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FLSM 4.1 released

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  • Oh that's what the arrows are for! 😂 I'm buzzed at the moment after a few cocktails at the pub so I'm not all there in my cranium. 🤣 Amazing app! FLSM just keeps getting better and better!

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic
    have one on me

    Cheers mate! 😉 🥃

  • edited December 2022

    Seems like they added this context menu somewhere in 4.x, didn’t they? I do not remenber this being there on checking with the initial release of V4. This is what I was asking for. Will do some more research...

  • @dermichl said:
    Seems like they added this context menu somewhere in 4.x, didn’t they? I do not remenber this being there on checking with the initial release of V4. This is what I was asking for. Will do some more research...

    I'll do more research too. I'm surprised at how much more is in FLSM to be honest in terms of features and functionality.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I'll do more research too. I'm surprised at how much more is in FLSM to be honest in terms of features and functionality.

    Bought when it came out, tried it for a while, no love between us. Tried it again this evening. Packed with a lot more functions for sure but still too fiddly, still hurts my eyes using it, no AUv3, still no love. This app is not for me but YMMV.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • What is it about the sound on this thing ? Best drum and synth tones on iOS besides Sampletank . Korg Module maybe but this thing is in a league of its own when it comes to “oooomph”

  • @Telstar5 said:
    What is it about the sound on this thing ? Best drum and synth tones on iOS besides Sampletank . Korg Module maybe but this thing is in a league of its own when it comes to “oooomph”

    Yeah, somehow it sounds very alive.

  • I don't have it on iOS, but on Android phone. I didn't think it was so good at first. But have a new device and reinstalled it. Oof... it's awesome now

  • It’s got an immediacy that nothing else has.

  • @Telstar5 said:
    It’s got an immediacy that nothing else has.

    It definitely does! I've been quicker to churn out Lofi tracks in FLSM on my iPhone than in NS2 on my iPad, and I'm pretty swift in NS2 on my iPad! I have created a new beat in 5|4 time in under 20 minutes, and after lunch I will arrange it, mix it, and export it.

    I still do my mastering in AUM when it comes to Lofi, and in fact I plan to live perform the whole EP in AUM much like I used to do with making live Ambient. But to be able to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed in FLSM on an iPhone SE 2 without much battery drainage or iPhone overheating is wonderful!

  • @senhorlampada said:
    I don't have it on iOS, but on Android phone. I didn't think it was so good at first. But have a new device and reinstalled it. Oof... it's awesome now

    Yes! There was a teacher in the iPad Musicians group on Facebook who asked a couple weeks ago which app she could teach her middle school students music production on, and so many gave great answers about iOS-only apps. I'm the one who suggested both Koala AND FLSM as they can also be used on Android.

    This is what got me to challenge myself to explore FLSM and make a Lofi EP on it. However I didn't expect FLSM to not be so easy as my impressions with past versions were not the greatest. But everything is damn simple but produces great results!

  • @DMfan said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I'll do more research too. I'm surprised at how much more is in FLSM to be honest in terms of features and functionality.

    Bought when it came out, tried it for a while, no love between us. Tried it again this evening. Packed with a lot more functions for sure but still too fiddly, still hurts my eyes using it, no AUv3, still no love. This app is not for me but YMMV.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    That's fair. 🙂

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Yes! There was a teacher in the iPad Musicians group on Facebook who asked a couple weeks ago which app she could teach her middle school students music production on, and so many gave great answers about iOS-only apps. I'm the one who suggested both Koala AND FLSM as they can also be used on Android.

    This is what got me to challenge myself to explore FLSM and make a Lofi EP on it. However I didn't expect FLSM to not be so easy as my impressions with past versions were not the greatest. But everything is damn simple but produces great results!

    Great suggestion. Whenever possible, it's great for teachers try to point students toward apps that are available on both platforms (even better if you have desktop options too) FLSM, Koala, Caustic, Flip Sampler, Zenbeats, Sunvox, Nanoloop, Pixitracker, Audio Evolution Mobile, Bandlab, etc.

    btw, not sure if its easy to download anymore, but Nanostudio 1 had desktop version too (free from what I recall).
    Sorry for the sidequest :tongue:

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    senhorlampada said:
    I don't have it on iOS, but on Android phone. I didn't think it was so good at first. But have a new device and reinstalled it. Oof... it's awesome now

    Yes! There was a teacher in the iPad Musicians group on Facebook who asked a couple weeks ago which app she could teach her middle school students music production on, and so many gave great answers about iOS-only apps. I'm the one who suggested both Koala AND FLSM as they can also be used on Android.

    This is what got me to challenge myself to explore FLSM and make a Lofi EP on it. However I didn't expect FLSM to not be so easy as my impressions with past versions were not the greatest. But everything is damn simple but produces great results!

    Oh, I did not realise FLSM was on Android as well. Do you (or anyone else) know if there is much different between the Android and iOS versions? I like Audio Evolution Mobile on my Android phone as I can use all my soundfonts on there and so don’t miss the lack of external plugins on Android. If the Android version of FLSM also supports DirectWave instruments then that would put it up there with AEM as I would be easily be able to get whatever sounds I wanted over there by knocking up some DWs using FL Studio on the desktop. Might even be worth buying a cheapie large screen Android tablet for taking out places I wouldn’t want to risk losing or damaging my iPad.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2022

    It's great to hear FLSM getting some positive press here. I've always had a soft spot for ImageLine. Fruity Loops, as it was called back then, was my first awakening to computer based music production and what got me back into playing in general. Lifetime Updates were an unheard of thing in the desktop world back then. And they've kept at it, adding value consistently for the more than 20 years I've owned FL Studio.

    But their iOS product have always made me too sad to keep on my iPad until recently. I don't know how many times I installed it and then deleted FLSM in disappointment. This last update, especially with the addition of 3xOSC, one of my top favorite synths of all time, is finally no longer unworthy of the ImageLine brand.

    That makes me happy (even though I don't actually use it much). 😎

  • FLMS is my “NS2 with audio tracks” replacement. It has its quirks and limitations but so do I. The workflow connects with my feeble brain and it’s fun to use. It’s not for everyone but then again, many apps that forum members crow about are not my cup either. 😎👍🏼

  • edited December 2022

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    senhorlampada said:
    I don't have it on iOS, but on Android phone. I didn't think it was so good at first. But have a new device and reinstalled it. Oof... it's awesome now

    Yes! There was a teacher in the iPad Musicians group on Facebook who asked a couple weeks ago which app she could teach her middle school students music production on, and so many gave great answers about iOS-only apps. I'm the one who suggested both Koala AND FLSM as they can also be used on Android.

    This is what got me to challenge myself to explore FLSM and make a Lofi EP on it. However I didn't expect FLSM to not be so easy as my impressions with past versions were not the greatest. But everything is damn simple but produces great results!

    Oh, I did not realise FLSM was on Android as well. Do you (or anyone else) know if there is much different between the Android and iOS versions? I like Audio Evolution Mobile on my Android phone as I can use all my soundfonts on there and so don’t miss the lack of external plugins on Android. If the Android version of FLSM also supports DirectWave instruments then that would put it up there with AEM as I would be easily be able to get whatever sounds I wanted over there by knocking up some DWs using FL Studio on the desktop. Might even be worth buying a cheapie large screen Android tablet for taking out places I wouldn’t want to risk losing or damaging my iPad.

    i use FLSM on both ios and android, and presets are the same, and files-wise are handled in the same way on both platforms (for DirectWave, along with the rest of the instruments including 3xOsc)

  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    jwmmakerofmusic said:

    senhorlampada said:
    I don't have it on iOS, but on Android phone. I didn't think it was so good at first. But have a new device and reinstalled it. Oof... it's awesome now

    Yes! There was a teacher in the iPad Musicians group on Facebook who asked a couple weeks ago which app she could teach her middle school students music production on, and so many gave great answers about iOS-only apps. I'm the one who suggested both Koala AND FLSM as they can also be used on Android.

    This is what got me to challenge myself to explore FLSM and make a Lofi EP on it. However I didn't expect FLSM to not be so easy as my impressions with past versions were not the greatest. But everything is damn simple but produces great results!

    Oh, I did not realise FLSM was on Android as well. Do you (or anyone else) know if there is much different between the Android and iOS versions? I like Audio Evolution Mobile on my Android phone as I can use all my soundfonts on there and so don’t miss the lack of external plugins on Android. If the Android version of FLSM also supports DirectWave instruments then that would put it up there with AEM as I would be easily be able to get whatever sounds I wanted over there by knocking up some DWs using FL Studio on the desktop. Might even be worth buying a cheapie large screen Android tablet for taking out places I wouldn’t want to risk losing or damaging my iPad.

    i use FLSM on both ios and android, and presets are the same, and files-wise are handled in the same way on both platforms (for DirectWave, along with the rest of the instruments including 3xOsc)

    Thanks Littlewoodg! Good to hear that they are the same across platforms. I did cave in and purchase the Android version last night and the short play I had with it confirms what you are saying as I could see no difference in the Android version.

  • @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    jwmmakerofmusic said:

    senhorlampada said:
    I don't have it on iOS, but on Android phone. I didn't think it was so good at first. But have a new device and reinstalled it. Oof... it's awesome now

    Yes! There was a teacher in the iPad Musicians group on Facebook who asked a couple weeks ago which app she could teach her middle school students music production on, and so many gave great answers about iOS-only apps. I'm the one who suggested both Koala AND FLSM as they can also be used on Android.

    This is what got me to challenge myself to explore FLSM and make a Lofi EP on it. However I didn't expect FLSM to not be so easy as my impressions with past versions were not the greatest. But everything is damn simple but produces great results!

    Oh, I did not realise FLSM was on Android as well. Do you (or anyone else) know if there is much different between the Android and iOS versions? I like Audio Evolution Mobile on my Android phone as I can use all my soundfonts on there and so don’t miss the lack of external plugins on Android. If the Android version of FLSM also supports DirectWave instruments then that would put it up there with AEM as I would be easily be able to get whatever sounds I wanted over there by knocking up some DWs using FL Studio on the desktop. Might even be worth buying a cheapie large screen Android tablet for taking out places I wouldn’t want to risk losing or damaging my iPad.

    i use FLSM on both ios and android, and presets are the same, and files-wise are handled in the same way on both platforms (for DirectWave, along with the rest of the instruments including 3xOsc)

    Thanks Littlewoodg! Good to hear that they are the same across platforms. I did cave in and purchase the Android version last night and the short play I had with it confirms what you are saying as I could see no difference in the Android version.

    They do seem to have more issues with Android from what I’ve seen on their forums. Seems to be due to the variety of hardware and OS issues regarding storage. Makes iOS look like a much better music platform.

  • @anickt said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    jwmmakerofmusic said:

    senhorlampada said:
    I don't have it on iOS, but on Android phone. I didn't think it was so good at first. But have a new device and reinstalled it. Oof... it's awesome now

    Yes! There was a teacher in the iPad Musicians group on Facebook who asked a couple weeks ago which app she could teach her middle school students music production on, and so many gave great answers about iOS-only apps. I'm the one who suggested both Koala AND FLSM as they can also be used on Android.

    This is what got me to challenge myself to explore FLSM and make a Lofi EP on it. However I didn't expect FLSM to not be so easy as my impressions with past versions were not the greatest. But everything is damn simple but produces great results!

    Oh, I did not realise FLSM was on Android as well. Do you (or anyone else) know if there is much different between the Android and iOS versions? I like Audio Evolution Mobile on my Android phone as I can use all my soundfonts on there and so don’t miss the lack of external plugins on Android. If the Android version of FLSM also supports DirectWave instruments then that would put it up there with AEM as I would be easily be able to get whatever sounds I wanted over there by knocking up some DWs using FL Studio on the desktop. Might even be worth buying a cheapie large screen Android tablet for taking out places I wouldn’t want to risk losing or damaging my iPad.

    i use FLSM on both ios and android, and presets are the same, and files-wise are handled in the same way on both platforms (for DirectWave, along with the rest of the instruments including 3xOsc)

    Thanks Littlewoodg! Good to hear that they are the same across platforms. I did cave in and purchase the Android version last night and the short play I had with it confirms what you are saying as I could see no difference in the Android version.

    They do seem to have more issues with Android from what I’ve seen on their forums. Seems to be due to the variety of hardware and OS issues regarding storage. Makes iOS look like a much better music platform.

    Yeah, I can imagine that a whole DAW must be very difficult to get right for all the different Android hardware and OS flavours, and quite a technical achievement. It is a hard enough task to get it right for a (relatively) small, but growing, set of combinations on iOS.

  • edited December 2022

    @anickt said:
    They do seem to have more issues with Android from what I’ve seen on their forums. Seems to be due to the variety of hardware and OS issues regarding storage. Makes iOS look like a much better music platform.

    I remember this video from Jakob Haq, a bit outdated but gives at least some perspective on the issue mentioned.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    It’s got an immediacy that nothing else has.

    It definitely does! I've been quicker to churn out Lofi tracks in FLSM on my iPhone than in NS2 on my iPad, and I'm pretty swift in NS2 on my iPad! I have created a new beat in 5|4 time in under 20 minutes, and after lunch I will arrange it, mix it, and export it.

    I still do my mastering in AUM when it comes to Lofi, and in fact I plan to live perform the whole EP in AUM much like I used to do with making live Ambient. But to be able to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed in FLSM on an iPhone SE 2 without much battery drainage or iPhone overheating is wonderful!

    Genuine question: why would one want to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed?

  • I love making tons of stuff quickly or all at once. It helps me learn new gear faster, I can play with new ideas, and I can go for longer sessions since I’m switching contexts.

    You can always come back and mix, arrange, add layers, etc later.

  • @ervin said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    It’s got an immediacy that nothing else has.

    Genuine question: why would one want to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed?

    Genuine answer: ADHD, OCD, autism and various other things commonly classified as “disorders” but often are just the way people are made. For instance, we’ve been raised to think all kids are the same (think the average school system) when nothing could be further from the truth.

  • @ervin said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    It’s got an immediacy that nothing else has.

    It definitely does! I've been quicker to churn out Lofi tracks in FLSM on my iPhone than in NS2 on my iPad, and I'm pretty swift in NS2 on my iPad! I have created a new beat in 5|4 time in under 20 minutes, and after lunch I will arrange it, mix it, and export it.

    I still do my mastering in AUM when it comes to Lofi, and in fact I plan to live perform the whole EP in AUM much like I used to do with making live Ambient. But to be able to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed in FLSM on an iPhone SE 2 without much battery drainage or iPhone overheating is wonderful!

    Genuine question: why would one want to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed?

    I'm pretty quick at learning, adapting, and creating on the fly. It's also practice.

    I also tend to become bored easily. Let's see, which would I rather do...spend a few hours in front of miRack just to create a couple of simplistic bleeps and bloops that I can get out of any softsynth in under 5 minutes, or spend a few hours creating a track from start to finish? What would I rather do before a performance...twiddle my thumbs while scrolling through social media, or make something people will enjoy?

    That said, if your workflow is different and you spend hours upon hours toiling away at creating the perfect soundscape patch in Synthmaster 2, you do you. We all work at our own different pace.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @ervin said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    It’s got an immediacy that nothing else has.

    It definitely does! I've been quicker to churn out Lofi tracks in FLSM on my iPhone than in NS2 on my iPad, and I'm pretty swift in NS2 on my iPad! I have created a new beat in 5|4 time in under 20 minutes, and after lunch I will arrange it, mix it, and export it.

    I still do my mastering in AUM when it comes to Lofi, and in fact I plan to live perform the whole EP in AUM much like I used to do with making live Ambient. But to be able to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed in FLSM on an iPhone SE 2 without much battery drainage or iPhone overheating is wonderful!

    Genuine question: why would one want to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed?

    I'm pretty quick at learning, adapting, and creating on the fly. It's also practice.

    I also tend to become bored easily. Let's see, which would I rather do...spend a few hours in front of miRack just to create a couple of simplistic bleeps and bloops that I can get out of any softsynth in under 5 minutes, or spend a few hours creating a track from start to finish? What would I rather do before a performance...twiddle my thumbs while scrolling through social media, or make something people will enjoy?

    That said, if your workflow is different and you spend hours upon hours toiling away at creating the perfect soundscape patch in Synthmaster 2, you do you. We all work at our own different pace.

    Thank you, I understand your thinking. My main interest in asking this question was to learn more about how your workflow enables you to make and finish tracks, as you are one of those members that (unlike me, for example) have amply demonstrated that ability 🙂👍

  • @ervin said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @ervin said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    It’s got an immediacy that nothing else has.

    It definitely does! I've been quicker to churn out Lofi tracks in FLSM on my iPhone than in NS2 on my iPad, and I'm pretty swift in NS2 on my iPad! I have created a new beat in 5|4 time in under 20 minutes, and after lunch I will arrange it, mix it, and export it.

    I still do my mastering in AUM when it comes to Lofi, and in fact I plan to live perform the whole EP in AUM much like I used to do with making live Ambient. But to be able to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed in FLSM on an iPhone SE 2 without much battery drainage or iPhone overheating is wonderful!

    Genuine question: why would one want to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed?

    I'm pretty quick at learning, adapting, and creating on the fly. It's also practice.

    I also tend to become bored easily. Let's see, which would I rather do...spend a few hours in front of miRack just to create a couple of simplistic bleeps and bloops that I can get out of any softsynth in under 5 minutes, or spend a few hours creating a track from start to finish? What would I rather do before a performance...twiddle my thumbs while scrolling through social media, or make something people will enjoy?

    That said, if your workflow is different and you spend hours upon hours toiling away at creating the perfect soundscape patch in Synthmaster 2, you do you. We all work at our own different pace.

    Thank you, I understand your thinking. My main interest in asking this question was to learn more about how your workflow enables you to make and finish tracks, as you are one of those members that (unlike me, for example) have amply demonstrated that ability 🙂👍

    Now I see. :) It's all in good faith. In that case, here's a genuine answer. I do have ADHD and Autism which makes my thinking a bit different from the norm.

    Like I mentioned, I'm quick at learning, adapting, and creating on the fly. For example, learning Lofi only took me a few days, but it wasn't due to me myself and I. All of you wonderful forum members here helped steer me in the right directions with videos to watch, courses to take on Skillshare (I ended up finding the same courses on Udemy), the right articles to read, and the right helpful information in general. Then I made a couple of decent Lofi tracks, although they admittedly weren't up to my own standards. Once I created "Wizardry", I heard a sonic direction I like and ran with it. That is how "Lofi Dreams" came to be.

    The only thing I didn't care for is how weak my iPhone SE 2's battery is and how quickly it drains when using NS2. Then Hainbach released his video about the OP-1 Field, and I freaked out about how cool that is and how seemingly quick a person could churn out music within its confines while having a long battery to do so.

    Then once I rediscovered FLSM and how much it's capable of doing now, and the fact it barely drains my battery at all, I went with that for my next Lofi EP which is to take place on an alien planet called "Xarvox". Then Fluss was released, and I'm like "Hell yeah! Time to flex my Ambient production muscles and create an alien soundscape to accompany the four Lofi tracks!"

    Wait a second, where am I? 🤣 Oh yes! I have so many ideas bouncing around in my head that if I don't get something down quickly, it'll disappear. I also hope to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with 1TB storage sometime next year for music production on the go. 🤣

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @ervin said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @ervin said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    It’s got an immediacy that nothing else has.

    It definitely does! I've been quicker to churn out Lofi tracks in FLSM on my iPhone than in NS2 on my iPad, and I'm pretty swift in NS2 on my iPad! I have created a new beat in 5|4 time in under 20 minutes, and after lunch I will arrange it, mix it, and export it.

    I still do my mastering in AUM when it comes to Lofi, and in fact I plan to live perform the whole EP in AUM much like I used to do with making live Ambient. But to be able to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed in FLSM on an iPhone SE 2 without much battery drainage or iPhone overheating is wonderful!

    Genuine question: why would one want to churn out piece after piece at lightning speed?

    I'm pretty quick at learning, adapting, and creating on the fly. It's also practice.

    I also tend to become bored easily. Let's see, which would I rather do...spend a few hours in front of miRack just to create a couple of simplistic bleeps and bloops that I can get out of any softsynth in under 5 minutes, or spend a few hours creating a track from start to finish? What would I rather do before a performance...twiddle my thumbs while scrolling through social media, or make something people will enjoy?

    That said, if your workflow is different and you spend hours upon hours toiling away at creating the perfect soundscape patch in Synthmaster 2, you do you. We all work at our own different pace.

    Thank you, I understand your thinking. My main interest in asking this question was to learn more about how your workflow enables you to make and finish tracks, as you are one of those members that (unlike me, for example) have amply demonstrated that ability 🙂👍

    Now I see. :) It's all in good faith. In that case, here's a genuine answer. I do have ADHD and Autism which makes my thinking a bit different from the norm.

    Like I mentioned, I'm quick at learning, adapting, and creating on the fly. For example, learning Lofi only took me a few days, but it wasn't due to me myself and I. All of you wonderful forum members here helped steer me in the right directions with videos to watch, courses to take on Skillshare (I ended up finding the same courses on Udemy), the right articles to read, and the right helpful information in general. Then I made a couple of decent Lofi tracks, although they admittedly weren't up to my own standards. Once I created "Wizardry", I heard a sonic direction I like and ran with it. That is how "Lofi Dreams" came to be.

    The only thing I didn't care for is how weak my iPhone SE 2's battery is and how quickly it drains when using NS2. Then Hainbach released his video about the OP-1 Field, and I freaked out about how cool that is and how seemingly quick a person could churn out music within its confines while having a long battery to do so.

    Then once I rediscovered FLSM and how much it's capable of doing now, and the fact it barely drains my battery at all, I went with that for my next Lofi EP which is to take place on an alien planet called "Xarvox". Then Fluss was released, and I'm like "Hell yeah! Time to flex my Ambient production muscles and create an alien soundscape to accompany the four Lofi tracks!"

    Wait a second, where am I? 🤣 Oh yes! I have so many ideas bouncing around in my head that if I don't get something down quickly, it'll disappear. I also hope to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with 1TB storage sometime next year for music production on the go. 🤣

    This second version of your answer is even more interesting than the first one was. Thank you again.

  • @MisplacedDevelopment and others who this may apply to:

    Have you figured out how to get audiobus auv3 hosting working with FL studio mobile? I still have issues recording what I’ve made to an audio track in FLSM. Thanks 🙏

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