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Why I don’t want to review Ableton Note | haQ attaQ
People want me to have a look at Ableton Note app for iPad and iPhone but I don’t want to. Here’s why ... and some other important stuff ...
Let’s get the discussion going.
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Despite being a total Live fan on desktop, this doesn’t appeal in its current form.
Aside from the lack of standard editing tools, the clip-launching aspect isn’t properly supported on an iOS device. Sure you can select/deselect clips in different rows and play them, but you can’t record the results into a timeline, or export your session as an audio file. And as it has no AUV3 or even IAA support, you can’t capture a session via Audiobus, or AUM, for example.
So it’s extremely limited compared to other ‘all-in-ones’, unless you have the latest desktop version of Ableton Live. Which kinda misses the whole point of having the app in the first place.
Cue comments about ‘spontaneity’ and the benefits of missing functionality
@monz0id
Spontaneity and missing features are great! 😘😘😘
@monz0id Jokes aside, I hear you and in this case I honestly can say how I think it performs, since I haven’t had a closer look at it. 😅
But one thing that struck me after watching reviews by Live users is that they seemed to love it a whole deal. The app was made for Live users and it’s obviously working for them atleast.
I still want to wait and see what Ableton does.
Fwiw, as a long time Live user, the introduction of Note was met by me with curiosity, interest, questioning, but ultimately acceptance once i understood how the app could benefit my creative workflow when combined with Ableton Live on the desktop.
When i looked at past offerings like BlocsWave, Figure, Reason (whatever it’s called), Gadget and other similar apps which attempt to bridge the gap between iOS and desktop, something was always missing: Integration. Sure we can export Live projects from some of these apps…but all your editing capabilities are frozen in time if you will. The fact that i can start from anywhere because of the nature of Note and finish with my ‘big boy’ toys on the desktop is a sigh of relief.
Now i can noodle and play and hopefully arrive at something which sounds good to my senses…knowing that a certain Valhalla reverb or Arturia granulator will push it above the stratosphere gives me confidence and clarity as a producer on my tracks. I know that i am no longer “frozen” in time with a series of exported audio tracks. If i want to tweak an existing sound or totally change it to another Arturia synth, the ability and flexibility is there for me to build on my sketches and hunches and follow through with my musical intent.
Sure it would be nice to have all of Live on iOS…but War and Peace wasn’t finished in a single Moleskine notebook😉
There's always one!
Well, those on the latest version anyway! I've got the V10 full suite and it's not supported - considering the apps basic nature, I think they could have built the app so Live 10 users could enjoy using it too (there's a lot of us still out there).
I have to say I'm impressed by a lot of the features - the automation recording for example, looks like great fun. Being able to import samples, another good thing. And it's cheap as chips, as Doug might say.
But as I'm about to hit the 'buy' button, the limitations start creeping in, and I have to question what it will give me that I can't already get from my other apps - Gadget, Koala, NS2, etc. Even if I had V11, I can't import to the app, it's a one-way street.
So I guess for me it's just not giving me a reason to buy. But hey, everyone seems to be having a blast so what do I know!
Midi In and stem export is all I would ask for this app.
If they add audio loops with warping It would be a whole new wooooorld
I'm a Live user but haven't bought it yet. I may get it next week as I'm travelling as it's more suited for real mobility rather than studio based which is where I am most of the time.
I am also waiting for them to allow creating instruments and Note sketches via the desktop and then being able to jam with that on the mobile app too as this would make a big difference for me rather than one-way.
I can see that coming up with something via ipad and then quickly transferring it over to Push2 workflow is potentially very good so I can see it being useful.
I confess to having felt mildly insulted when it first came out. Have they been sleeping for the last decade? Having got over that, fair enough if they want it to be an adjunct to Live, but they can’t be that surprised at the lukewarm (or even frosty) response from those of us who take iOS music making seriously. So I’ll continue to use apps by devs who also take us seriously, and leave Note to the people who prefer to work on a desktop.
As for “we need desktop class apps”, well, we’ve already got them, unless someone thinks Eventide, FabFilter, Audio Damage etc etc aren’t somehow desktop class.
For me, the beauty of iOS is that we have other ways of working, so while I acknowledge many people require a linear DAW, for me the most liberating thing of the past few years was discovering AUM and being able to work spontaneously. I think that’s just how my brain works. YMMV.
So yeah, Note will be fine for some people, and of zero interest for others like myself, and that’s fine. Each to their own, and as long as music is being made, I doubt it matters.
What makes you think they are surprised… or even interested…by disinterest in the response to 1.0 from people outside their intended audience?
There has been quite a bit of enthusiasm … particularly from the people at whom it seems aimed. Most of the disappointment seems from people outside their current target audience.
I couldn't agree more
I think it’s cool, obviously there’s some things I wish it had, but I’m happy with what I paid for. And I do not own Ableton nor do I make music on Pc. iOS only.
Also I think it’s great there’s no piano roll and that it stubbornly forces users to get in touch with their own sense of rhythm rather than plunking around building note legos. Ikaossilator is another favorite of mine that says “nope sorry, learn how to play”. I hope they never add a piano roll. EVER.
And on the flip side of that, there’s plenty of apps that ONLY have a piano roll or step input with no live play. So .... whatever.
Definitely want virtual midi in though
Harsh.
Speaking personally as someone who's posted (constructive) criticism of the app, I don't need to own it to know it doesn't cover my own requirements.
I've been recording sysnths and other instruments for over 40 years, and in that time have progressed from tape-based recording to computer and iOS. I've gone through pretty much all of the major desktop DAW's over the years before settling on Ableton, and over the last decade or so have bought and used almost all the popular iOS beat machines, sequencers, DAW's and what have you.
There is very little in this app that I'd be unfamiliar with, except maybe the instant capture business, but that doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, and even if it did it's not enough to outweight the cons:
No iOS inter-app connectivity, no built-in means to record clip-based jam sessions (either MIDI or audio), no ability to import desktop sessions, settings or instruments, no proper MIDI editing tools, and finally no V10 compatibility closes the door on those of us that don't own the latest version.
My disappointment doesn't stem from ignorance - far from it.
Your criticisms are valid and very much on point. But — and truly, no offense intended — if you don't own the app and have never used it, you are in the most literal sense "ignorant" of it.
FWIW, I'm "ignorant" of a lot of things in life, and I am ok with that
In fact, I am glad to be 'ignorant' of a lot of things 
There are things I definitely don't want to know about.
Wrong. Back at yer:
“ ignorance noun
ig·no·rance | \ ˈig-n(ə-)rən(t)s \
Definition of ignorance: lack of knowledge, education, or awareness“
I think it's time to make a song
It’s okay for some people to like something and others to not. It works great for my workflow but I understand that not everyone has the same workflow as I do so it wouldn’t be as useful to them
I think it’s sad to see “creative” people so unwilling to say “ Hey! What CAN I do with this?”. Where’s the joy of discovery versus almost instant rejection?
I’m excited to see where it goes. It was cheap and since I make music for fun I just see it as another fun tool to do that. With that said, I do hope they continue to improve it and are interested in taking the iOS environment seriously. I’m just glad to see it here honestly.
I don't know that Ableton would have bothered to release Note if what we see today was the extent of their ambitions in the iOS ecosystem. I'm guessing they're carefully watching the uptake and reaction to the app to see how much more of an investment they want to make in the platform. Given the generally positive response especially from Ableton users, I'm feeling optimistic we'll see more from them, both in terms of improvements to Note, and maybe other products.
I bet a six pack and a pizza even Ableton is gonna be stunned by the revenue it generated.
(Sorry…no IPAs tho…that sh*t is gross)
That reminds me of an old quote from JFK
Nice try!
JFK was all about hardware! Here’s JFK Jr. in dad’s studio!
It’s definitely an elegant interface and includes some very impressive sample kits. In the past I’d instantly buy new apps like this, no question — but I already have too many standalone samplers that cover the same bases — some with even more functionality. (Flip Sampler) Sadly, those sandboxed apps mostly go unused since they lack the connectivity of gems like Koala.
Yeah!! all instruments generate the opportunity to make something unique. Nobody else in the history of the universe can make the music that you do, with the tools other people made.
He should have stuck to audio engineering and let someone else fly the plane!