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BM3. Man I miss this and need to revisit it.

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  • @el_bo said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @hansjbs said:

    @AudioGus said:

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    @CapnWillie said:

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    @Samu said:
    I can't help but wonder if we'll see any updates to BM3 during 2022...

    Now why would you go and do that? 😩😂

    I was content just accepting it for what it is. Now…I wonder too.

    Any news from the inner circle @hansjbs ?
    Does it still live or is Vince on to other things?

    All I can say is that BM3 is not dead.
    For those who will probably ask the big question of “When”and “BM4” I don’t know 🤷🏽‍♂️ Or do I 👀👀🤣🤣🤣🤣✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾

    😂.

    Truth is BM3 is pretty complete for my use anyways. Everything can improve and I’ll be here for when/if it does but it’s about as good as anything when you import all your sounds and get everything organized. Atleast as far as standalones go.

    No doubt.
    An updated look, some much needed things like better fx (visual), key detection, updated piano roll and function, PDC, and way more which are already on the list.

    Perhaps he'd consider making the sampler/pad-section a pop-out/pop-in Auv3, for those that would want to use it with another DAW. No need to maintain a separate app or lose money on main product. Just make the functionality an IAP ;)

    🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ People are still asking for that. Don’t hold your breath. If I was the developer I wouldn’t do it either. That’s one the biggest feature of BM3.

    So much of ‘the sampler’ flow in BM3 is how it is integrated into the app (sample any bank on a whim, the transport controls, ability to nest pad and instrument mode etc). Just having a clunky AU (with the sampling hacks and limitations of AUs) would be blasphemy.

    This is the reason why. Thank you Gus

    There is no reason why it would have to be a clunky AU. Personally, I don’t find the sampler’s integration with the DAW critical to my workflow.

    To each there own of course. One example: I find being able to sample any track or internal bank on a whim without the need to set up an AU fx for routing (like AU samplers require) to be critical. Running an AU sampler would not enable this and to me would then fall under my subjective label of ‘clunky’.

    But you're comparing against your experience of the full DAW. Wouldn't it make more sense to view an AU version of the BM sampler in relation to what currently exists?

    Exactly. But when it comes down to armchair speculation such as this, so much of what one defines as 'the Bm3 sampler' is blurry and grey. Are we talking the equivalent of a single pad or multiple pads, ala a drum sampler? This is part of the the kind of mass complainy stuff @hansjbs is saying would emerge post release.

  • @tja said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @echoopera said:
    And of course there is also Koala Sampler which has achieved Legend status on iOS imho. Since it went auv3, embracing the community and supporting his great app, Elf Audio has done something wonderful for mobile producers.

    I cannot praise Koala enough. I need to definitely use it more than i do.

    Koala in NS2 is pretty darn sweet. That to me is a super viable BM3 alternative given all the other NS2 niceties.

    However, for me, supporting multiple pads (each of which can have separate pitch via it's own piano roll) and being able to simultaneously export multiple pads at the same time, each on their own without the need to solo or mute and constantly re-export is huge (thanks BM3). Anything less than that... Clunkytown!

    Could you please elaborate on the benefits of Koala within nanostudio 2?

    I recently bought Koala because of the Ableton Live Lite licencse, but never used it ...

    From the man himself:

  • wimwim
    edited February 2022

    Put me firmly in the camp of those who feel that an AUv3 sampler inspired by BM3's, even without the host integration, would still be fabulous and far, far above the competition feature-wise.

    But I'll also say ... I hope it isn't Intua that eventually does that. Sorry, but glacial pace of development, lack of communication and involvement from the developer, and (what I see as) design sensibility that is unintuitive for certain bread and butter things, makes me hope someone else does a BM3 inspired AU sampler. Fat chance given the unlikely ROI for such a venture, but one can hope.

    Sorry. I know this is a thread mainly praising BM3. I don't mean to crash the party. I'm just being honest with my thoughts about the sampler discussion only.

  • Once again I strongly believe BM3 is dead .

    If the dev wanted money (which makes sense) , he would constantly add features as IAP , or release frequent major paid upgrades

    For now it looks like one man side project

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  • @Korakios said:
    Once again I strongly believe BM3 is dead .

    If the dev wanted money (which makes sense) , he would constantly add features as IAP , or release frequent major paid upgrades

    For now it looks like one man side project

    Given the last two updates, what they provided and the spacing of them, I would say 'almost done' more so than 'dead'.

  • wimwim
    edited February 2022

  • @Korakios said:
    Once again I strongly believe BM3 is dead .

    If the dev wanted money (which makes sense) , he would constantly add features as IAP , or release frequent major paid upgrades

    For now it looks like one man side project

    He doesn’t want to do features as IAP, the reason I can say that is because I’ve asked him the same myself and told him about koala doing it and loopy pro but he doesn’t feel right charging for features when he can release a feature pack BM4 and charge for that instead. Not saying that’s currently his plan but that’s what he told me. With that said, I just let the man do what’s best for him and what he believes is best for his company.

  • edited February 2022

    Those who want to believe BM3 is dead, cool, believe that. As someone who’s been a fan and using it since version 1, what we call lack of communication has been there since BM1. Would it better if they communicate more yes but it comes with it’s disadvantages as well. The company been this way for a while and I don’t see this changing.
    I will repeat it again, BM3 is not dead or should I say Intua is not dead!!!!

  • edited February 2022

    As they always say, "Don't hope for features in the future to sell you on a particular piece of kit, when you can use the app as it is today..."

    This logic should always be a persons guiding principle when deciding on new tools.

    "Will I be happy with what it offers today?"

    BM3 = yes
    Drambo = YES
    Koala Sampler = YES

    Add your own apps preferences to the list of course ;)

  • @hansjbs said:
    I will repeat it again, BM3 is not dead or should I say Intua is not dead!!!!

    We get that, personally I miss MG's efficiency and speed on fixing things...
    ...so I wish V the best of luck with whatever he's still doing :sunglasses:

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  • @tja said:

    I never noticed an IAP within Loopy Pro. So far.
    Either this is new, or you got something wrong.

    You have to pay the IAP for Loopy Pro if you intend to use it past the 7 day trial...

  • @Samu said:

    @tja said:

    I never noticed an IAP within Loopy Pro. So far.
    Either this is new, or you got something wrong.

    You have to pay the IAP for Loopy Pro if you intend to use it past the 7 day trial...

    Also the developer said that future loopy Pro updates/features will be IAP and got some more things down the line. I think it’s a really good model.

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  • @tja said:

    You have to pay the IAP for Loopy Pro if you intend to use it past the 7 day trial...

    Now... that's just buying the App, after the trial 😅

    It's still technically an IAP ;)

    Will be interesting to see what happens after one year has passed and it's time for the 'extended/new features' IAP to drop...
    ...ie. will 'both' IAPs be needed by new first time users to get 'everything' or will 'everything' be included with base 'unlock' for one year forward?

    Oh well, I have no plans to get Loopy Pro at this point...
    ...still doing my app-cleanup and being very, very selective on what to get.

    Cheers!

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  • Well I really hope some dev takes what the BM3 sampler is and brings it to AUv3.

    It’s a killer instrument. In fact I like all the components of BM3 but just hate the sequencing and audio rendering which has been broken/weird since release.

  • wimwim
    edited February 2022

    @tja said:

    @Samu said:

    @tja said:

    You have to pay the IAP for Loopy Pro if you intend to use it past the 7 day trial...

    Now... that's just buying the App, after the trial 😅

    It's still technically an IAP ;)

    Will be interesting to see what happens after one year has passed and it's time for the 'extended/new features' IAP to drop...
    ...ie. will 'both' IAPs be needed by new first time users to get 'everything' or will 'everything' be included with base 'unlock' for one year forward?

    Oh well, I have no plans to get Loopy Pro at this point...
    ...still doing my app-cleanup and being very, very selective on what to get.

    Cheers!

    I would expect to be just one IAP every year or so and whenever you buy, you get all current features and those for the next year. Buy in 10 years to get everything - but you need to wait 10 years 😅

    I also try to reduce my Apps, but Loopy Pro?!?
    It is SUCH versatile!
    Really...

    It is exactly this. It's not a new version. It's an IAP purchase 12-months after your last purchase to get another year of feature updates.

    Don't pay and you still get bug-fixes forever but no new features. Pay three years later and get all the updates to that point even though you didn't pay each year. Features will be rolled out continually, not corresponding to any yearly cycle that's tied to payments and not with new app purchases. If you're paid up you just get all the updates as they come out. If not, you keep what you have, and Michael will provide updates to keep it running.

    This is very different from the per-feature or per-version IAPs we're all used to. It's a new approach that seems to be hard for many people to wrap their heads around.

    (TBH, I wouldn't buy in to this model with Intua the way they are. For me it only works for a developer that I can trust to have more energy and communication than they do.)

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  • @hansjbs said:
    Those who want to believe BM3 is dead, cool, believe that. As someone who’s been a fan and using it since version 1, what we call lack of communication has been there since BM1. Would it better if they communicate more yes but it comes with it’s disadvantages as well. The company been this way for a while and I don’t see this changing.
    I will repeat it again, BM3 is not dead or should I say Intua is not dead!!!!

    This... totally agreed :love:

  • @hansjbs said:
    Why do you think serato decided to create Serato Studio from having Serato Sample first?

    Not sure you could've given a better example to make my case.

    Serato's 'Sample' is a fantastic plugin. It has great time-stretching and pitch algorithms and has a wonderfully simple and unique workflow. As an owner, I was entitled to a 3-month trial of 'Studio'. Nothing about the full suite convinced me that it was a better option for me than using 'Sample' within a program I've been using for about 17 years. More than that, I'm inclined to believe that had 'Studio been released first there'd have been a majority wishing they could just have access to the sampler to use within their go-to DAW. This is no different to the many people who want Ableton's "Simpler' available in their DAW of choice...and no different to the situation we have here

  • @wim said:

    @tja said:

    @Samu said:

    @tja said:

    You have to pay the IAP for Loopy Pro if you intend to use it past the 7 day trial...

    Now... that's just buying the App, after the trial 😅

    It's still technically an IAP ;)

    Will be interesting to see what happens after one year has passed and it's time for the 'extended/new features' IAP to drop...
    ...ie. will 'both' IAPs be needed by new first time users to get 'everything' or will 'everything' be included with base 'unlock' for one year forward?

    Oh well, I have no plans to get Loopy Pro at this point...
    ...still doing my app-cleanup and being very, very selective on what to get.

    Cheers!

    I would expect to be just one IAP every year or so and whenever you buy, you get all current features and those for the next year. Buy in 10 years to get everything - but you need to wait 10 years 😅

    I also try to reduce my Apps, but Loopy Pro?!?
    It is SUCH versatile!
    Really...

    It is exactly this. It's not a new version. It's an IAP purchase 12-months after your last purchase to get another year of feature updates.

    Don't pay and you still get bug-fixes forever but no new features. Pay three years later and get all the updates to that point even though you didn't pay each year. Features will be rolled out continually, not corresponding to any yearly cycle that's tied to payments and not with new app purchases. If you're paid up you just get all the updates as they come out. If not, you keep what you have, and Michael will provide updates to keep it running.

    This is very different from the per-feature or per-version IAPs we're all used to. It's a new approach that seems to be hard for many people to wrap their heads around.

    (TBH, I wouldn't buy in to this model with Intua the way they are. For me it only works for a developer that I can trust to have more energy and communication than they do.)

    I actually think it's a great model - A win/win for customer and developer. However, I'd be curious to see their sales figures as they entered Q4. Surely people wanting to buy later in the year will hold off a couple of months to activate their après-demo activation, waiting until the new update cycle starts.

  • I think what would be incredible is if @elf_audio decided to incorporate the deeper features from the BM3 sampler into Koala. That would be clean up time 🧹

  • edited February 2022

    @hansjbs I wasn’t able to contact dev nor create an Intua forum account several months ago. Could you report, if possible for you, that issue me and others have encountered with BM3 knobs sensitivity. Other than that, the app is mostly very stable and hyper capable, I don’t have other true issues with it:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/48010/beatmaker-3-knobs-sensivity-added-loopy-pro-macros-control-slider-over-workaround/p1

    Thanks in advance :)

  • for me, the lack of PDC makes it impossible to work in BM3

  • @Turok said:
    for me, the lack of PDC makes it impossible to work in BM3

    What is PDC?

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