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Tera Pro from VirSyn released (M1 added)

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  • @ElectroHead said:
    Recently got Tera Pro and a few days later,the Wavetable IAP. It can sound very good and is deep, while the interface is IMO logical and neat. But, I've had crashes using it in Drambo. In the latest crashed project I had three instances of TP: Touching a Drambo knob mapped to a parameter in one instance repeatedly caused all instances to crash, My iPad is 5th gen and it's on OS13.3. This project had TTAP and AUX Space in the send slots, and the there was only one AU processor in the thee racks with the instances of TP (a chorus). There were no CPU spikes and CPU usage was at about 40 to 50 percent. I'm slightly hesitant about updating the iOS because everything works pretty well and I don't want quicker battery drain or more CPU usage that the latest ios could cause. But, if it would make TP stable, I'd do it, but I'm doubtful this will be the case.

    If you like you can send me the project to [email protected]
    Best would be if you can make the project as small as possible while keeping it crashing. Then I will try to reproduce & fix.

  • @VirSyn said:

    If you like you can send me the project to [email protected]
    Best would be if you can make the project as small as possible while keeping it crashing. Then I will try to reproduce & fix.

    Thank you very much for your quick response! It's great that you are so responsive.

    So I went about systematically eliminating all AU3 processors, and when I opened the crashing project, got rid of K-Devices TTAP (a send not insert) and saved before toucgning crash-triggering knobs, when I reopened the project, no crashes when changing mapped TS parameters via Drambo, I then reloaded AU3FX Space and still no crashes, so it looks like the culprit was TTAP (which had just one parameter mapped to Drambo - feedback).

    It's beyond me as to how/why a plugin on a send fx channel could cause an AU instrument in a different rack to crash when a parameter on that different track is tweaked. Anyway, I'll try other effects as sends and will let you know if something similar happens.

    BTW. all three instances of TP in the crashing project were in the user folder, though I doubt that had influence.

  • I spoke too soon. Going back to this project, it is crashing even with all AUM processors removed. I've sent the Drambo project to [email protected]. If my custom Tera patches don't open in the project, I'll send them. (None use the wavetable osc)

  • I should stress - it appears it isn't TTAP causing the crash as I suggested in the post before last!

  • Hi, I’ve also had TeraPro max out the cpu meter in Aum - when loading Aum projects with TeraPro. This would make TeraPro unusable, as it was basically frozen. Removing, then reloading TeraPro fixes this bug. I reported this a while back using the online form, but didn’t receive a reply. Hopefully, this can be fixed as TeraPro is Super! 👍

  • @VirSyn said:
    Just uploaded a new version 1.4.2 with a new MONO/POLY button instead of a menu.

    Genius feature lol :wink:

    It's also possible now to directly write an App Review / make a Rating.
    Please test this function intensively :#

    Will try!

  • edited November 2022

    post moved

  • **@VirSyn said:
    New version 1.2.0 released!!!

    Midi program change via #nnn in preset name
    Has anybody managed to get this working? Does it only work in stanalone mode?**

    I want to send program change from an Octatrack on separate channels to two or three instances of TP loaded in Audiobus. I tried sending PC messages with a legacy bank loaded which has numbered presets, but no change. I can't see anything on settings page (e,g, enable Midi PC), and didn't find anything in the manual. I'd really appreciate some help with this. Per first trials, Tera P syncs really (including the multi-envelopes) well to external midi when loaded in Audiobus. I also mapped four CC parameters on each of two instances and no-hicups or crashes.

  • I found a post with info about Midi PC on the original Tera iOS. It uses NRPN: MSB(0) LSB(32) + Program Change #. I'll try this when I next hook up iPad to Octatrack.

  • edited November 2022

    @ElectroHead said:
    I found a post with info about Midi PC on the original Tera iOS. It uses NRPN: MSB(0) LSB(32) + Program Change #. I'll try this when I next hook up iPad to Octatrack.

    This won't work in Tera Pro.
    But the #nnn in the name works in Audio's and AUv3 too but the name must be written exactly like that for example:

    002 Preset2

    013 Another preset

  • edited November 2022

    uups, seem to be a formatting command here...
    Another try:

    "#002 Preset"
    "#013 Another Preset"

  • @VirSyn said:
    uups, seem to be a formatting command here...
    Another try:

    "#002 Preset"
    "#013 Another Preset"

    this concept is genius!!!!!

  • edited November 2022

    @VirSyn said:

    @ElectroHead said:
    I found a post with info about Midi PC on the original Tera iOS. It uses NRPN: MSB(0) LSB(32) + Program Change #. I'll try this when I next hook up iPad to Octatrack.

    This won't work in Tera Pro.
    But the #nnn in the name works in Audio's and AUv3 too but the name must be written exactly like that for example:

    002 Preset2

    013 Another preset

    Cheers Harry

    Do I understand correctly? It's necessary to save TP presets as AU3 presets in the AU host with # prefixed + three digit numbers and the AU3 host should then respond to standard Midi PC as opposed to MSB / LSB?

  • @ElectroHead said:

    @VirSyn said:

    @ElectroHead said:
    I found a post with info about Midi PC on the original Tera iOS. It uses NRPN: MSB(0) LSB(32) + Program Change #. I'll try this when I next hook up iPad to Octatrack.

    This won't work in Tera Pro.
    But the #nnn in the name works in Audio's and AUv3 too but the name must be written exactly like that for example:

    002 Preset2

    013 Another preset

    Cheers Harry

    Do I understand correctly? It's necessary to save TP presets as AU3 presets in the AU host with # prefixed + three digit numbers and the AU3 host should then respond to standard Midi PC as opposed to MSB / LSB?

    No, this has nothing to do with the AU Host presets. Just save the preset you want to use under a new name containing the #nnn

  • Oh, if this is via standard midi PC, not NRPN, this is very, very neat. Now I get > @cokomairena said:

    this concept is genius!!!!!

  • edited November 2022

    I've just had a longer session with the Octatrack sequencing, modulating and sending Midi PC to two instances of Tera Pro hosted in Audiobus on different midi channels. And so far it works great! Sync seems tight, including rhythmic multi-envelopes. So good that when you switch patches, the previous one continues to play/sound till end of the last note. I've been away from home and my hardware gear, spent some evenings patching TP. Really a joy to explore and patch, and now it seems it plays well with the Octatrack, this is now my fav iOS synth. You can create space with this thing without even using effects. Ipad 5th gen, OS 13 something, the CPU for two instances was between 30 and 50% (no other apps loaded in Audiobus).

  • @VirSyn In case you've missed it but there's a visual glitch in TeraPro.

    The 'Formant' module is shown twice every time it's used in a preset.

    11" M1 iPadPro, iPadOS16.1.1.

    I don't recall exactly at which version this happened but I suspect it's either when the WT oscillator or second WT oscillator got added.

    Cheers!

  • Yes, I have had the same thing.
    Nothing urgent though…

  • @Samu said:
    @VirSyn In case you've missed it but there's a visual glitch in TeraPro.

    The 'Formant' module is shown twice every time it's used in a preset.

    11" M1 iPadPro, iPadOS16.1.1.

    I don't recall exactly at which version this happened but I suspect it's either when the WT oscillator or second WT oscillator got added.

    Cheers!

    This bug started with the first WAVES oscillator added to Tera Pro and it will stop as soon as the second WAVES Oscillator is being added in the very near future :D

    Thanks!

  • @VirSyn said:

    This bug started with the first WAVES oscillator added to Tera Pro and it will stop as soon as the second WAVES Oscillator is being added in the very near future :D

    Just out of curiosity, will you be adding more 'wave mangling' options the the WT Oscillator?

    I do have to admit I've not yet purchased the TeraPro WT IAP as I'm currently totally blown away by the table-mailing capabilities of the WT Oscillator in Drambo and especially its 'Wave Effects' of which you can stack as many as the CPU can handle :sunglasses:

    With that said I may end up getting the IAP soonish to support TeraPro as it is an over all amazing synth!

    Cheers!

  • The WAVES oscillator is a work in progress. Some ideas are already in my mind...
    Don't forget that the mangling options you have with connecting to other Tera Pro modules e.g. the Wave shaper/folder already does some wave weirdness.
    To think even further imagine building a two operator fm modulating each other with every operator is a WAVES module...
    This is possible because in Tera Pro there is no implicit direction of the signal flow, you can even have insane feedback loops.

  • @VirSyn said:
    The WAVES oscillator is a work in progress. Some ideas are already in my mind...
    Don't forget that the mangling options you have with connecting to other Tera Pro modules e.g. the Wave shaper/folder already does some wave weirdness.
    To think even further imagine building a two operator fm modulating each other with every operator is a WAVES module...
    This is possible because in Tera Pro there is no implicit direction of the signal flow, you can even have insane feedback loops.

    Yeah I managed to tie myself in interesting knots while noodling around last night, it’s all very flexible already!

  • Hi @VirSyn ,
    I was wondering : in addition to having A/B split and A+B layering, do you think it could be possible - and interesting - to have also A->B chaining ?
    So output of block A would serve as input of block B.
    Just wondering, not a real serious expectation. Thanks !

  • @Paulo164 said:
    Hi @VirSyn ,
    I was wondering : in addition to having A/B split and A+B layering, do you think it could be possible - and interesting - to have also A->B chaining ?
    So output of block A would serve as input of block B.
    Just wondering, not a real serious expectation. Thanks !

    Possible - Yes. Not sure about potential benefit but interesting idea...

  • @VirSyn said:
    This bug started with the first WAVES oscillator added to Tera Pro and it will stop as soon as the second WAVES Oscillator is being added in the very near future :D

    Is the “second Waves oscillator” a separate module to the current one? And if so, how is it different, and is it part of the WAVES IAP or a separate one?

  • @craftycurate said:

    @VirSyn said:
    This bug started with the first WAVES oscillator added to Tera Pro and it will stop as soon as the second WAVES Oscillator is being added in the very near future :D

    Is the “second Waves oscillator” a separate module to the current one? And if so, how is it different, and is it part of the WAVES IAP or a separate one?

    I believe it will be included in the WAVES IAP, and it will just allow a second instance of the Waves oscillator, similar to the existing Oscillator 1,2,3. But it has not been released as of Tera Pro version 1.4.4.

  • Any timing on waves 2, would love to play with it this weekend.

  • You can play it at weekend :) It will also have 50 additional presets using the two WAVES modules and some bug fixes too.

  • edited November 2022

    Info found. :D

  • @Paulo164 said:
    Hi @VirSyn ,
    I was wondering : in addition to having A/B split and A+B layering, do you think it could be possible - and interesting - to have also A->B chaining ?
    So output of block A would serve as input of block B.
    Just wondering, not a real serious expectation. Thanks !

    I'm still learning but would be possible to Swap A to B or B to A?
    I was working on a patch but really wanted A to be in B side. I have no idea what I'm saying LOL! But I hope you get my idea. 😆

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