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Anyone into the WOO here? UFOs etc?
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I believe he would be much more authoritative if he had a few more golden medals on his uniform!
Reminds me of Dumbass Donnie.
Nice find! At first glance i didn't noticed it, because my focus went directly to the other planes, and why the F117 flew past the other planes and drone. It looks like the UFO is watching the show from a distance.
Can’t claim this as my own, Ross coulthart tweeted it! Interesting though!! People on Reddit getting very excited about that plane… and the flying saucer hahahah
We live in the ‘default’ position of no hidden proof, which beggars the question why the need for NDA’s, even for trivial matter’s. But imagine the alternative ‘truth’, now that could be world changing like nothing we have seen, that’s could be a problem.
Einstein Rosen Bridge?
You’d rather die knowing the ‘truth’, than live a lie, unfortunately I think the truth is an eternal quest, it throws up, more often, another question or two, almost taunting us with it’s elusive nature.
Have you guys noticed that the people who keep coming up here with various forms of "I think it's important to keep an open mind" almost always mean "I soooo want it to be aliens!!"? 🙂
And I think that's fine. Who wouldn't want that? It would be the biggest news in human history.
If and when we obtain some kind of evidence that goes further than "my dad saw something 46 years ago which in retrospect turned out to be exactly like that other something 27 air force pilots simultaneously observed and the army denied until they were forced to release earth-shattering images of some weird dots on a radar or flying Paracetamol pills", it will be a glorious day.
However, we are currently still in the "rabbit hole" phase, as @Spidericemidas called it. We have self-confident comments on this thread about UFOs watching from a distance, bigfoot sightings, and yetis eating human eyelids or whatever that one was. I mean... It doesn't attract me, but I can see why it's a lot of fun for some people. 👍
Why does it? That’s just your interpretation as a sceptic. I have an open mind which means I’m perfectly comfortable accepting an explanation for something (e.g., as I wrote earlier - ‘now I realise this was early drone testing’) unexplained, as now, explained.
I checked out updates on a other type of reported phenomena, last night, which has also now been investigated and explained.
Open minded means exactly that, the ability to consider and accept a range of potential hypotheses to reach a logical conclusion.
I presume you’re referencing the experience I shared, then deleted due to the inevitable sniggering. Actually it was almost a century ago - a large and saucer shaped daytime sighting, nothing like the UAP’s investigated by the Pentagon.
And you wonder why some people might be hesitant to share their experiences.
Well said, me I’ve told people friends and family about my experience, quite a time ago, most are perplexed, now I’m too old to care what other’s think, I can just recount my experience, it is, what it is. I just believe it was a physical object, very probably under intelligent control, origin unknown, to date.
it's great being open minded, but that also means being very aware of how easy it is for the human brain to find things which aren't there. Without knowledge and skepticism you'll be easily fooled. You can never have too much information or evidence.
Here is a good analysis about those recent UAP videos, he has a lot of video technical knowledge. And his view on the videos is like mine. He also doesn't hide his disappointment in the video material and he knows much more about these camera systems than I do. But has the right attitude about analysing the data properly.
Also his recent video analysis here is very useful and explains in detail how the most of the illusions are happening.
article here
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/11/i-study-ufos-and-i-dont-believe-the-alien-hype-heres-why
All well and good, but video, isn’t the only evidence is it? The USAF encounter’s mostly civil aircraft within restricted airspace about 3 to 5 incidents a week, tracked via radar, video, sight and even satellite, usually easy to determine what they are, given all the data, if they only used one method, then it gets tricky.
“Open-minded” aka “my source is my echo camber reddit”
Ufos, homeopathy, tarot, herbalife….always the same
Well it seems that most people are holding these videos as the best evidence so far, if you remove these as "strong" evidence then what is left remains even more weak.
Sounds like narrow-minded to me, whereas the dictionary definition for open-minded is the exact opposite of what you’ve written:
“open-minded: willing to consider ideas and opinions that are new or different to your own”
Of course but if there is other evidence, then it doesn’t disprove all the evidence, but all Mick West proves is it’s an object, a solid object, did he give a flight number or is that something I missed. Still not definitive.
I saw something very unusual and inexplicable last night whilst out driving. And maybe if there's anyone here in the Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire area who may have spotted it, maybe they have some idea of what it was? I'm still a bit baffled and now looking for any aerial events or reports from that area which might provide me a clue.
A very bright solid continuous light, comparable to Sirius or Jupiter, caught my peripheral vision way off in the distance above the horizon. It was descending in a straight line from out of the clouds. It was leaving some kind of long trail behind it like lit up smoke. Difficult to judge the speed at that distance and elevation, but looked fairly slow. It was about 7:30pm, just starting to get dark at that time here in UK now.
At first I thought it was a large meteorite. Heading down so far that I thought blimey it's one that has made it through the atmosphere and is going to impact the ground! I've seen huge meteorite burn-ups just like that, that are so bright they lit up the street below.
Then I thought holy shit, is that a missile? Has something happened? Are we under attack?!
Then I thought maybe it was a plane in trouble. I mean big trouble. Looked like it was on fire, heading straight for the ground. It went straight down and when it disappeared behind a tree line on the horizon, my gut turned upside down expecting to see it result in an explosion and rising plume of smoke. I was ready to take a detour and head over there to help.
But a second later it climbed back up above the tree line in a huge steep loop. And then it continued to do the same, rising and falling in large steep loop-the-loops. All the while looking like some huge fireball with a long trail behind it. I lost sight of it after a few minutes because of the direction I was travelling and the cover of trees along the roadside.
I've ruled out a firework as it went on for too long and no fireworks that I know of can do that, unless it was one that Gandalf released!
I think the heights and turning circles involved would rule out a kite.
I can only think it was a very fancy drone with a very bright and powerful smoke canister on it. Or a stunt plane with a smoke canister on it. But a stunt plane flying at 7:30pm in the evening in semi-darkness? Airshows are normally over by that time. The only place I know in that area that would possibly have a stunt plane up is Duxford, but there was no airshow happening at Duxford yesterday and I was passing right by the Duxford site on my journey! This was seen over the Cambridge direction.
I've never seen anything like it, and I don't know what it was, very unusual but in this case I'm sure there was an earthly explanation for it.
@ Carnbot - fixed:
That’s an amazing experience you had, thank you for sharing it, and similar to other sightings I’ve read about before in that area - I think there was a bit of a UK ‘wave’ around that time.
Anybody and everybody these days can get hold of drone’s, I’ve seen plenty and from a distance it was most likely the source, but your line of thinking was correct ruling out natural phenomenon first, then drone’s planes and so on, but maybe observation’s from other’s could help.
Please don't make quotes up from other people, that's not funny
I was going to say it was good to have you back around here Monzo, I but I don't remember you being like this... a shame you're not open to reasoned debate.
I've had enough of video blobs for now. I will be interested in any news in the future though
Some stunt for a TV or movie being filmed?
Who knows maybe the couple, who definitely saw it or possibly other witnesses, search the web, my experience is available to them now, maybe they could recount the experience from their perspective.
Must have been something like that. At first it really was quite strange and disturbing. But after it started doing those huge loops, I figured it's either a drone or a plane. Just glad to be able to rule out a crashing plane or a bloody missile! Lol.
This gives me the sense that the speed of light is extremely slow.
This is mind bending.
So the earth is 4.5 BILLION years old. The universe has been expanding since long before then. To put it in to context - the observable universe is therefore roughly 20.6 times the length of time that the earth has been here for (20.6 x 4.5 billion years) multiplied by the distance light can travel in a year which is 6 trillion or 6,000,000,000,000 miles.
So the observable universe (the Hubble sphere) is roughly 93,000,000,000 x 6,000,000,000,000 =
558,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles in diameter.
The universe is infinite and expanding faster that our observational Hubble is expanding - so our observable universe continues to become an infinitely smaller fraction of the universe with each second that passes. Is that correct?
Over at Mick West’s hangout they’re debunking this
I wasn’t making anything up, I was quoting @knewspeak - but somehow the editor picked up your tag - I do a lot of re-editing courtesy of my OCD, so it gets messy at times.
It was a mistake, ok?
I am absolutely up for reasoned debate, that’s why I’ve shared my personal experiences and responded to inaccuracies in any replies. For example statements that people who consider some sightings as genuinely unexplainable fit in a list that includes mental health problems, and lack of experience in being out at night. That’s not true.
So, @knewspeak - That’s an amazing experience you had, thank you for sharing it, and similar to other sightings I’ve read about before in that area - I think there was a bit of a UK ‘wave’ around that time.
Yep! No doubt the increase in drones has contributed to many an unkown sighting these days.
Me and my mate from school days probably contributed to a few strange sightings in the past. We became very proficient in designing and building all kinds of kites. I knew a bit of electronics, and we built kites with enough lift to carry a small 9v battery pack wired to a small board with LEDs. We used to fly them at dusk when there was enough wind. They looked really cool as strange dark shapes with lights on against the darkening sky!
We also used to make and fly hot air balloons! We used clear bin liners with the opening tied around a circle of fuse wire and a wad of cotton wool soaked in purple meths fixed in a strip of more fuse wire going across the diameter of the opening. One of us would support the bin liner while the other set the cotton wool alight. After enough hot air had inflated the bin liner, we would release them from the school field. They flew really well! And as the meths and wool burned, the clear bin liner would fill up with black smoke. So you ended up with a strange oval black looking object flying over the town with a glowing light underneath it. We heard that a few people had reported the strange sightings. We kept quiet. 🤣😂
What can I say, mate, not everything is about you personally. 🤷 I don't really like to explain my jokes, because I think they should conquer or fail on their own (both of which they do regularly), but let me do that anyway: in my comment about the evidence I was trying to piece together the most typical types of claims (personal and military - nothing to do with you or anyone else specifically); and the one about the yeti was literally taken from an earlier comment on this thread (unless I misunderstood or misread it).
But you are correct that it's only my interpretation. It is. Why would I use someone else's? 🙂
Oh ok, fair enough, someone else must have shared their dad’s experience from years ago, my mistake.
This last sentence is the most intriguing part of the account for me. @Spidericemidas can you explain what made you sure it was something of earthly origin? Not a trick question, I'm really interested in your thought process.
Hmm what I meant is that before I die I really wish I saw something paranormal, or paradigm shifting for me. I guess it’s because it opens the door to possible life after death maybe…. Idk. I know I will die one day, and I know that currently there are no signs manifested to me of anything other than just us in this planet. With that said, I don’t necessarily think it’s worth dying to know the truth. I think it would only be worth it if you do discover that this life is not everything there is, and also in a way, also dependent on what really would comes next…. Lovecraftian to me hahaha
Truthfully most of this is beyond me lol, but I think the best way to answer your question is to:
Check out how we know the universe is that old,
check out how do we measure the size of the universe:
Check out how why we think the universe started at all places at the same time and what’s the residual energy from that event.
Watch 3, 2, and 1 probably for the better progression line I think.