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Anyone into the WOO here? UFOs etc?

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  • @Simon said:

    @sevenape said:
    That’s really cool! I wonder what it might be.

    Kids with flares attached to kites or drones or model planes?

    Definitely something under human control anyway. Pretty cool though.

  • Moment of contact is out today!

  • @sevenape said:
    Moment of contact is out today!

    😀👍

  • ...> @AudioGus said:

    Thats my kind of Whooooo! This is pretty cool too.

    This is an order of magnitude more complicated than demos they were showing just a year ago.

  • Interesting developments in the world of woo. Personally I don't think these objects are space aliens, but the language being used is interesting for sure. I'm almost positive no matter my beliefs , this is more a case of the military looking for extra funding than anything too bizarre... Still, strange times we live in

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    These incidents will also give weight and opportunity for them with future sightings to dismiss them as "Just another Chinese Spy-Balloon!".

  • Yes I think you could be right, mick west has been doing exactly that on twitter and I think being as the whole ufo thing is gaining traction politically and culturally, balloons are a perfect excuse.

  • edited February 2023

    To enable the final enslavement of remaining naked apes on the target planet:

    1) Accelerate instances of visual contact over their areas of habitation. Their primitive recording devices and media organisations will do much of the mental enculturation work for us.
    2) instruct our in place agents to develop and publish theories such as ‘Even more Chinese weather balloons’, ‘drones’ and so on. That some of the recorded phenomena will be clearly at odds with such explanation will assist in the undermining of official source credibility.
    3) Loiter near their military installations, buzz their aerial defence machines, execute manoeuvres beyond the limits of their machines, sow uncertainty and fear amongst their war fighting cohort.
    4) Abduct, fake-examine and release selected specimens to generate further confusion.
    5) Activate the Polar base.
    6) Once the apes are habituated to our presence, susceptible, and hopelessly confused by conflicting theories as to our origins and purposes, begin clone replacement operations in isolated rural habitations. By this time, any of them noticing will not be believed, or else lost in the cacophony of competing theories.
    7) Have the converted hosts travel to their major population centres, and release the bio agent, using the distribution plan developed by Agent Siegel in the Earth year 1956.
    8) Wait until 95% of all apes are infected.
    9) Land.

    And, landing parties? This time, everyone takes their medication, and I mean everyone. We don’t want a repeat of what happened at Linda Rosa.

  • When, due to a terrible miscalculation of scale the entire battle fleet is accidentally swallowed by a small dog.

  • @GeoTony : Should have consulted their Guide, obviously! :)

  • edited February 2023

    The most recent incidents are very like our own balloons, which they’re now shooting down so they don’t have to explain them.

    From 2019: https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-surveillance-baloons-watching-everything-1452323

  • @Svetlovska said:
    To enable the final enslavement of remaining naked apes on the target planet:

    1) Accelerate instances of visual contact over their areas of habitation. Their primitive recording devices and media organisations will do much of the mental enculturation work for us.
    2) instruct our in place agents to develop and publish theories such as ‘Even more Chinese weather balloons’, ‘drones’ and so on. That some of the recorded phenomena will be clearly at odds with such explanation will assist in the undermining of official source credibility.
    3) Loiter near their military installations, buzz their aerial defence machines, execute manoeuvres beyond the limits of their machines, sow uncertainty and fear amongst their war fighting cohort.
    4) Abduct, fake-examine and release selected specimens to generate further confusion.
    5) Activate the Polar base.
    6) Once the apes are habituated to our presence, susceptible, and hopelessly confused by conflicting theories as to our origins and purposes, begin clone replacement operations in isolated rural habitations. By this time, any of them noticing will not be believed, or else lost in the cacophony of competing theories.
    7) Have the converted hosts travel to their major population centres, and release the bio agent, using the distribution plan developed by Agent Siegel in the Earth year 1956.
    8) Wait until 95% of all apes are infected.
    9) Land.

    And, landing parties? This time, everyone takes their medication, and I mean everyone. We don’t want a repeat of what happened at Linda Rosa.

    This is so good.

  • @monz0id said:

    @sevenape said:

    @cyberheater said:

    @monz0id said:
    The US are taking this stuff very seriously, even if the masses think it’s a big joke.

    I think it's a bit sad that we are in this incredibly literal and materialistic point in society. And I think that the interest in paranormal and occult is a natural outlet for being boxed in so much. Even concerning mainstream science, the average joe has no clue how little we know and how weird things get at the edges of our knowledge. As far as most people are concerned Science is like a doctrine now, which it really isn't... the whole point is to discover and understand what we don't understand... not to keep our minds in this little defined box... imo

    Definitely. We’re losing our sense of wonderment for things we don’t understand. Instead there’s ridicule, that scares off serious research.

    Hasn't that always been the case?

  • The Chinese missed a trick. If they’d only written “Happy Birthday” on their balloons nobody would have suspected a thing…

  • i think they were just trying to get a good live feed of the superbowl but the damn Americans shot down the balloon down before it got to the stadium.

  • China might be claiming they shot down 10 US balloons, too.
    Not sure if they really are claiming that, or if they are it might just be a tit-for-tat claim.

  • @CracklePot said:
    China might be claiming they shot down 10 US balloons, too.
    Not sure if they really are claiming that, or if they are it might just be a tit-for-tat claim.

    on one hand I think it could definitely be true, I don't see how China would be the only ones, on the other hand it just seems a bit convenient. A bit like the Americans finding another 3 last weekend. More and more I think it's just another cold war tactic to get everyone preoccupied and then to increase military spending

  • @SpookyZoo said:
    These incidents will also give weight and opportunity for them with future sightings to dismiss them as "Just another Chinese Spy-Balloon!".

    This would make a good, move along explanation, a nonsensical catch all.

  • What this shows is how easily opinion can be whipped up into a state of hysteria by the media and it’s backers, to what will probably turn out to be mundane explanations, weather detection equipment and other domestic craft. It’s happened before.

  • "Aliens vs conspiracy theory" matchups always offer something special.

  • My money is on aliens and conspiracy theory. Yer basic bogoff deal. :)

  • Only one thing worse than a ridiculous alien conspiracy theory, is the debunker who uses this theory to debunk, deride and ridicule other reasonable possible explanations. The MSM often uses this tactic.

  • edited February 2023

    That’s me. Former card carrying member of the MSM ( if you consider an NUJ card when I was writing for music tech mags counts.). Current Fortean Times subscriber. (Latest cover story: The Chicago Mothman. Old Red Eyes is back…)

    Or to put it another way - folks like you and me won’t know if it’s aliens or Chinese Special Forces wiping us out until SHTF, so why not kick back and spin a few yarns?

    Even with the evil MSM running everything, (in league with Big Pharma, The Bavarian Illuminati and the Boy Scouts Of America, an inside source conclusively proved to me) it’s still a better system than all the other ones.

    Admittedly a close call, but on the whole I’d rather live under MSM bullshit, random posh boy viciousness, and rampant, shameless corruption than Comradely coercion, or Trump/Putinesque delusions, but in the end, it won’t make any difference to the little people like me and you. Under any system you care to name we are just dupes, cash cows and occasional blood sacrifices. We are the Useful Idiots. After all - who else is going to chill the oligarchs’ champagne for him?

    Besides: if democracy changed anything, they wouldn’t let you vote…

    But wait… the Truth Is Out There!

    And…

    Rational Occam’s Razor approach: the little things, the octagonal objects are more likely to be more Chinese tech than anything else. Does a regular punter believing or not believing that though, make any objective difference, one way or other, to the actual truth, which we will never be certain we know, or to the responses to that truth taken by the people in our societies - the politicians, the military - who actually have access to information, resources, and an ability to change events?

    In the age of AI imagery and deep fakes, what level of proof would be enough, anyway?

    We serfs, we underlings, we contemptibles might as well continue amusing ourselves to death… it’s all we are good for, apparently…

  • @Svetlovska said:
    That’s me. Former card carrying member of the MSM ( if you consider an NUJ card when I was writing for music tech mags counts.). Current Fortean Times subscriber.

    Or to put it another way - folks like you and me won’t know if it’s aliens or Chinese Special Forces wiping us out until SHTF, so why not kick back and spin a few yarns?

    Even with the evil MSM running everything, (in league with Big Pharma, The Bavarian Illuminati and the Boy Scouts Of America, an inside source proved to me) it’s still a better system than all the other ones.

    Admittedly a close call, but on the whole I’d rather live under MSM bullshit, random posh boy viciousness, and corruption than Comradely coercion, or Trump/Putinesque delusions, but in the end, it won’t make any difference to the little people like me and you. Under any system you care to name we are just dupes, cash cows and occasional blood sacrifices. We are the Useful Idiots. After all - who else is going to chill the oligarchs’ champagne for him?

    Besides: if democracy changed anything, they wouldn’t let you vote…

    But wait… the Truth Is Out There!

    And…

    Rational Occam’s Razor approach: the little things, the octagonal objects are more likely to be more Chinese tech than anything else. Does a regular punter believing that though, make any objective difference, one way or other, to the truth, or to the responses to that truth taken by the people in our societies - the politicians, the military - who actually have access to information, resources, and an ability to change events?

    We serfs, we underlings, we contemptibles might as well continue amusing ourselves to death… it’s all we are good for, apparently…

    It works so far, but not for 70 years+ of sightings. Which happened to display more extraordinary characteristics than floating in the air driven by the wind. But carry on the ridicule, just as the MSM continues its ego-money driven narrative, the true situation becomes apparent, then who looks ridiculous?

    “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” - Carl Sagan

    Those that have ridiculed, rather than dare to search for the truth have by no stretch, definitely controlled the narrative. So who is bamboozling who?

  • edited February 2023

    I think it is just plutonium smugglers.

  • edited February 2023

    @knewspeak : more to the point… what difference does it make to the serfs and groundlings?, in the unlikely event that it is the long shot rather than the reasonable explanation which obtains in this particular case?

    We’ll maybe - take a Great Leap Forward Intellectually/Welcome our new space friends at the dawn of the next era of human evolution/be turned into alien chow at the intergalactic Subway/become immortal/die horribly/other…

    The only thing you can know for sure, MSM or no MSM, is that, should this particular rock roll uphill, against all previous evidence to the contrary, you and I will be pretty much the last to know.

    P.S - never mind 70 years of sightings. Try two millennia:

    “Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels." Ezekiel 1:20-21

    Also: if the ‘true situation becomes apparent’ - I.e., I guess, our new Alien Overlords, the Secret Chiefs finally make their presence known, the ‘MSM’ (oh, how I shudder when that acronym is used as a perjorative rather than a descriptor) will have a lot more to worry about, along with the rest of us, than the embarrassment of having made a wrong call.

  • @Svetlovska that’s why I said 70 years +, but the 70 years is really the timeframe our modern westernised science and culture started to take an interest in the subject, other cultures relate similar stories and encounters dating back millennia as you state. At least more mainstream scientist and academics are investigating today, which even if it did involve something other than humanity or something that would appear as ‘magic’ to ourselves, we may be able to ascertain a reasonable explanation as to it at least happening or not.

  • that stuff Werner Von Braun said to Carol Rosin

  • @Paul16 said:
    that stuff Werner Von Braun to Carol Rosin

    That's pretty far out stuff!! He was totally on the nose!!

  • @sevenape said:

    @Paul16 said:
    that stuff Werner Von Braun to Carol Rosin

    That's pretty far out stuff!! He was totally on the nose!!

    I take that stuff with a pinch of salt, as a means of controlling humanity, there are too many variables to predict, if you believe it as a means of galvanising humanity against the ‘aliens’ that would be even more ridiculous.

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