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Hope they'll sort it out before the end of the sale!
Sold out eh'
For anyone who's been able to buy it...So it doesn't do regular 2 channel stereo IN after all? What happens if you put the splitter first in the chain, and hard pan each channel left and right?
@Cinebient supply is LIMITED!!
@thinds I know the feeling, I should probably spend more time with my other guitar app investments first
@supadom darn tootin'!
@ChrisG
I just tried it:
DrumPerfect-ToneStack-System Audio Out in AB.
Kick panned left, Snare panned right in DrumPerfect
ToneStack: Splitter-channel A:Reverb, channel B BigTremor
I did get stereo sound with effects applied separately (Reverb on the kick and Big Temor (tremolo) on the snare)
So it does work! Don't have a stereo hardware interface so could not try that.
I was only really interested by PolyOct and Octave Maker effects. Anyone tried them yet?
If it works with audiobus stereo in it will also work with hardware interface. Should.
@mmp said:
You had the kick and snare each panned left & right inside DrumPerfect? Did the sound play back unaltered going through ToneStack (no effects), with the pannings still the same as you set them in DrumPerfect, on the other end?
Yep. The splitter does have its own panning knobs, but even with those centered I still get the stereo as set in DP.
I'm a synth person. I sold my guitars long ago. I bought this earlier and I think it sounds really good for what I want to use it with, namely Audulus. I've been playing around with Animoog and Mitosynth as well. This will be a lot of fun trying to carve out a nice tone with all the synths we have available on iOS. The pedals are a great addition to the effects chain in AudioBus. I think this is is well worth the purchase, and Yonac did a very good job.
@mmp said:
Ok thanks!
@cinebient and @syrupcore When you say you only get a mono signal IN, is that in a regular app->ToneStack in the fx slot->audio out Audiobus chain, or are there external things involved?
Edit: Actually, nevermind. I'll just buy the thing and find out myself.
I have like 3 other guitar amp/fx apps, hence the questions
Still no luck down under
@JohnnyGoodyear said:
Ala Jan Hammer 35 years ago....
@ChrisG: Mmmhh... i'm really not sure what it does exact now. However, i also get a very compressed tiny sound even when i put no FX inside TS. When i now put a splitter in it it sounds very muddy and all the nice high frequencies are gone too. Maybe i don't understand this app yet and i will try something more....
Ok so did some quick testing. And it accepts a stereo signal. However, all units (except a couple) processes only one channel (aka mono). So a clean signal chain, and you will get a "clean" stereo signal on the other end. Slap any effect, reverb, echo, phaser, whatever on that chain and it'll be processed as a mono signal (if the effect has a wet/dry knob you can blend the dry stereo signal with the wet Y mono signal).
But it does have a splitter. Which basically gives you two signal paths, where you can freely put amps and effects on either left or right. And you can pan each path however you want. This does gives it a lot more flexibility and options then if you were simply restricted to a Y (mono) signal, or a wet/dry combo signal. But either way, to put it simply, it is basically a Y mono processing unit (so run a synth with some cool stuff going on on the sides through ToneStack, slap a reverb inside ToneStack and that reverb will only affect the middle/y/mono part of the signal).
I got stereo in from my double neck through apogee one into tonestack! Sweet to have bass and guitar on separate channels in one app! I'll have to do some more testing later and also get the mother load.
@ChrisG This is how I got stereo sound. Could use some better EQ. My AB chain was Animoog-Sunrizer-Mitosynth to ToneStack to AudioOut. Here is my ToneStack patch, bank, and the wav I used if you'd like them. https://www.dropbox.com/s/82utpl9vt2bwkno/Mine.tban
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mha7mvmnntsjwmw/MitoMoog2.tpat
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wrs4y655l42ookb/Mitosynth+Animoog+Sunrizer.wav
It's available in Oz now
@ChrisG: Thx for clearing it up a bit for me
But why it sounds so damn compressed, even without any FX on it. It destroys totally the "body" of my synth 
Sure i will get something out of this app.... 
@ArcaneScreams: I also tryed it with a lot of synths and yes there is a stereo when i put f.e. MasterFX in the output. But the sound is far away from the original. Sound like it would be filtered trough a LP filter. When i turn TS off it sounds great again. Miss i something?
@Cinebient Hi. I agree. I've noticed that too. I think this is going to be trial and error as far as synths go. What seems to be working for me, is playing with the ToneStack EQ, and different mic distances. It's not perfect yet by any means, but I think I'm getting further away from the LP sound you mention.
Thanks for the preset @ArcaneScreams, looks like a fun one! I still haven't bought anything else beyond the base package, so I'm missing one or two things. Gonna try it out ASAP tho. This is another cool thing, the easy sharing combined with the splitter abilities inside the app makes for some fun preset sharing me thinks.
And yes, I also noticed it does something to the sound on a clean signal path. Dunno what tho..
@mrufino1 said:
Magellan owners: Are there enough differences to justify buying the ToneStack base?
Yeah, no problem. I'm hoping some guitar players speak a bit about this sound we're noticing. Thinking of it, maybe adding in Remaster or another EQ in front of the ToneStack signal chain would help.
Well, just picked up the base package. I haven't made any sounds through it yet, but I have to say the UI is very well thought out and intuitive. And my mind is just racing with the possibilities. Between the ABY splitter than can split by frequency band and having every single parameter MIDI controllable, just imagining this in conjunction with something like Lemur, it becomes a semi-modular FX playground. Nice!
It looks like you can possibly use the Tape deck to record a dry signal, then crank the fx send all the way up and be able to start tweaking your chain without having to play your guitar. Hopefully that's the case - that's a great feature.
In the settings you can set input and output levels, these could have an impact on the 'dry' signal as well I suppose; as well as buffer size and simulation quality (med, high and very high). Could there also be a conversion in sample rate somewhere along the way or something like that?
@SuperNiCd said:
For me, this is why it was an insta-buy. I've been staring at effect schematics for the past few weeks, trying to figure out how to start building any of those in Audulus. For what ToneStack is, the price is super cheap. I see apps as modules in a modular synth, which is why I'm so adamant about full integration with IAA, AB, midi, etc. Yonac got this right, straight out of the box. I hope other big house devs take note for future app releases.
I emailed a question about the IAA performance and had a response within a few hours, with an encouraging answer to the question. I like this developer's style of customer service. I'd invite him to my imini tabletop for a drink anytime ...;-)
It seems also - re: the stereo issue - that if you use anything that does not process stereo in the chain - e.g. just a cab - it will fold to mono. That goes with what was said above re: having a dry/wet mix - a cab doesn't.
So, e.g. in the pics below: With just a cab in each chain, result is mono - even from an input signal that has ping pong - as I did with the NLogPro patch I chose. With Studio Delay - the original stereo does pass thru'.
And ...