profitable for devs. I doubt too many of them (if any) make a decent living. So they probably have day jobs. Maybe the dev of NS2 is working Monday to Friday somewhere and has to work on audio tracks on the weekends... I think that was the case with @blueveek and Atom2 (excuse me if I’m wrong on this one, recall having read it, anyway it’s just an example). He had to balance all these feature requests and “hurry up” nagging with his day job.
There’s few of us and apps are cheap. We want professional products but it’s not a professional market... Don’t get me wrong, I’m the first one to complain and cry about missing features!. It’s funny how what we pay is not directly proportional to what we demand.
IF you need Tempo Tracks AND Signature Tracks - Nanostudio 2 is the Midi DAW for you!
Cubasis hasn’t yet implemented neither in v.3.x, not in Beatmaker 3...
Hav’nt checked the other DAWs on iPad, but, if you want an extremely stable reliable “DAW” on iPad, choose Nanostudio 2...
I would be keen to understand the perceived or experienced limitations that people have with the NS2 + MultiTrack Recorder combo which leaves them still pining for integrated audio track support. Is this combination something that people are not generally aware of? Playing devil's advocate, the main issues with it that I can think of are:
For my use case the problem of audio tracks not being integrated is as good as solved. I do want to hear of any problems people have had with this setup as it would be useful to be aware of them.
I have had no issues so far dropping guitar recordings into my MTR timeline and have them play back. Audio units work with this as well, so my dry guitar sample goes through THU as an NS2 audio FX. It also copes with songs with tempo changes and the mixdown includes the audio.
I still have yet to really understand what NS2 has that CB3 doesn’t aside from tempo and time signature tracks.
Imo, it’s the only DAW (...to be hopefully, sadly only groovebox atm) that implemented DAW specific features designed for touch. Nothing comes close if precision, stability, streamlined workflow matters to you.
A year ago I would probably asked for better communication, seeing where it ended with Atom2 I wouldn’t ask any dev ever again.
As for the lacks of MTR... all I need is to able to monitor multiple external channels simultaneously... you know, hw synths/fx, possibly real-time...
Also, one changes workflow if it’s worth it, but generally you know what you want to do, and try to find the best tool to support that, always altering your flow won’t get you too far...
But my POV is not result oriented, only trying to have fun.
As I read from Cubasis 3.x users - it’s not that stable?
NS2 is rock solid!
Shouldn’t a Pro software, a “DAW’, have Tempo/TimeSig Tracks?
After five-six years on iOS Steinberg have decided to just skip that...?
And the synth inside NS2 is way way more capable that CS3 integrated instrument...
Apart from the those and the logical workflow? The best piano roll on ios. Why every dev hasn't copied the drag handle approach to midi note editing, I can't understand. It's faster and more accurate than other methods.
For me it isn’t really about big features as it is the accumulative hands on design choices in the UI. I didn’t use the tempo and time sig tracks. NS2 has extremely smooth, quick navigation and song building. Creating, arranging and editing patterns, automating parameters (the ones you are allowed to anyway) is all luxurious. The mixer routing is fantastic. Being able to send midi to AUfx is very nice. Ok that is one specific (big for me) feature, but again, it is not really about a spec sheet for me. Lots of smooth beautiful design choices. What is the saying? Greater than the sum of it’s parts?
This comment piqued my interest as I had not tried recording into MTR from inside NS2. I did a little experiment with an AUM channel going in to SonoBus, and another SonoBus feeding in to MTR as an AUfx:
The SonoBus part lets you monitor anything you can add to AUM, which could be your hardware synth, and you have the added benefit of being able to record it directly into MTR. I did a quick test recording to prove it works but this solution will need further testing. I cannot see why this would not scale to multiple AUM channels but might be a pain to set up unless the latest SonoBus has state saving for the loopback connection config,
Nanostudio is super stable too!
This one’s got audio tracks:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/audio-evolution-mobile-studio/id1094758623
NanoStudio has never crashed on me.
Audio tracks would be great, but not having it is not a dealbreaker for me.
My requests are basic:
• Allow MIDI FX to be designated as a MIDI input
• Allow MIDI control of the transport controls
• DREAM: Create a MIDI control that will move the loop start and end to the next bar length of my choice so I can create new loops by pressing a pedal or button on a controller
But it's not NS2
For real, this has the most well thought out design for touch screen use. Most other piano rolls feel like they’re still stuck on desktop and it doesn’t translate very well for touch screens
On an iPhone 4s you can literally use NS1 with just one hand / thumb, amazing.
Does NS2 has a freeze track option to free cpu? because without audio-Tracks this seems pretty important for bigger Projekts IMO
No, but people rave about how amazingly efficient Obsidian (built in synth) is and how they don't need track freezing. Tales and videos of dozens upon dozens of unfrozen tracks. I just never vibed with it personally. Could be because I am a lazy preset tweaker, but I always preferred Synthmaster One.