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I've been into products and services pricing for quite a long time. I was wondering if you developers have or use any price elasticity studies, surveys which help you to set the price to the right level where you can maximize your revenues? Even considering a subscirption based model. (Ok, I know that it's not just about the profit, but also about the enthusiasm) Does Apple or anyone else provide you with such supporting material or is there a developer community where devs share their experience. Or you do it based on your experience? I'm definitely not saying that pricing based on experience is not good, I'm just asking.
I also know that iOS music is a relatively niche area compared to the user base of note taking, photo editor or game apps.
It is very disappointing to see how many (few) evaluations the music apps receive in Appstore compared to other even stupid apps for the masses, while you developers put huge amount of work into these apps.
$10-20 (minus 30% apple share) for an app which has few hundred downloads maximum definitely not worth the hundreds of hours of development if I compare how much money can a dev earn from other projects or full time IT jobs.
Since I'm not into the app development business I don't want to be seen as the 'smart guy' who comes up with proposals on how to price the music apps, I'm just thinking loud.
However I wish music app development was a much more profitable business for devs, it would benefit for the users as well.
Also would be nice to understand why an app like BM3 is way more popular than any other DAW in the iOS market. I assume BM3 has at least 10times more downloads than other DAWs.
Don't misunderstand me BM3 is a fantastic app. Its design, its features, its workflow. I like it very much. But I like Cubasis, NS2 or Zenbets as well. For me they're on par with BM3 even if the concept is different.
I’m relieved I was correct, @blueveek, and I’d bet this is the case for most devs. I know the guy behind Samplr is working for Apple. This further increases my admiration for devs like @blueveek , the guys at Imaginando, 4pockets and all others that put a ton of effort and their free time to make this happen.
I might seem totally off topic, here. But this NS2 thread points in that direction. There’s individuals behind this that are not really making money!. Yet we keep demanding and complaining.
@GLacey Cubasis, Zenbeats, MixBox... those are different cases. There’s “big” companies behind them, with huge resources compared to small iOS devs. For these companies iOS is not about profits but more of a marketing or penetration strategy. Intua depends on BM3 sales, Roland doesn’t depend on Zenbeats. Zenbeats is a means to sell Roland cloud or Zenology or whatever. Btw I’m scared shitless about Logic on iOS.
I think this is a really interesting subject. Agree 100% with @ervin. Should I start a thread on this subject?. I’d like to know your opinions.
I don’t believe the dev ever made any such implications. And yes, there are and were some NS2 zealots who came across that way. But that’s true of supporters of many apps. NS2 is an awesome app with a smooth workflow (for my and others way of working). If it had audio tracks I wouldn’t use anything else. As it is I’ve settled quite happily on BM3 but if NS2 audio tracks ever do show up... 😎👍🏼
From what i remember, COVID hit and Matt basically had to dedicate his time to being a full time teacher and care taker for his kids.
God bless him.
Family first. I hope he and the family are doing well. 🙏🏼💕
You see that's fine, but if he was a little more public about stuff like this it would help tremendously. Even just stating family issues have delayed things instantly changes things (including letting people know that it isn't coming soon).
@echoopera : Great points all.. Forgot about COVID for a minute there . You’re 100% right
Some nice stuff here and I would certainly have used a few of these back in my commuting days. These days I am addicted to Maschine and NI stuff. Still keeping an eye on iOS mainly out of habit and curiosity. If I ever commute again it will be Windows all the way.
The reason for BM3 being so popular is because Intua are pioneers in this iOS thing. BM1 was one of the first app that really showed you can make music on an iPhone/iPod at the time. There was no iPads yet. I was using BeatMaker before it was called BeatMaker (it was called beatphone, I believe) before the App Store. BM2 came out and industry producers like Manny Fresh started using it so of course this trend continued.
Yeah. This last year has been a tremendous strain on everyone. I just hope we all can find a balance with all that we have had to face. 🙏🏼💕
These patches are absolutely stellar @dendy A true labor of love. These source samples are 🔥!! I only use obsidian and slate when I’m working in NS2 and this just magnified my arsenal 10 fold! I would encourage you NS2’ers to check out the YouTube vids and listen to them. Another reason why I don’t really need anything else.
For it's main use case (making loops for rappers) it's better than any of the main alternatives.
The marketing message would lead you to believe that, but I’ve never made a loop for rapping with it.
@AudioGus :Asus now has that ‘14 duo screen for your commute..Plays nice w Bitwig
Yes. Me too.
https://gumroad.com/dendy
Click the video link to go to Youtube, there is a link to Gumroad to buy each bank
We need more genre-specific DAW’s! 🤪
Ooo ... thanks for kind words :-) I will not deny, it is nice to hear when somebody appreciates my work :-) spend hours and hours working on them .. funny fact - when i had probably 40% done (i think it was somewhere in middle of 2019), by mistake i DELETED everything i made (probably 4 months of work) so i had to start again from beginning
Yeah, i'm really terrible in self-promo
I’m really just going by the fact that YouTube videos seem to be mostly that kind of production. I don’t use bm3.
It would be interesting to read about how does your sound creation workflow look like. Do you have an idea in your mind and you’re tweaking the parameters till you get closest to the idea? Or you start it by tweaking the parameters (I’m not saying randomly) till you get an interesting sound?
YouTube vids may not be representative -- and there are plenty of BM3 videos (such as Henny's and Electrisounds) that aren't rap. Beats oriented perhaps but those guys are not primarily rappers. It has lots of uses for non-rap music. BM3 is a sampling beast.
Sure. Sampling isn’t my thing. All I meant was for that kind of thing it seems to be a reason to buy an iPad. I think it’s been successful for that reason.
in 80% of cases i have some idea, at least what kind of sound i want.. often i'm inspired by some speciffic sound which i heard somewhere and i like it, or from some synth tutorial, and then i'm trying to reproduce it.. on the way, sometimes i get something different - i save it as alternative and later i return to that saved alternative and finish it, or i develop it into something completely different.
Sometimes i also take some my old patch, and start to tweak it until it sounds somehow different - when it is different enough, i save it as new patch..
20% percent is pure experimentation where i'm intentionally trying to break rules i know, or to do something in complete opposite way than usually - Of course it's never "random" process, i always know what i'm going to tweak and why - i like to understand things, when i'm stsrting to feel i'm "loet in patch" i usually delete thst patch :-)
@dendy
Your Obsidian patches are awesome. Not only do they show what a flexible and great sounding synth Obsidian is but also what a skilled programmer you are. 😎👍🏼
Audio tracks are the only feature missing in NS2 relative to my workflow. That is not to say “I would never use anything else”. That would be silly. But I wouldn’t need another “DAW”.
Agreed, if it was a compressor, an EQ, a slicer, etc then having several of them to choose from is one thing. But I generally stay in one DAW (or whatever you kids are calling a DAW these days) as much as possible for writing songs. Anything can be improved, but it doesn’t mean I’m going to jump off of something just because it doesn’t have everything I want.
Shoul be written in stone. Deep profound truth !