DRAMBO 2.0 is LIVE!!!

Samu

@bleep said:

I set up some simple experiments yesterday and got the impression that the output from the second effect depended on what the first effect did. Maybe it was not the best set up to verify, so would be nice to get some confirmation.

Just checked...

The Punch-In FX rack can fade in/out between the effects (long tap on note) and with longer fade in/out times it sounds like they are playing together at least for the fade duration.

bleep

It must be series mode. Put Perforator in the first fx layer, with only one beat letting audio through. You will not hear anything from the second effect, except during that one beat. They are playing together, but not by parallel processing. Fx1 ==> Fx2 etc.

bleep

Reading about Kontakt Finger (mentioned in video), they say: "The order you trigger the notes is the order the effects get layered in, so chains can be arranged and re-arranged in no time". Perhaps this is done in Drambo as well?

Samu

@bleep said:
It must be series mode. Put Perforator in the first fx layer, with only one beat letting audio through. You will not hear anything from the second effect, except during that one beat. They are playing together, but not by parallel processing. Fx1 ==> Fx2 etc.

For now Punch-In FX doesn't accept more than one midi-note at the time and since you go from C2 (1st layer) to C#2(2nd layer) only C#2 will play while you're still holding down C2, when you release C#2 it will go back to C2.

They are both processed in parallel but you can only hear one of them playing at one time, there's no 'Send Layer 1 to Layer 2'.

Feel free to post the question/issue over at the BeepStreet forum.
http://forum.beepstreet.com

Cheers!

cokomairena

Emojis do not display completely on clips names

[Deleted User]

What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

rs2000

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

Grandbear

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

Hi @rs2000 does this have to be enabled somehow? I'm not seeing that output option, in iPhone or iPad, with or without an interface attached

Samu

@Grandbear said:

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

Hi @rs2000 does this have to be enabled somehow? I'm not seeing that output option, in iPhone or iPad, with or without an interface attached

The new update just dropped with the Midi Feedback option

Grandbear

@Samu said:

@Grandbear said:

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

Hi @rs2000 does this have to be enabled somehow? I'm not seeing that output option, in iPhone or iPad, with or without an interface attached

The new update just dropped with the Midi Feedback option

Aah another update! Thanks!

bcrichards

@bleep @Samu punch in fx is definitely routed in series lowest to highest. This allows for some pretty wild stuff.

Samu

@bcrichards said:
@bleep @Samu punch in fx is definitely routed in series lowest to highest. This allows for some pretty wild stuff.

But as Giku put in another forum, they are processed in parallel…
So we need a poly mode for it to play all layers at the same time if needed.
There is no layer routing being done…

bcrichards

@Samu i think he may have been referring to some other kind of meaning for parallel processing …if you put a low pass on the first layer and then anything on the second and play both notes at a time, you can clearly here that the low pass on the first layer effects the second layer. It is routed in series but essentially bypasses the layers that aren’t active.

[Deleted User]

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

thx, do you know if there is any difference from the „Drambo” port beside name and separation?
(why nor used Drambo1, Drambo2 etc?)

Samu

@bcrichards said:
@Samu i think he may have been referring to some other kind of meaning for parallel processing …if you put a low pass on the first layer and then anything on the second and play both notes at a time, you can clearly here that the low pass on the first layer effects the second layer. It is routed in series but essentially bypasses the layers that aren’t active.

Then it’s a bug…

rs2000

@szczyp said:

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

thx, do you know if there is any difference from the „Drambo” port beside name and separation?
(why nor used Drambo1, Drambo2 etc?)

Indeed there's a significant difference. Choosing 'Drambo' will send MIDI data to the outgoing MIDI port which is not connected to the 'Drambo' input port. These are separate streams that until now could only be connected using an external app like Streambyter, Mozaic etc.

The output port of 'MIDI feedback' on the other hand is directly connected to the 'MIDI feedback' input port so everything you send it will also be available on its input.

[Deleted User]

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

thx, do you know if there is any difference from the „Drambo” port beside name and separation?
(why nor used Drambo1, Drambo2 etc?)

Indeed there's a significant difference. Choosing 'Drambo' will send MIDI data to the outgoing MIDI port which is not connected to the 'Drambo' input port. These are separate streams that until now could only be connected using an external app like Streambyter, Mozaic etc.

The output port of 'MIDI feedback' on the other hand is directly connected to the 'MIDI feedback' input port so everything you send it will also be available on its input.

thank you for infos! thats great improovement over Drambo port, finally we have internal Midi bus.

Lorichs

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

thx, do you know if there is any difference from the „Drambo” port beside name and separation?
(why nor used Drambo1, Drambo2 etc?)

Indeed there's a significant difference. Choosing 'Drambo' will send MIDI data to the outgoing MIDI port which is not connected to the 'Drambo' input port. These are separate streams that until now could only be connected using an external app like Streambyter, Mozaic etc.

The output port of 'MIDI feedback' on the other hand is directly connected to the 'MIDI feedback' input port so everything you send it will also be available on its input.

Yess. I have been hoping for this feature 😊

Jeezs

@Samu said:

@Paa89 said:
hi there guys. just got the ew update.
i’m trying to use the app but it ask about drambo folder which i can’t seem to find in files app. any ideas what the issue could be?

Did you launch the stand-alone after downloading the update? (and to be on the safe side also reboot your iPad?).
(I've only been able to test it with iPadOS15 & 16 and it works in both of them).

I have the same problem with Drambo ( 8 outputs version only) and AUM.
I can’t load any of my songs anymore.Is there a solution?
Thanks

uncledave

@Jeezs said:

@Samu said:

@Paa89 said:
hi there guys. just got the ew update.
i’m trying to use the app but it ask about drambo folder which i can’t seem to find in files app. any ideas what the issue could be?

Did you launch the stand-alone after downloading the update? (and to be on the safe side also reboot your iPad?).
(I've only been able to test it with iPadOS15 & 16 and it works in both of them).

I have the same problem with Drambo ( 8 outputs version only) and AUM.
I can’t load any of my songs anymore.Is there a solution?
Thanks

What is your iPadOS version?

Have you launched Drambo stand-alone?

Have you tried the new update, Drambo 2.21? It fixes some glitches in 2.20.

Samu

@Jeezs said:

@Samu said:

@Paa89 said:
hi there guys. just got the ew update.
i’m trying to use the app but it ask about drambo folder which i can’t seem to find in files app. any ideas what the issue could be?

Did you launch the stand-alone after downloading the update? (and to be on the safe side also reboot your iPad?).
(I've only been able to test it with iPadOS15 & 16 and it works in both of them).

I have the same problem with Drambo ( 8 outputs version only) and AUM.
I can’t load any of my songs anymore.Is there a solution?
Thanks

You can switch back to using the the old style file-system in the Drambo settings, nothing is lost apart from not being able to access the files using the Files.app.

Both versions (single and 8 outs) work just fine in my 11” M1 iPadPro, iPadOS 16.2.

Works fine on my iPad Air 2, iPadOS15.7.2 as well.
And iPhone 8, iOS16.2.

Report it back to the dev over at the beepstreet forums…

Speedball

No answer on the FAC thread, so i try here:

im not really sure if my question is a FAC Drumkit question, or rather a question for the Drambo thread. If i want use Multi Out in Drambo, eg. to add some Reverb or Delay on a certain Sound, i do the following:

It works on Bram Bos apps like this, why is it not working for FAC DK ? Is there anything i need to change in Drumkits settings ?

Thank you and merry christmas.

Samu

@Speedball said:
No answer on the FAC thread, so i try here:

im not really sure if my question is a FAC Drumkit question, or rather a question for the Drambo thread. If i want use Multi Out in Drambo, eg. to add some Reverb or Delay on a certain Sound, i do the following:

It works on Bram Bos apps like this, why is it not working for FAC DK ? Is there anything i need to change in Drumkits settings ?

Thank you and merry christmas.

By default the multi outs from Ruismaker etc. are hard mapped.
FAC Drumkit uses a bit different method for routing the sounds and these routings are ‘per kit’ n the mixer page, so when you swap a kit you need to re-route the outputs on the mixer page.

It can be done so experiment a bit…

Most sounds FAC DrumKit is able to produce can easily be done using Drambo’s built-in modules.

Cheers!

Jeezs

@Jeezs said:

@Samu said:

@Paa89 said:
hi there guys. just got the ew update.
i’m trying to use the app but it ask about drambo folder which i can’t seem to find in files app. any ideas what the issue could be?

Did you launch the stand-alone after downloading the update? (and to be on the safe side also reboot your iPad?).
(I've only been able to test it with iPadOS15 & 16 and it works in both of them).

I have the same problem with Drambo ( 8 outputs version only) and AUM.
I can’t load any of my songs anymore. . Is there a solution?
Thanks

@uncledave said:

@Jeezs said:

@Samu said:

@Paa89 said:
hi there guys. just got the ew update.
i’m trying to use the app but it ask about drambo folder which i can’t seem to find in files app. any ideas what the issue could be?

Did you launch the stand-alone after downloading the update? (and to be on the safe side also reboot your iPad?).
(I've only been able to test it with iPadOS15 & 16 and it works in both of them).

I have the same problem with Drambo ( 8 outputs version only) and AUM.
I can’t load any of my songs anymore.Is there a solution?
Thanks

What is your iPadOS version?

Have you launched Drambo stand-alone?

Have you tried the new update, Drambo 2.21? It fixes some glitches in 2.20.

Yes I’ve launch drambo stand alone, as I said it only occurs wit( the multi out bus version of Drambo.
My iPad version is iPadOS 16.2
The problem happen since version 2.21 , version 2.20 has also the problem but I can solve it launching stand alone version, with 2.21 impossible to launch it without this error.

Jeezs

@Samu said:

@Jeezs said:

@Samu said:

@Paa89 said:
hi there guys. just got the ew update.
i’m trying to use the app but it ask about drambo folder which i can’t seem to find in files app. any ideas what the issue could be?

Did you launch the stand-alone after downloading the update? (and to be on the safe side also reboot your iPad?).
(I've only been able to test it with iPadOS15 & 16 and it works in both of them).

I have the same problem with Drambo ( 8 outputs version only) and AUM.
I can’t load any of my songs anymore.Is there a solution?
Thanks

You can switch back to using the the old style file-system in the Drambo settings, nothing is lost apart from not being able to access the files using the Files.app.

Both versions (single and 8 outs) work just fine in my 11” M1 iPadPro, iPadOS 16.2.

Works fine on my iPad Air 2, iPadOS15.7.2 as well.
And iPhone 8, iOS16.2.

Report it back to the dev over at the beepstreet forums…

Same iPadOS version here, I have an iPad Pro 11” 2020. Will try to revert to old file system option.
Thanks

Jeezs

@Samu said:

@Jeezs said:

@Samu said:

@Paa89 said:
hi there guys. just got the ew update.
i’m trying to use the app but it ask about drambo folder which i can’t seem to find in files app. any ideas what the issue could be?

Did you launch the stand-alone after downloading the update? (and to be on the safe side also reboot your iPad?).
(I've only been able to test it with iPadOS15 & 16 and it works in both of them).

I have the same problem with Drambo ( 8 outputs version only) and AUM.
I can’t load any of my songs anymore.Is there a solution?
Thanks

You can switch back to using the the old style file-system in the Drambo settings, nothing is lost apart from not being able to access the files using the Files.app.

Both versions (single and 8 outs) work just fine in my 11” M1 iPadPro, iPadOS 16.2.

Works fine on my iPad Air 2, iPadOS15.7.2 as well.
And iPhone 8, iOS16.2.

Report it back to the dev over at the beepstreet forums…

Thanks reverting to the old file system solve the problem.
Thanks

jsmonzani

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

I’d like to send midi from track 2 to track 1. How can I use midi feedback for this please?

Here’s what I’ve done, but I’m unsure the midi feedback is working correctly when playing the keyboard. This works with StreamByter though.

• track 1 has my instrument, input is set to midi feedback and the track to always receive midi
• Track 2 has just an output module to midi feedback. To avoid a midi loop, I’ve tried setting its midi input to every possibility but “midi feedback” and even to disable its receiving midi.

Now if I enter notes on the track 2 sequencer manually, instrument on track 1 plays fine.
But if I play the keyboard on track 2, no sound is heard and track 2 blinks ultra quickly, as if it was receiving its own midi feedback input in a loop.

Thank you!

Speedball

@Samu said:

By default the multi outs from Ruismaker etc. are hard mapped.
FAC Drumkit uses a bit different method for routing the sounds and these routings are ‘per kit’ n the mixer page, so when you swap a kit you need to re-route the outputs on the mixer page.

It can be done so experiment a bit…

Most sounds FAC DrumKit is able to produce can easily be done using Drambo’s built-in modules.

Cheers!

Thanks very much, ill give it another try.

Interesting idea to rebuild Drumkit with Drambo modules…

cokomairena

@Samu said:

@bcrichards said:
@Samu i think he may have been referring to some other kind of meaning for parallel processing …if you put a low pass on the first layer and then anything on the second and play both notes at a time, you can clearly here that the low pass on the first layer effects the second layer. It is routed in series but essentially bypasses the layers that aren’t active.

Then it’s a bug…

I like this behavior, I cant imagine many scenarios where i would like parallel punch fx behaviour

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

thx, do you know if there is any difference from the „Drambo” port beside name and separation?
(why nor used Drambo1, Drambo2 etc?)

Indeed there's a significant difference. Choosing 'Drambo' will send MIDI data to the outgoing MIDI port which is not connected to the 'Drambo' input port. These are separate streams that until now could only be connected using an external app like Streambyter, Mozaic etc.

The output port of 'MIDI feedback' on the other hand is directly connected to the 'MIDI feedback' input port so everything you send it will also be available on its input.

Does this allow sending midi upstream? Like breaking the sequential flow paradigm of drambo? Can we have this for audio please 🤣

rs2000

@cokomairena said:

@Samu said:

@bcrichards said:
@Samu i think he may have been referring to some other kind of meaning for parallel processing …if you put a low pass on the first layer and then anything on the second and play both notes at a time, you can clearly here that the low pass on the first layer effects the second layer. It is routed in series but essentially bypasses the layers that aren’t active.

Then it’s a bug…

I like this behavior, I cant imagine many scenarios where i would like parallel punch fx behaviour

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:

@rs2000 said:

@szczyp said:
What is a new MIDI Feedback port?

Then select it as a track input etc.

thx, do you know if there is any difference from the „Drambo” port beside name and separation?
(why nor used Drambo1, Drambo2 etc?)

Indeed there's a significant difference. Choosing 'Drambo' will send MIDI data to the outgoing MIDI port which is not connected to the 'Drambo' input port. These are separate streams that until now could only be connected using an external app like Streambyter, Mozaic etc.

The output port of 'MIDI feedback' on the other hand is directly connected to the 'MIDI feedback' input port so everything you send it will also be available on its input.

Does this allow sending midi upstream? Like breaking the sequential flow paradigm of drambo?

Yes 😊

Can we have this for audio please 🤣

We have it already, and it's been available for a while now. The modules are called "Feedback Receive" and "Feedback Send".