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Know what that’s called? A buying opportunity.
or a sign of what is to come
No, a buying opportunity is exactly like that, except that it drops to 2k immediately afterwards
https://media1.tenor.com/images/8aa928fcb063f01cbc0ec3274a0599f5/tenor.gif?itemid=3409084
And another tweet sends the price down further. Who needs a central bank when you have Twitter?
That's been a reality in the stock market forever. One news report or whatever triggers swings. Only really stupid traders worry a lot about that kind of shit.
At least it's not the President of the United States constantly doing it this time though. 😂
@richardyot - if you're going to wring your hands in glee every time there's a dip in a crypto, or declare that it means the end has come, then you should at least be balanced and proclaim every bump is the bright shining future and riches for all.
I made a nice chunk of change on ETH this week. Bought the last "end is nigh" dip, and cashed out on the rebound. BTC will rebound (IMO). If I had some spare change I'd buy a little. Tapped out right now though, and not sure it's bottomed out yet.
@wim I think you misunderstand, I’m pointing out the absurdity of a “currency” that is so volatile that one man’s tweets can have this effect.
I don’t recall the dollar dipping due to any of Trump’s tweets for example, has that ever happened?
And also you compare this to the stock market, but does the stock market react to Twitter?
Reacting to actual fundamentals such as interest rates or unemployment is fair enough, but these are just tweets.
You think of Crypto as "currency", I don't think about it like that at all. I think of it simply as a tradable commodity. I dabble in swing trading Crypto just as I dabble in swing trading stocks, gold, ETFs, etc. My comments are purely in that context. Nothing to do with crypto as a currency at all.
What was it called when 1 Bitcoin was $9,000 one year ago?
In fact, in the US and many other countries cryptos are treated like commodities or funds. To my knowledge it is not used in any country like a currency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory#North_America
Absolutely! I'm greatly puzzled that you'd even ask that. I wouldn't even begin to know where to start listing examples.
Singling out just Twitter though goes beyond the point I was making, which is that that commodity prices react to news and rumors. Most traders (successful ones anyway) know this, and don't extrapolate the second coming or the final judgement every time this happens.
Currencies are indeed less subject to this. I don't trade in currency futures because I understand nothing about what influences them.
We all know it’s not a “currency” under current regulatory and tax reporting requirements.
You are on the right track here, but you a bit twisted up. The major currency pairs are not a free market. The crypto markets are for the most part, decentralized and operate as a free market. This is what is so appealing to many, anyone can actually gain.
Correction: Cryptos are less regulated at this point, however “free market” does not apply to cryptos either. If there was a real free market, cryptos would function just like fiat currencies and individuals would be free to choose whichever “currency” best fit their needs and risk profile.
You are confusing regulation and free market as two opposite things. They are not. You can have a regulated free market. The major currencies pairs are regulated but they are also controlled by governments and banks, which is a good thing. Crypto and blockchain are pretty much the purest economic example of a functioning free market we have ever seen. Broad strokes here, but this is pretty much where we are right now.
Sorry, but those terms are opposites. There’s no such thing as a “regulated free market”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market
My point stands, major currency pairs are not a free market and crypto is the closest example we have. Again, broad strokes…I’m not going to get into the intricacies on an audio forum as they are too vast. I’m not interested in being right or wrong here, just clear up common misconceptions some may hold, as you expressed.
Edit: a better resource: https://www.aeaweb.org/
sooo.. ummm. whats going on?? lol. seems like a pretty big dip across the board. BTC, ETH, all Alts..
@richardyot Mr. Whale is scammer, it was proven multiple times he scammed people for real money. Sharing him isn't much wise, it takes away trust from all sources you use in this thread ;-) You sould verify more before you quote somebody. Just friendly advice.
Regarding me - i'm enjoying recent 24 hourse very much. The power with which CryptoTwitter hit one selfish emotionally unstable egomaniac billionaire is outstanding. I'm proud to be member of such resilient community, which places absolute cold honest and truth at first place before money.
Can't stop laugh - my twitter feed is full of screenshots people cancelling Tesla orders and selling Tesla stock for Bitcoin. I wouldn't be suprised by significant dip of $TSLA in next hours when stocks, especially NASDAQ, opens.
Honestly, i hope Musk&Tesla sold all Bitcoin. Recent events showed that we are still too early and too much bitcoin in hands of such egotripper with god complex is systematic risk. I had better opinion about him but his posts in recent 24 hours changed my mind a lot. He did put down his mask. I would like see him go full in dogecoin (as he posted, literally), i think TikTok degens looking at him as cult leader are ideal audience for him. Bitcoin doesn't need leaders or individuals, it's totally decentralized community.
I just wish for him he already sold, because if not, he will sell most probably with loss lol :-D This is why he can't win this war - we can hodl for years, he can't. Shareholders will eat him alive.
At the end - I still have same amount of satoshis like i had yesterday or day before yestarday. So no looses at all :-) Just sad i haven't any free shitcoin EUR to buy more, next paycheck is 2 weeks away
Nothing special. Just CryptoTwitter in war with Musk
Hold on.
Lol, big shareholders probably already grabbed his balls. Or he had phonecall from Gary Gensler lol
Strange accusation you’re making here, the mr whale tweet is interesting because Elon Musk replied to it and crashed the market.
I made no comment on his trustworthiness or otherwise.
This is all really amusing. It’s the kind of blip savvy investors live for. The chicken shit amateurs bail and give the pros a chance to buy the dip.
Does anyone really seriously believe a tweet or two is going to cause more than a temporary blip? If so, then definitely don’t invest in crypto ... or anything else for that matter. You’ll get your ass handed to you. 😂
Sadly, I suspect that Elon Musk will believe it, absorb that belief into his hungry hungry ego and grow ever more detached. That boy needs therapy.
https://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/elon-musk-aspergers-snl-saturday-night-live-monologue.html
The hype around Bitcoin is all based on how it's a reliable store of value, a hedge against inflation. Yet a couple of tweets sends the market down 20%.
Inflation is going up, Bitcoin is going down, and taking the whole of crypto down with it.
I couldn't care less about trading, I don't have any money invested because it's clearly a ponzi. I'm just pointing out that the marketing behind Bitcoin is pure BS. A store of value should be able to weather a couple of tweets.
And if I was a betting man I would say that the bull run is over, and now would be a good time to cash out. Neither of us can predict the future though, but I would caution about being too certain either way.
Yeah, people on the spectrum can still learn about the world and grow and pursue happiness and be kind.
Honestly, I read the SNL event (i.e. him going on there, not how it went) as a plea for acceptance and popularity that maybe he didn't have as a kid. It went badly, and now he's having a tantrum. I won't lie - I have been a little concerned that he's headed for Bond villainy, but hopefully he's just being an arse - atypical psychology or no.
Yeah, it's dead, obvously ponzi scheme. Like many times before (green circles - 35% dips)
I invested a tiny bit (sadly just tiny) in spring 2017, so i'm perfectly cool :-) It's long term game, years. Short term it's very risky speculation, totally agree. Looking forward to 2025 - 2026 ..
very good short analysis of recent events and price action
https://btcbywc3.substack.com/p/weekend-recap-517?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=text