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tahiche

@espiegel123 said:

@ronnieb said:

@tahiche said:

@ronnieb said:

@AudioGus said:

@ronnieb said:

@AudioGus said:

@gregsmith said:

@AudioGus said:

@gregsmith said:

@AudioGus said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@Kashi said:

@suitsus said:

@Kashi said:

You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet.

You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

Someone else might know different.

Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

Yes, but I think he assumed I was asking the same thing that you thought, size of the overall buffer and not wether or not you could capture a portion of that buffer on the fly, again ala Endlesss. I assume at this point that it cannot be done.

Not able to test atm but I think you could just setup 4 buttons to retrospective record for 1/2/4/8 bars no?
Or what I have is separate clips for each length. I am certain if you spend some time with the widgets you could figure out a way to implement this that works for you.

I think that is still different though because then you are still locked in at that point to committing to filling X bars.

Not if you’re using retrospective recording which is what endless is doing. My super basic bare bones auv3 template kinda does this. The orange clips are standard recording, the yellow clips are set to retrospective record, top row has specific lengths and the bottom just follow the master cycle. Is this not similar to what you’re looking for?

How do you set specific lengths for retrospective recording?. Can’t find it anywhere. Count out options are grayed out when choosing retrospective.
Cheers

You can just set the length of the clips individually in the clip settings

You can also use the master length available in the tempo panel without presenting the clip length.

You may know this but I mention it since it seems like this is a point confusion for some.

Ok I figured it out after reading some posts here. To clarify, I know that retrospective uses the master length. But that’s not “retrospective enough”, what I want is to decide how many bars I want to retro-record. So after reading some posts I did it with a gesture. It changes the master length and then records, but it’s instantaneous and after your playing, when you hit the rec button. So I’ve set up a couple of “retro recording “ buttons on a template, one for retro master (whatever master length is at that point), one for 2 bars, one for 8 bars and so on… works great.

espiegel123

@tahiche said:

@espiegel123 said:

@ronnieb said:

@tahiche said:

@ronnieb said:

@AudioGus said:

@ronnieb said:

@AudioGus said:

@gregsmith said:

@AudioGus said:

@gregsmith said:

@AudioGus said:

@lukesleepwalker said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@Kashi said:

@suitsus said:

@Kashi said:

You can set quantisation per individual loop so I think you can achieve what you want. Suggest you download and try before you buy!

Ok thanks I’ll look into that. Do you mean there might be a “no quantisation “ option which is what I will need. I realise that wanting things to NOT sync up with each other is anathema to most looping/sequencing software/hardware, and will confuse some forum members, but that really is what I want!

Yes, you can set loops to be free rather than 'Phase Locked'. Also, you should explore the record and play quantisation options to configure how you want to start and stop loops. You can record an FX tail after the loop ends, and an intro before the main body of the loop starts, too!

Yeah, all these things! It's simply amazing how many options you have to start/stop loops. Download and try for free?

Does the retrospective looper let you select the length of the uhhh, captured retrospection, after you have already been retrospecting, ala the Endlesss advanced looper setting?

I ask because I don't want to be blow my 7 day trial just yet.

You can indeed set the length of the loop beforehand. Just swipe up on the donut and set it there. It works beautifully with 1 bar, but I’ve had some problems with 4 bars for some reason.

I know you can set it beforehand but that is not what I am asking. In Endlesss you can choose to capture either the previous 1,2,4 or 8 bars on the fly, simply by tapping the waveform in one of the four quadrants. This is the best thing about Endlesss for me and why I would still use it over any other looper.

Only being able to set the length beforehand kind of limits the free flow creative potential of retrospective looping.

Oh I see! I’m not sure. It seems to capture a bar if you don’t set the length beforehand and there doesn’t seem to be a way to lengthen it that I can see.

Someone else might know different.

Edit: just seen @espiegel123 replied above

Yes, but I think he assumed I was asking the same thing that you thought, size of the overall buffer and not wether or not you could capture a portion of that buffer on the fly, again ala Endlesss. I assume at this point that it cannot be done.

Not able to test atm but I think you could just setup 4 buttons to retrospective record for 1/2/4/8 bars no?
Or what I have is separate clips for each length. I am certain if you spend some time with the widgets you could figure out a way to implement this that works for you.

I think that is still different though because then you are still locked in at that point to committing to filling X bars.

Not if you’re using retrospective recording which is what endless is doing. My super basic bare bones auv3 template kinda does this. The orange clips are standard recording, the yellow clips are set to retrospective record, top row has specific lengths and the bottom just follow the master cycle. Is this not similar to what you’re looking for?

How do you set specific lengths for retrospective recording?. Can’t find it anywhere. Count out options are grayed out when choosing retrospective.
Cheers

You can just set the length of the clips individually in the clip settings

You can also use the master length available in the tempo panel without presenting the clip length.

You may know this but I mention it since it seems like this is a point confusion for some.

Ok I figured it out after reading some posts here. To clarify, I know that retrospective uses the master length. But that’s not “retrospective enough”, what I want is to decide how many bars I want to retro-record. So after reading some posts I did it with a gesture. It changes the master length and then records, but it’s instantaneous and after your playing, when you hit the rec button. So I’ve set up a couple of “retro recording “ buttons on a template, one for retro master (whatever master length is at that point), one for 2 bars, one for 8 bars and so on… works great.

be aware that if you change the master length just before initiating the recording, the new master length needs to be less than the largest the master length has been. so if you plan on changing it at record time, you probably want to start with it set to the longest length you might want. For example, if you might want to retro record as far back as 16 measures....you should start with it at 16 measures. The master will hold 16 measures from then on even if the master length is shorter.

rickelal3

Wow played with the trial for a couple of days and just bought the full unlock today! What an app, thats all i can say! Blew all my expectations out the door. Is there any point of using AUM anymore? Is there anything AUM can do that loopy cant?

rickelal3

Is there anyway to connect a auv3 to midi app that’s not auv3 like soundprism or navichord?

espiegel123

@rickelal3 said:
Wow played with the trial for a couple of days and just bought the full unlock today! What an app, thats all i can say! Blew all my expectations out the door. Is there any point of using AUM anymore? Is there anything AUM can do that loopy cant?

AUM can handle IAA apps and handle multi input and output AUv3 and side-chaining.

espiegel123

@rickelal3 said:
Is there anyway to connect a auv3 to midi app that’s not auv3 like soundprism or navichord?

If they publish their virtual midi port or can direct their MIDI to Loopy Pro's virtual midi port, use Add Midi on the mixer page to add the appropriate MIDI port. you can then choose any AU in your project as a destination.

mistercharlie

@celtic_elk said:

@Michael_R_Grant said:

@mistercharlie said:
It would be good to move the discussion of the price over to the dedicated thread…

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/46425/breakout-discussion-of-pricing-business-models-from-loopy-pro-thread

… And leave this one for talking about all the great stuff in the app.

Also—just had an Octatrack moment. I realized I can load a stutter AU (Perforator) as an effect into a color channel. Let’s say the yellow channel

Then, I just resample anything into a yellow loop, and it gets glitched, instantly. It’s like sampling into a pre-sliced buffer on Octatrack. Wild stuff!

Or put Perforator on a bus and add a send to the loop colours!

Or Beatcutter, likewise.

Or GlitchCore, which is turning out to be very Octatrack-like!

espiegel123

Someone asked how to switch one audio input between different colors with different effects, monitoring wet and recording dry

Michael

@uncledave said:

@szczyp said:
MIDI works as you said, 5 stars and review written.
Maybe in the future session midi network will be seen as midi port? At least on my iPad it is hidden in LP.
AUM can use network midi port, LoopyPro not (yet).

As a workaround, you could use another app to receive Network MIDI and forward it to a port LP can see. Possible apps are AUM, Audiobus, MidiFire, probably others.

I’m probably really late with the reply, but LP does do network MIDI; you should see the name of the remote devices come up in the midi list.

Michael

@slicetwo said:
I hooked up LP to my 18i20 last night to really give it a go for my work flow. The goal was to record loops from 6 pieces of hardware. I ran into some issues/confusions as I worked through it.

1. I recorded some 4 bar drum loops and have it set to play the outro wrapped around, but now it’s actually doubling the drum loop the 2nd go around and causing phase issues. Same with a few instrument loops.

2. I am getting crackling at the beginning of almost every loop recorded. I’m starting the recordings then hitting play on my hardware since LP can’t sync, so it’s def capturing the proper beginnings.

3. I’m trying to do the 4 bar loop with 1 bar tail recording, but it seems like I have to arm LP, start the recording, then play the loop on the hardware, then stop it and try and edit the loop to fit with the tail. How, exactly, is the tail recording supposed to work?

Interesting! Would you mind sending me your crackly project? ([email protected]). And also the one with the weird doubling of the tail?

Pierre118

@Michael I think the IAP price in the LP Testflight version not matched with the actual App Store IAP price. If downloaded from the App Store the pricing is matched correctly.

Happy Xmas!

Michael

@Pierre118 said:
@Michael I think the IAP price in the LP Testflight version not matched with the actual App Store IAP price. If downloaded from the App Store the pricing is matched correctly.

Happy Xmas!

Ah yeah I saw that after I posted the reply 😄 I’m a little behind! And phew, that’s a relief. Weird bug though (but Apple’s, not mine - hurray!)

Happy Xmas!

Michael_R_Grant

A very simple jam, this - I’m barely using Loopy Pro here, but it’s a lot of fun to play Animoog Z on a Roli Seaboard Block. I’m not exactly a keyboard player, but I love how expressive MPE can be.

slicetwo

@Michael said:

@slicetwo said:
I hooked up LP to my 18i20 last night to really give it a go for my work flow. The goal was to record loops from 6 pieces of hardware. I ran into some issues/confusions as I worked through it.

1. I recorded some 4 bar drum loops and have it set to play the outro wrapped around, but now it’s actually doubling the drum loop the 2nd go around and causing phase issues. Same with a few instrument loops.

2. I am getting crackling at the beginning of almost every loop recorded. I’m starting the recordings then hitting play on my hardware since LP can’t sync, so it’s def capturing the proper beginnings.

3. I’m trying to do the 4 bar loop with 1 bar tail recording, but it seems like I have to arm LP, start the recording, then play the loop on the hardware, then stop it and try and edit the loop to fit with the tail. How, exactly, is the tail recording supposed to work?

Interesting! Would you mind sending me your crackly project? ([email protected]). And also the one with the weird doubling of the tail?

Can do! I didn't save as anything, but it should be easy enough to recreate. I'll get it to you today.

UPDATE: @Michael I think it may have been user error. I'm having trouble recreating it. I wish I had waited to initiate my trial period until the manual was available. I'm so lost in this whole thing. I'm definitely a RTFM person through and through.

hellquist

@ghost_forests said:

@hellquist said:
I do a lot of photography and photo editing. Late last year I came across a piece of software called Luminar. It looked great so I gave the free trial a spin, which was impressive, and I needed some of the functionality "NOW" (deadlines etc). During my trial they announced "the next version" (Luminar AI).

Ah yes, Luminar AI, otherwise known as the app that kills photography as an art form

Ah, haha, yes indeed, it can be abused for sure, just like HDR and Tonemapping etc can.
Like any tool I have found it can have its uses though. I've found it helpful when restoring photos. Also when I do sci-fi/fantasy themed image compositions/editing it can be very handy indeed. Especially its sky replacement on busy images can save a lot of time.

All of its functionality can of course be done without it too, so for me it has been more about saving time, when appropriate.

cuberoo_

Now wondering if it was a good idea to setup a little loopy pro playground last night and today using the iPad for Xmas cooking recipes… every ten minutes find myself switching to loopy pro, it’s so much fun. I think it is what I wanted with out realising it, really fun just recording short loops, sounds, and so on and then just jamming and tagging them to find interesting combinations.

@Michael thanks for a cool app.

Jumpercollins

Inspiring.

[Deleted User]

Report: LoopyPro is 100% worth the price. Best Christmas gift!
Edit: to add something, loopy pro kicked me to finały configure audio between two rme interfaces.
As I reported RME OCTAMIC XTC give full 24 outs only in BM3 AUM.
But If you run BM3 and leave in the background then full 24 in/out are available for other apps.
Yesterday I spent about 10 hours with LoopyPro and BM3 in the background (not used BM3 at all, only for enabling 24 outs into LP). And there was 0 crash.
LoopyPro…..my love!

[Deleted User]

@Michael said:

@uncledave said:

LP does do network MIDI; you should see the name of the remote devices come up in the midi list.

Thanks, I use iMac with not english language, so in AUM i see the network Sieć network 1, on iMac Sesja 1, in LP this port is not available , maybe its because of language?

celtic_elk

@szczyp: The equivalent in LP is "Virtual MIDI In," I think.

[Deleted User]

@celtic_elk said:
@szczyp: The equivalent in LP is "Virtual MIDI In," I think.

I would like to, but no. There is no signal from network at virtual, but I can send from others app to virtual…. And it is of course working.

EDIT; i use BM3 in background (for 24 outs in LoopyPro0 so I route from network in BM3 to LoopyPro virtual port , and this is working.

BTW do you know guys how to establish more network ports between iPad and OS X ?
Im able to connect ipad to iMac by wifi or ethernet but always there is one port with 16 ch, ‚i would like to have more ports. Do you know the trick?

espiegel123

@celtic_elk said:
@szczyp: The equivalent in LP is "Virtual MIDI In," I think.

Virtual midi in is where midi goes if you send midi from another app to Loopy. Network Session is something different.

espiegel123

@szczyp : Loopy will show a network midi port if there is one but looks like it doesn’t create one itself. It will be visible if you connect to one. I use MidiFire to make sure there is an active port connection.

The network midi port will show up as a midi device with a WiFi symbol rather “network midi”

Stuntman_mike

Merry Christmas @Michael!
Can you add the option to record multiple takes in Clips? Maybe a toggle switch in the Clip settings that will allow users to create new recordings after each bar until the user stops recording. Then users can choose the take they prefer or even comp takes.

ErrkaPetti

Just bought the unlock Loopy Pro - great app…

I’m perhaps not an looperguy, but, it feels nice to support Michael here - and, for his generosity to let us be here on the forum to discuss all kind of software/hardware, not just Audiobus and Loopy…

timelining

Just bought the unlock as well, as a Christmas present to myself. I think I’ll lock myself away tomorrow to watch tutorials and start messing around. In the meantime, I thought this community might like the gif I made of my mom’s puppy chasing her tail, looking quite a bit like a LP loop:

espiegel123

@ErrkaPetti said:
Just bought the unlock Loopy Pro - great app…

I’m perhaps not an looperguy, but, it feels nice to support Michael here - and, for his generosity to let us be here on the forum to discuss all kind of software/hardware, not just Audiobus and Loopy…

It is super useful as a sketchpad even if one isn't (as I am not) a loop-oriented player.

It is also great for setting up accompaniment for practicing or recording takes. I find it a lot quicker to use for those than a full-fledged DAW.

MatthewKay

Santa left me an update!

Samu

I admit I've not get dug into Loopy Pro but...
...if I would the question is.

When using the Apple Lightning Headset can I select any of the device-microphones (front, back, bottom etc) to do the recording?

I'd like to do this since the mic on the Lightning headset is prone to feedback when monitoring at higher levels...

AUM has nice settings allowing us to select any of the available device microphones for recording even when using a headset.

Cheers!

espiegel123

@Samu said:
I admit I've not get dug into Loopy Pro but...
...if I would the question is.

When using the Apple Lightning Headset can I select any of the device-microphones (front, back, bottom etc) to do the recording?

I'd like to do this since the mic on the Lightning headset is prone to feedback when monitoring at higher levels...

AUM has nice settings allowing us to select any of the available device microphones for recording even when using a headset.

Cheers!

I don't know what the options are for the lightning headset, but on my iPad 6, I have three mic choices: