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There's a large body of humor that uses insults and offensive language. It does require a knowledge of the person using the technique and a permission to offend. See "roast"... the person I selected for abuse
is my closes friend on the forum and I fully expected him to return fire with a more powerful weapon.
But thanks for asking for the clarification... it's a classy gesture.
I have repeatedly mentioned the benefits of a potential humor font so my attempts to break with
normality and a strictly fact based forum would be more obvious. Humor can be dangerous but
if skillfully applied it can also serve as a useful defense against bullies. They hate anyone laughing at their expense.
Now... can we get back to trying to make this thread useful for sharing information and jokes?
Who here has had and survived a Covid infection? I'm still taking extreme measures to protect
my immunodepressed spouse from the experience. I'm 3 vaccinations in with Moderna. The new pill
based option looks promising. No kidding.
Indeed, @McD, your post barely made my heart flutter. I just watched a movie called The Comedian with DeNiro. Excellent film and right up your alley. It’s on Hulu, I know you have it.
As far as busting my balls… as you can read from my fencing experience, I have no problem doing that on my own.
Ah… thank you - everything seems clearer now @McD. And I trust that your balls are now fully functional again @LinearLineman, I hope you are getting the most out of them.
I’m having a ball, thanks😉
I can’t decide what I’m more offended by, the initial post or the rebuttal of said post or the defence of.
What I do know for sure is, I am offended and some of you need to take a good long hard look at yourselves and make sure it never , ever happens again!
Lightning never shits in the same spot twice.
As for that "good hard look", I think the punishment should be proportional to the offense.
Can we share our pronouns... I'm learning towards "it/it's". Not because of gender but because I'm
loosing a connection to my humanity.
Thanks as well @Gravitas @icsleepers
This is what I think about talking about stuff. I did suspect that I would upset some people but that's life. I have a pm from Espiegel that I suspect will be more of the same but I haven't read it.
Did I mistakenly include Jacob Haq? No. It was a drive by therefore I included it.
Thanks to the people who took this in the spirit it was meant, to stimulate debate about what makes a community grow. And thanks to everyone who made a contribution to the thread.
You didn't thank your co-stars, the Academy or God...
Lol.
Yea, I would like to keep it a little tighter, but I also want to leave a little room for discussion about the apps that are one sale. I don’t claim any ownership, but my hope is, if it begins to be more then a few comments in the sales thread, those involved start a new thread to discuss it further.
I tried to do 2 threads this year, one was a list of sales only, and one was sales and discussion, but I didn’t have the time to update both on the regular so I defaulted to the second one.
@ashh: Personally, I find your remark about me insulting. You are casting shade and broadcasting assumptions about a message you haven't read. I don't believe that I have PM'ed you about any messages in this thread.
If you have an objection to something I said in this post, how about having a discussion rather than making insinuations.
I'm not quite sure what you mean but I think it's this: if I wanted people to support my assertion then I should have picked someone else who isn't quite as popular?
Someone has posted some stats about how many threads have been started by Jacob and how many posts they have written. I'm pretty sure that almost all of the threads were to publicise a video on his channel and the posts were replies on the threads. So maybe that's a clearer picture of what I'm talking about?
Anyway, let's put that to one side for a moment and consider this: if there are topics of conversation that are simply unacceptable on this forum then what does that say about the level of discussion here?
Or pick on nobody - just make your point without naming anyone.
Re-read my earlier point above about not naming anyone...
It simply says that there are some topics that are unacceptable to Michael (Mr. Audiobus who runs this site) and the AB community. These are probably "off limits" topics in the realm of politics, race, gender etc.. that get people upset and heated and do not belong on this forum. No big deal.
Your original post said you had a problem with "drive bys". The post ended with "what do you guys think?". You got your answer. Perhaps it's time to just let it rest.
Talking about something isn't picking on someone. If you want to put it in those terms I'm punching up. Clearly no one else here wants to talk about this side of the subject and no, I do not believe that I'm trying to push some kind of white power-adjacent agenda onto the people of this forum.
You mentioned Michael. He is an excellent example of someone who actually has done a gigantic amount for the iOS community. I have all day and twice on Sunday for him. But it seems that you believe that someone who works on YouTube has done similar amounts for this community? Like someone who works in a supermarket has for theirs?
I actually don't believe that everyone with a channel needs to keep it away from here. Some channels, old and new still need the support of this community and that is how I see it. We support them.
I still just ... cannot ... no matter how hard I try ... understand where you're coming from on this one @ashh. I just don't get how posting a video can be some kind of imposition? How somehow the creds to do that need to be earned in some way?
So confused. Seriously. I'm not being antagonistic. I'm not even saying it shouldn't bug you. It's just got me seriously scratching my head. Can you explain what it is that bothers you about it?
Let me just paste this that I was going to add on to my previous reply and I'll reply to you, Wim.
Eta: actually, after thinking about it, no one needs to keep it away from here. How about they simply engage with us outside of their own promotional threads? Isn't that what makes a community? That we support each other? And no, replying to people on your own thread isn't that, imo.
This is a community, right? Can we agree on that? I hope so. There are communities that thrive, one's that have died and everything in between. What makes a community? Now I've asked I'm not actually sure but I think it's something about mutual support.
If it is mutual support then think how much benefit this community could have from someone with a platform that supports us. Like we have supported them. As an aside, I'm interested to see that Jacob hasn't replied to this and I honestly think that is because he is not on these boards to see it.
So does this community thrive or simply chug along? If it did thrive (throve?) then maybe we could get that superb DAW we've all been wishing for. Or whatever. I guess that's what is under all of this for me.
As far as talking about it goes, it feels like this is actually bending your brain, Wim. That you think that this is hugely disrespectful. I guess I do too, but I think that taking enough to make a living without giving back is that disrespect.
I have to say I largely agree with @ashh on this. There are video promoters who take part in a wide range of threads, not just about their own products. Others, though, do only come here to promote their stuff, or only take part in their own promotional discussions. I think that because this is such a supportive, friendly community, where everybody generally helps each other out, there’s a contrast in such limited input that can seem a little selfish, whatever its intentions.
Now you're putting words in my mouth. That's a bit naughty. I didn't actually say that or anything like that.
As I said before - your original post ended with "what do you guys think?". You got your answer.
Clearly, most people don't mind Jakob or Doug or whoever posting links to their videos on the forum. You don't like it. Fine. We all have our opinions.
Ok, I give up. I just am not going to get it I guess.
I feel like I stepped out onto a different planet.
Oh well. 😂✌️
Maybe we could get ashh and the guy with the iCloud issue on the other thread together for a chat
Fair enough, you did not but as it seemed, at the time, that it was going to be you and I discussing this then I chose to address a point that has been raised numerous times via the medium of my response to you. I apologise.
Not required. We're just ABF friends having fun here
Fun. Yeah. Subjective innit.
Anyway. Here's something you did say. I have my answer, now leave it. Firstly, if my mates could see you telling me to leave it they would be crying with laughter. I am the interface where dog meets bone. I am a No person. I feel like there are enough Yes people in the world. I feel like the Tyranny of Niceness is leading us to places that we won't like. So, there you go. I'll leave it when someone either tells me something that makes me think "ohhhhhh...." Or when I feel like we've talked it out. I'm not at either of those places.
No we’re not. We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune…
I would never tell you to leave it. I might suggest that perhaps you might want to leave it. It is up to you
Best video ever.
I would support a local Anarchist candidate tbf.
Many folks right here in this community have expressed zero interest in the mobile platform becoming like the desktop. Some don't appreciate AU plugins and the accompanying shift that took place a few years ago on this platform with the advent of AUv3 plugins and hosts. Unfortunately, many of those folks have left this virtual community.
There you go assuming again. Many developers used to interact a lot more in this virtual community. Why do you think they stopped, ashh?
I think they stopped for whatever reason humans have for stopping doing stuff. But that's not what you were getting at, was it? You were hinting that people like me make people like them feel unwelcome, right? Can you say some more about that?
eta: oh and some more about the forum history of disdain for AU plugins and any similarities with the Desktop model?
Wow!
Carry on...carry on.