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I'm currently having a bit of a resurgence with bm3 having gotten disillusioned with the mpc one, I can get just as much detail and fun out of bm3 to be honest and the results are for the most part identical, and don't get me started on the timestrech, Bm3 is far far superior to even the best quality setting of the new mpcs..
agreed though it could do with some quality of life updates like being able to timestrech reversed samples etc..
Time to freshen up the feature request/bug tracker then!
Bm is incredible thing beaten only by drambo. Cant understand how this amazing piece of software is not updated
All I can say is that BM3 is not dead.
For those who will probably ask the big question of “When”and “BM4” I don’t know 🤷🏽♂️ Or do I 👀👀🤣🤣🤣🤣✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾
Hehe, good one
Whenever I pick up BM3 again I wonder why i work with anything else. But im fickle, and feel that way about other workstations too, (including PC stuff, which sometimes makes me wonder why I’m on iPad ever…)
But BM3 is incredible. Feature and workflow wise i dont think there is anything including MPC hardware that does what it can. (Someone can correct me on that one im sure)
Even YouTubers seem unaware of what is possible, working with for example the 2 sequencers, which is just one of the many flexible powers of this software that i dont see explicated or even mentioned around town (Again feel free to crucify me on that statement) This ongoing unawareness of the wonders of BM3 is certainly true of me. Ive probably been as productive in BM3 as my other crush-DAWs (FLSM, SunVox) and I’m still plumbing the depths of this one.
As has happened many times on the forum this thread will likely send me back in…
I knew you would enjoy that.😂
The developer have all the necessary info, feature requests, bug fixes. I’ve even messaged him personally about IAP for features. I still read the forum from time to time.
No doubts about that...
...there's one feature from BM2 that I wish it would get in an improved form...
Being able to 'explode' a banks pad-tracks on the time-line and/or add additional control tracks to a bank like in BM2.
See this as a 'Track Folder' for a Bank. Just like you can explode a bank in the mixer it could be handy to explode a bank in the arranger/time-line. Then it would be easy to 'mute' pads on the time-line when a pattern repeats to add variation.
BeatHawk is a good example to maximize usage of limitations where you can just drag a pattern to a time-line and select which pads are used at a specific song-location where the pattern is used. It also allows 'parts of a pattern' to be dragged to the time-line. (ie. for example just use the last bar of a 4 bar pattern) but other parts if that app are not so well thought out...
I'll be looking forward to the next BM3,4,5,6 etc. update but thankfully I have other apps that keep me busy
Take Care & Stay Safe!
Mannnnnn I did not understand this BM2 feature until explode tracks came to MPC. I completely forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me. I will definitely add that to the list he has.
You stay safe as well. Thanks
No doubt.
An updated look, some much needed things like better fx (visual), key detection, updated piano roll and function, PDC, and way more which are already on the list.
Perhaps he'd consider making the sampler/pad-section a pop-out/pop-in Auv3, for those that would want to use it with another DAW. No need to maintain a separate app or lose money on main product. Just make the functionality an IAP
It’s definitely something I haven’t explored as much as I should have. Been listening to a lot of hip hop recently, so in the mood for something like an MPC approach.
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ People are still asking for that. Don’t hold your breath. If I was the developer I wouldn’t do it either. That’s one the biggest feature of BM3.
You could try Xequence au Pads if you want a 4x4 grid to bang on:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/xequence-au-pads/id1453556216
Or just get sEGments or EG Pulse from Elliott Garage:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/segments-by-elliott-garage/id1513990681
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/eg-pulse/id1478285477
So much of ‘the sampler’ flow in BM3 is how it is integrated into the app (sample any bank on a whim, the transport controls, ability to nest pad and instrument mode etc). Just having a clunky AU (with the sampling hacks and limitations of AUs) would be blasphemy.
I'm curious why you wouldn't do it. In the model I suggested there'd be nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Personally, i prefer to do my finger-drumming on a normal keyboard layout. Either way, Beatmaker is clearly much more than a slicer with "a 4x4 grid to bang on"
What do you mean when you refer to sampling hacks and AU limitations? Would BM as an AU not be able to sample directly from anything being sent to it, or from the main audio bus?
And of course it would be missing some of the functionality of BM as a complete DAW, but no need for it to be an either/or situation. Clearly there's a market for the sampler part.
An AUv3 sampler will never have as tight host integration as a built-in sampler…
Of course. But evidently there are people for whom the BM workflow just doesn't click.I'd assume most of those who still really lust for the sampler also understand the compromises, but feel them to be more manageable than working with BM alongside their go-to DAW.
Also, would it not be fair to assume that within the lifetime of the next BM the AU spec/integration will improve?
Hehe, I know they are more than well aware of it by now...
...guess it's just a 'priority thing'
I agree. I was getting on really well with BM3 until I tried recording some guitar in. This worked fine until I realised that BM3 was keeping all my old takes with seemingly no way of managing this. I found a housekeeping workaround but it was too much hassle in the end and I think the sample naming convention also made it hard to understand which samples were active in which project so deleting things manually felt risky.
For now the easiest way to do 'cleanup' is to save the project with a new name and include all samples and then delete the old project...
@hansjbs I do hope that 'project cleanup' is something that is on the long list of to-do fixes no?
This is the reason why. Thank you Gus
Thank you! I don’t understand why some cannot understand that
We’ve asked for that as well. It’s on the list the developer has and is looking at for the future of BM3 or BM4
Last beta I had had more improvement in that category but yes that’s high up on the list
@d4d0ug once I do a “ Save as with samples” once I’m satisfied with what I have so far, I make sure the samples are in the project folder and delete where those samples are elsewhere. I know it’s a pain but I’ve been doing this since forever and barely have missing samples issue. The current BM3 version have issues with trimming a long sample to less than 2 bars or is it 1 bar…but was fixed in the last beta which expired already. That’s the only time I get missing samples now