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Anyone into the WOO here? UFOs etc?
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ok I see the mistake, thanks no worries
There is one very strange story I can never forget from my childhood. It involved my Mum, Dad and some of their neighbourhood friends. I wish my parents were still alive so I could ask them more about it now. I know one of their old neighbourhood friends is still alive who was involved, and I think I could probably track her down fairly easily through my Sister if I can make the time and effort.
One morning before school, my Mum was freaking out over this incident that happened during the night/early morning hours, and my Dad was not in a good mood because he was late for work. My Mum and some of the neighbours were talking about it for a while, and it scared the crap out of me as an 11/12 year old.
She said she got woken up like really stupidly late during the night into the next morning by a loud low rumbling/humming sound outside. It was unusual and disturbing enough to make her get up and go outside in the street to see what it was. Other neighbours had been woken up and were already outside also confused and looking up at something. All I can remember is that she described it as an enormous, totally black shape, no lights, I want to say square or oblong but I really cannot consciously remember. It moved overhead really low and very slowly. Nobody could figure what it was. When it was gone, I assume they all went back inside and back to bed. In the morning...everyone discovered their clocks had either stopped or were totally wrong, and that's why my Dad was so late for work! It was a strange thing that the neighbourhood adults were talking about for a while after.
Apart from that occasion, I don't ever consciously recall my parents showing an outward interest in or talking about the subject of 'ufo's in general. My Dad was certainly a skeptic about EVERYTHING until very late into his life when he became more open-minded. But at that age of 11/12 I had already gotten my interest in all things 'paranormal' from somewhere because I was spending my pocket money on collecting and reading a regular publication called "The Unexplained".
Anyhow, I slept right through that incident and missed it! I just remember the fluster and panic in the morning because of all the clocks being wrong and seemingly connected to this strange huge black object that had passed overhead during the night and brought a number of neighbours out into the street to investigate at stupid-o-clock.
I really need to find my Mum's old neighbourhood best friend and get that story from her again.
The problem is, this area has always been the UK equivalent of area 51! Not far from Rendlesham. A lot of miliary bases. A lot of communications and secret installations. The UK's nuclear projects were carried out here. Radar was developed here (and radar was the accidental consequence of first experimenting with so-called 'death rays' to knock out enemy planes and such). Cobra Mist was being worked on here. The alphabet soup of UK and US agencies had and still have bases of operations around here. So much secret technology and testing. Add to that, at the time of this story AND the Rendlesham Forest incident, we were at an all time critical tipping point in the Cold War with Russia lining its tanks along the Polish borders and the nuclear bases around here on alert ready to fly to forward operating bases in Germany, Reagan's Star Wars project underway, experiments with terahertz and microwave frequencies, stealth technology, a lot of military exercises (I was sometimes lucky enough to see A10s flying over the house and they were still flying what I think was the Vulcan bomber - it was some kind of massive flying triangular thing anyway!), the list goes on and on in this area....I wouldn't rule out some kind of stealth or experimental craft being involved in my Mum's story AND the Rendlesham Forest incident....although having said that, I know there is a LOT more to the RFI than just a possible stealth or experimental craft which cannot account for all aspects of the shenanigans that occured and were witnessed in that one. 😉
My first thought process was: Meteorite? Missile? Plane crash? In the back of my mind, a voice also whispered, "Could this be the one? A real UFO from either outer space or popped through from another dimension?".
Then when it shot up again surprisingly from below the tree line, I wasn't prepared for that, so my thought process was caught off guard a bit at that point and that whispering voice got significantly louder! It certainly ruled out a plane crash or a meteorite....well tbh...there was still a hint of plane crash in there...I thought what if the pilot was struggling and able to level out at the last minute...and as it looped round for another dive, I did think of the China Eastern crash earlier this year where the plane had levelled out slightly but then dived again...But then it just continued like that diving towards the ground and doing huge loop-the-loops! So I ruled out all of the above, and I didn't think aliens would be doing loop-the-loops if they had arrived here. Lol.
So then I just had to settle on a drone or stunt plane as best explanations.
Since then, I thought about it and I could have also considered space junk or satellite re-entering when first seeing it coming down through the cloud. I'm surprised I didn't consider those at first as well. I think I was more mortified and focused on it being a possible plane crash.
For anyone interested metabunk.org is a cool place, I had a really good laugh, flying fish, mountains in flight (well tops seen through fog), boats, you name it as well as hoax theories of course. So many theories to explain the Calvine incident and photo, so many I’m sure they’ll get one that fits best. Even debunkers debunking their own theories. Soon they may even doubt their own existence
OK thank you for that. It’s a lot to chew on indeed. I feel like Homer Simpson when I try to imagine the size of it all. I can just about get to the moon - so that’s about 240,000 miles. Then Mars that’s em… 34 million… OK…. 🚀
I think most Astrophysicist feel the same, so you’re not alone. Just wait for a crash course in Quantum Mechanics.
Nobody? Oh well…. I’ll just get a flask of tea and some nice biscuits and try myself . Maybe I better set my lens to Panoramic.
A lot easier than all that infinite universe stuff 😀
I’m pretty much in the scientific and “reasonable” explanations camp. The distances too vast to travel; the speed limit of light, etc. The photos that are always indistinct.
On the other hand science fiction writers have been pretty good at coming up with interesting scenarios of how it might be possible.
Carl Jung pointed out that the symbol of a flying “saucer”, the round shape, begins at a time when religion is losing it’s hold on culture. So we project this symbol of wholeness, coming from “above” on to a scientific source.
All that said,
I had one strange sighting. In the summer of 1973 I was hiking in the Cascade range in Oregon and camped overnight at a high elevation overlooking the mountains. We were outside in sleeping bags and I was laying on my back looking at the clear (and spectacular) night sky. I noticed what I thought must be a satellite coming from the horizon in my direction in a straight line. But as it moved over head it slowed and suddenly looped back and began making a tight circular path right above me. I nudged my friend to look for it but when I glanced away and then looked back it was gone.
I’m asked if I might have been sleeping. I feel certain I wasn’t sleeping; I wasn’t even drowsy. I kept watching for some time afterwards but that was it. I’m not sure how many satellites were in orbit back then. Not many I would think.
It’s a possible explanation, the shape, alien grey and so on have entered the zeitgeist, but the problem is when there are physical manifestations of these ‘symbols’.
Situation Awareness…. Gimbal UFO experience insight from Ryan Graves US Navy pilot his testimony of the incident.
Interesting documents appeared on twitter last night and then were taken down... they are available here:
https://isaackoiup.blogspot.com/2022/09/pdf-notes-on-advanced-theoretical.html?m=1
Thanks for the links, here is the interview, it references. It cross references the Wilson memo, link’s to Davis (who Garry Nolan has met and relates about possible UFO ‘retrieval’ by the US government) while nothing concrete it somewhat corroborates the Memo and other documents from Edgar Mitchell.
Thanks!! Watching now!!
Yeah interesting, but also quite insightful that he reveals that they weren't even that focused on them at the time as they were busy and so were collecting the data secondarily, so it wasn't important enough for them to focus all their sensors on.
Sounds like it could be drones of some kind....?
I wouldn’t rule it out, the movement of the formation could be created by drone’s, but they’re allegedly reported on a daily basis, drone’s could cause fatal damage to any aircraft, so if this was thought to be the case, you would presume further investigation would be conducted to determine the source and then to stop these intrusions, that’s maybe what they were doing, as Ryan stated he had seen these things, but that actual footage was taken by a colleagues aircraft sensors and cameras.
There is a lot of new formation drone tech happening in recent years so it wouldn't surprise me if this was it, and also could explain why this hasn't been seen decades ago for example.
What a story! This reminds me of the Phoenix Lights case. There was footage, but also numerous eye-witness accounts describing a v-shaped craft passing over their heads. It was large and dark, and masked the stars above it.
There are anomalies that still arise if a drone, why wouldn’t the fighter rapidly close in on the drone or drones, why are we seeing a really steady IR image no signs of combustible propellent even though the object is moving laterally, in Mick’s IR and flare example he show’s an aircraft side on, you clearly see the shape of the aircraft yet don’t in the footage and the iPhone flare example is a steady light source, not a jet engine producing an unsteady IR signature. Range he determines as 10nm then 30nm pure guessing and a vast difference wouldn’t you say. Still he says it’s definitely not unexplained and thus debunked. That’s also discounting the ‘fleet’ of other objects as evidence of something unusual happening.
Yet another interesting interview with US Navy pilot Fravor. Explaining the videos context.
Really good that.
https://youtube.com/shorts/2Wz8_KJNSdI?feature=share
Here you go! I finally found something on what I said I saw a few weeks ago. Hertfordshire/Cambridgeshire area. This is video footage of the actual thing I saw and described further up this thread.
That's definitely a sight to behold. It's a pity they didn't include the 'vanishing' bit. I'm also curious about the kind of 'exhaust trail'
Thats my kind of Whooooo! This is pretty cool too.
It look’s like two vapour trails and the object roll’s several times during the ascent, it’s obviously not natural but under control, probably human control but worthy of investigation.
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I saw it from much further away than this footage. And I was driving! So I could only see it as one light source and couldn't see the barrel rolling motion. Quite an interesting sight up closer. Just glad someone else actually saw it and captured it, with a very steady hand and in focus after all!
The barrel rolling kinda puts my mind more at ease about it now anyway.
But the sky in the background is still fairly light enough that I would think you should be able to at least see the silhouette of a plane or drone against that sky.
That’s insanely good and clever!
That’s really cool! I wonder what it might be.
Kids with flares attached to kites or drones or model planes?