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Neither sEGments or EGPulse are in BM3’s league as samplers. Not even close.
Just suggesting other apps.
Personally I’ve moved on from BM3 to Drambo and not looking back. There’s really nothing i miss and i find the Drambo workflow much better for what i produce.
There is no reason why it would have to be a clunky AU. Personally, I don’t find the sampler’s integration with the DAW critical to my workflow.
I can understand that it might not economically be worth the effort given the iOS developer economy.
It would because a lot of the functionality of the sampler is related to the full app. If the developer were to make an AU version of the sampler, certain features wouldn’t be able to translate properly and you would end up with an app that doesn’t equal the sampler in BM3 and guess what that would cause……complaints, complaints, and impossible feature request to get it as close to BM3’s
To each there own of course. One example: I find being able to sample any track or internal bank on a whim without the need to set up an AU fx for routing (like AU samplers require) to be critical. Running an AU sampler would not enable this and to me would then fall under my subjective label of ‘clunky’.
It does work well enough once you know the quirks. I just make a mess adding new version numbers to the sessions I am working on. Then I eventually save a copy with all samples collected and add a _col extension, knowing that this one has all the samples and recordings contained in it. Then I just delete all the non _col versions.
ahhh, I figured something must be going on lately. Yah I did notice some samples were broken recently. They actually were in the sessions sample folder too, same names and everything but it seemed like the file connection just broke. Hope this gets updated eventually.
I have been involved in audio software development enough to know that I would not have to be clunky and that the the set of features not directly reliant on integration with the DAW is large enough that one could create an extraordinarily satisfying sampler plugin.
Whether that is economically feasible is a whole different question.
No doubt they could make a nice AU sampler plugin. I just think AU samplers are clunky by nature.
I doubt there’s a single person here who _**doesn’t **_ understand it. But just because it wouldn’t be a 100% distillation of the entire BM experience doesn’t mean it couldn’t be a fantastic addition/extension to other DAW.
Of course not. But they, amongst others, are the current available options. Seems to be a huge untapped market here for the developers of BM. Maybe not.
And of course there is also Koala Sampler which has achieved Legend status on iOS imho. Since it went auv3, embracing the community and supporting his great app, Elf Audio has done something wonderful for mobile producers.
I cannot praise Koala enough. I need to definitely use it more than i do.
Koala in NS2 is pretty darn sweet. That to me is a super viable BM3 alternative given all the other NS2 niceties.
However, for me, supporting multiple pads (each of which can have separate pitch via it's own piano roll) and being able to simultaneously export multiple pads at the same time, each on their own without the need to solo or mute and constantly re-export is huge (thanks BM3). Anything less than that... Clunkytown!
It’s good to find a workflow that works.
Resample by directly in Koala and being able to play Loops and easily manipulate these loops and chopping and general SP404 really excites me about Koala. It’s more of an instrument than a DAW
I would love if BM3 adopted the range = x length principle of Koala.
I bet those samples were edited to be 2 bars or less. That’s what happens. It is fixed in the latest expired beta. I believe you were the one who told me about it 😂😂
But you do understand that it wouldn’t bring anything really different from what’s already out there.
If wouldn’t be any different than what’s already out there, there are auv3 sampler apps that does this. The only difference is that they’re not an internal sampler to a an app like BM3.
But you're comparing against your experience of the full DAW. Wouldn't it make more sense to view an AU version of the BM sampler in relation to what currently exists?
I don’t see Koala as a DAW. We should really be careful about naming things DAWs. My MPCs and maschine+ are not DAWs in my opinion, they are instruments/Grooveboxes
Not true. The BM3 sampler does bring a lot that isn't in other iOS samplers. There is quite a bit that it does. For, it os the only one that does realtime pitchshifting and timestretch at the same time which lets you play repitch timestretched samples on the fly. There is a lot more that no other package does or does as well.
Aside from the example @espiegel123 has given, do you really not think the stretching et. algorithms are better than the competition? (Genuine question, as I don't know). Is the sampler really only made special due to the framework in which it resides?
Also, within the model I suggested i.e to involve owning the full version, it would be possible to design kits in the full version but then have access to them in lighter versions, over many instances (Processor hit notwithstanding), in one's go-to DAW.
The only AU whose timestretching is of similar quality is Koala. The other AUs are not nearly as good.
Yeah, I was driving while texting this (shame on me). What I was trying to imply is that when using Koala I feel really free to play and hear what I'm playing since it's all about the sample and the moment. There isn't a lot of overhead one needs to think about and you can really use it like an instrument without too much fuss.
It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of something like BM3 and other production ready tools...but sometimes stepping into a groove and zoning out and evolving from that place is all that matters in my book. It's about the journey one can take...and I love journeys without much friction...and too many bathroom breaks
@espiegel123 and @el_bo which “sampler only” app on desktop can do what you guys want without being part of a larger picture? I think You guys are missing the point we’re trying to make. The sampler is tied to the rest of the app, removing it and making it AuV3 will not keep those functionalities that you love. @espiegel123 you said you work with audio software development so I’m sure you’ll understand of how complex it would be to have these types of features work well for an auv3 that will be used with various DAWs and how each of those DAWs audio engine are built. Why do you think serato decided to create Serato Studio from having Serato Sample first?
Please don’t do that again. Don’t drive and text, definitely not worth it for a forum discussion.
I definitely agree with you concerning Koala. Definitely a fun app to have in our arsenal.
i understand your point. i disagree. that's all.
Cool, nothing wrong with disagreements, we can agree to disagree 😂😂😂. Maybe one day someone will create that perfect auv3 sampler but for now I don’t see it in Intua’s future.
Texting is easy compared to using Drambo while driving.