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  • funjunkie27funjunkie27

    Thanks @mgmg4871. Seeing the relationship would definitely help!

  • ByteMuseByteMuse

    I just released this app, I think it's worth checking out and I would love some feedback! https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/music-theory-reference/id640357268?ls=1&mt=8

  • DerekBuddemeyerDerekBuddemeyer

    I know nothing of scales, theory, modes, or chords for that matter. Every 6 months or so, I try to educate myself in some form of music theory....that lasts about 5 minutes...then I put it all away and just play. I'm not saying its not helpful...it's just not my thing. It kind of takes the fun out of it for me...but then again, I'm a different kind of animal than most. Lol. I'm sure my approach has taken much longer for me to learn things than those who actually take the time to study...but for me, it's all about the journey. Check out EZComposer and Chordbot....not really theory apps, but they give me some great ideas. I'll be doing a video next week

  • funjunkie27funjunkie27

    I'll check it out @ByteMuse.

    The theory tends to bore me too, but I'm thinking that to get to that next level, I need to have some of it. I really like Chordbot and EZ Composer. I've had them for a while now. Both are great for giving ideas on chord progressions that I don't fully understand.

  • boone51boone51

    Great info about ProChords. Didn't know they'd added midi. Sweet. Love Chordbot of course. Also could use midi.

  • TedBPhxTedBPhx

    Stringmaster is free today

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/stringmaster/id509014353?mt=8

    Chords and inversions, scales, modes. Great reference for guitar players. Does a bunch just installed it. Best one of these I've seen

  • funjunkie27funjunkie27

    Thks for the tip @TedPBhx. Just downloaded. This is the most full featured apps I've seen.

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871

    Nice free app.

  • PiotrCBAPiotrCBA

    I recently dowloaded great app with great chord-scales relationship visualisation. Jamn, it's free for week:
    https://itunes.apple.com/pl/app/jamn-the-musicians-multi-tool/id530470606?mt=8

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo

    This app is currently FREE down from $2.99

    BRAINSCAPE: Music Theory.

    It is a flash card style of learning with audio clips.

    https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/music-theory-with-audio/id438110068?mt=8

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo

    There are lots of great Virtual Midi controllers we have on the iPad/iPhone.

    Just wanted to highlight this one as it's main strength is that it's great for anybody interested in music theory too.

    If it sounds like your thing, there are a couple of links below. Also if you do think you'll buy it...why not use Tim Webb's Discchord link...also below.

    http://discchord.com/blog/2012/6/16/chordmapmidi-for-iphone.html

    http://mugglinworks.com/ChordMapMidi/Home.html
    http://mugglinworks.com/ChordMapMidi/ChordMapMidiInstructions.pdf

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871
    edited July 2013

    Nice call @SpookyZoo Plays nice with Sampletank. I layered 2 sounds on channels 1&3 and added a bass to channel 2. Really nice for sketching ideas. Of course I emailed Dev about getting on the Bus.

    Update: some not so obvious features. Lower part of chord block gives you lower velocity, right side will give you a slash chord, and S on top will split the chord block ( bass on lower and chord on upper).

  • PhilWPhilW

    The demos are quite compelling!

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo
    edited August 2017

    Yeah @mgmg4871 is right. There were a few things I just couldn't work out, but got a really helpful reply from the developer. And it all made sense then. Might quote it below, maybe help explain to others, even though it sounds complicated its pretty simple and really utilises music theory well..

    Thanks for writing.

    The ChordMapMidi app is an attempt to squeeze as many playing possibilities as I could fit onto a 320x480 screen size (the original iPhone.)

    The first thought was to create something that would just play power chords (root and fifth only.) The power chords are very useful as a songwriter because you can sing almost any note against the various chords. It seemed kind of cool to be able to play power chords anywhere on a pocket-sized iPhone or iPod Touch.

    So in power chord mode (when B and C and S and 3 are not selected) there are no inversions in the boxes.

    The inversions occur when the 3 option is selected. 3 stands for the idea that there is now a third in the chord. The larger chord boxes were wide enough to include 3 different chords from left to right across the box. Some of the smaller boxes (to the left ad right edges) were also wide enough to include three different chords, but only two chords were squeezed into the VII and bVII boxes on the lower left.

    For most of the diatonic chord boxes (ii, iii, IV, V, vi) the three chords played form left to right are the following...
    left - bass plays root, chord notes are third and octave
    middle - bass plays root, chord notes are fifth and tenth
    right - bass plays third, chord notes are octave and twelfth

    The I chord box is a little different (to allow for ending a progression with a strong-sounding chord on the far right of the box.)
    left - bass plays root, chord notes are fifth and tenth
    middle - bass plays third, chord notes are octave and twelfth
    right - bass plays root, chord notes are tenth and two octaves up.

    So that means most of the first inversion chords are on the far right of the boxes, but in the case of the I chord, the first inversion chord is in the middle.

    (By the way, the three notes light up on the miniature visual keyboard... and the name is displayed in the name box... so that can sometimes help when figuring out which notes are being played.)

    Most of the secondary boxes have the bass note stay the same across the entire box, and the bass note is one half step below the root of the adjacent diatonic box. For example, if playing in the key of C, the box labeled bii is adjacent to the ii box. So the ii box, which represents Dm, has the bii box there to create secondary chords which will lead naturally to Dm. In a larger musical context, this would include chords like A, A7, A9, etc., but for ChordMapMidi, this box only includes A/C# in two different inversions and C#dim7 as a third option. These three chords flow naturally toward Dm.

    The main idea is that when playing chords in the central diatonic boxes, you allow gravity to pill you down the screen toward home (the one chord), and when playing outside on the secondary chords, you tend to move toward the middle, and then down. It kind of creates a tiny experimental musical playground, especially for people who may not have ever had the chance to create progressions just by tapping around on a one-finger instrument.

    Well, I hope this explanation helps a little.

  • funjunkie27funjunkie27

    Pretty interesting app.

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871

    ChordMidiMap can work without AB support as a controller to other apps on The Bus.

  • sm109sm109

    Because ChordMapMidi was mentioned here, I thought I'd jump in and maybe explain it a little further. The story began way back in my teens. I remember searching in a local music store for books that might explain questions I had about how chord progressions worked.

    I never actually found the book I was looking for. So when I had the chance, I took some music theory courses in high school and college. Eventually I began to understand the answers to my initial questions.

    After college, I was teaching piano to young students. I wondered if there was a way to teach the basic principles of songwriting and chord progression to them. I decided to create a visual map. At the bottom of the map was a place called "Home." I drew a little house there. The "Home" location represented the I chord.

    I told my young students that they would start at "Home," jump anywhere on the map, and then let gravity pull them back down the map toward "Home."

    I placed the other major and minor diatonic chords (ii, iii, IV, V, vi) on the map in such a way that moving down the map toward "Home" would automatically create strong-sounding progressions.

    Those early experiments led to the website Chordmaps.com, where I tried to create the explanatory material I wished had been available to me back at the beginning.

    Years later touchscreen technology came along, and the question became, "Wouldn't it be nice to put a playable chord map on the iPhone?" That started another long story, but the end result was a redesigned chordmap that fits on a 320 x 480 screen and allows a user to tap out some interesting progressions playing one finger-tap at a time. The app is called ChordMapMidi.

    The idea remains the same. The user can start at the I location (Home) at the bottom of the screen, jump anywhere, then work their way back down the screen toward the I chord. Besides the ii, iii, IV, V, and vi chords, there are also some secondary chords around the screen edges.

    Some of the strengths of this approach are that (1) even a beginner can explore fairly complicated progressions, (2) the user can play in all 12 major keys immediately, (3) the difficulty of playing chords accurately on tiny iOS keyboards is taken care of because each chord is tapped by one finger only, (4) fairly rapid chord progressions can be played, (5) basic music theory patterns like I-IV-V-I, or I-ii-V-I, or I-vi-IV-V-I, are not only easy to demonstrate, but they are played in exactly the same way regardless of which key you are in, (6) it's portable, (7) and you can play a lot of sounds because the ChordMapMidi app sends out midi to other signal-generating synth apps that are listening over virtual midi.

    Within the AudioBus context, it could be used this way. ChordMapMidi would send midi signals to an audio-generating synth app. The synth app would then connect up to AudioBus, routing the signal to effects or recorders.

    This might be useful in the following scenario. Most bands have at the core of each song some kind of chord-generating instrument... often a guitar or keyboard. Once the chord pattern is established, other instruments (percussion, bass, etc.) are added, but the core of the song usually originates in that "guitar and voice" or "piano and voice" context. ChordMapMidi allows that initial chord pattern to be explored.

    So that's a little bit about ChordmapMidi, where it came from, and why it might be useful in a music teaching environment, or as a songwriting, chord-exploring tool.

    I hope that makes the picture a little clearer.

    Steve Mugglin - Chordmaps.com

    (As part of the process, I developed five demonstration videos using ChordMapMidi. They illustrate some of the ways ChordMapMidi can be played. The videos can be seen at...
    http://mugglinworks.com/ChordMapMidi )

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871
    edited July 2013

    @Steve Great motivation for developing a app. I've been using ChordMapMidi for 2 days and have found a number of ways to implement It into practice, songwriting, and just having fun with various sound layering with chords. Thanks for a complete explanation of CMM's beginning.

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo

    It was those very same questions regarding chord progression theory that led me to your website a few years back. Of all the information available on the web, your diagram (that I will link below) is the one reference that I always refer back to when composing chord progressions.

    Its great to hear that my passing on of your work has already benefitted others, as it has for me. Thanks. :)

    Here is the link for that chord map:

    Generic: http://mugglinworks.com/chordmapsArchive/genmap.htm

    Same map in Key of C: http://mugglinworks.com/chordmaps/mapC.htm

  • PhilWPhilW
    edited July 2013

    Thanks for all the info on this - I have now bought it. Are there any thoughts on a minor key version?

  • funjunkie27funjunkie27

    @sm109 - I'm finding your app useful from understanding theory better and creating some nice progressions. Any thought on adding AudioBus? I see that useful in having the control panel appear in ChordMapMidi to start recording in a DAW in AB's output slot. And +1 on @PhilW suggestion for minor keys.

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871

    +1 forAudiobus.

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871

    I was in a discussion on Facebook about using numbering system in music as opposed to letters. I found a tutorial video concerning music theory that is just awesome. Thought I had to share it here. It about 90 min long and done by a guy that does Christian music, but the it applies to any music genre. It's starts out with a brief music intro and then goes into very practical theory. Hope you enjoy.

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=fYShThEaryo&desktop_uri=/watch?v=fYShThEaryo

  • funjunkie27funjunkie27

    Thanks for sharing that @mgmg4871. I caught a little of it before having to leave for work. Pretty straight forward from what I did see.

  • FrankieJayFrankieJay

    Music theory helps you to know the relationships between harmony, melody, rhythm and more. It doesn't teach you creativity but it gives you to power and the knowledge to break all the music rules. Yeah, break all the rules. That's what gives you style and a sound if you like. Learn all the music theory you can and you will learn to groove with the best.

    Also, it pays to listen to all kinds of music to see how music theory works in different settings. Jimi Hendrix said that a musician should listen to music from every country in this world - something to that effect. This tells me that he really knew what he was playing and that his influences come from all over the world. And Jimi wasn't a bad musician ;-)

    I play the guitar and I can rock out, jazz up, keep it in the pocket, play funky African guitar styles, keep it simple stupid and just enjoy my thing. It was music theory that opened my eyes and ears to have this kind of versatility. For example, I know a bit about chords because I know how to build them. Major is 1 3 5. Minor is 1 flat3 5. Triadic approach. And so on. I know everyone has their own thing but knowing a bit of music theory is always a very good thing.

    Thanks funjunkie27 for a great topic. It takes years for deep music theory to seep into the subconscious but once it gets there you can use that knowledge to bend music to your will.
    Peace ;-)

  • funjunkie27funjunkie27

    And thank you for your contribution @FrankieJay. I'm the type that really needs the theory, since I've seen others dive into playing without it and do very well, which I can't seem to do.. That isn't the way I'm wired it seems.

    Since I've started learning some theory, the pieces are coming together and I've noticed improvement. I still have a long ways to go though. It always makes me wonder how much better others would be that have no or little understanding of theory, but still have a lot of talent. My son is a great example. He's got a great ear and can usually figure a song out I after a few minutes of listening to it, but he's never had the discipline to study the theory side of music.

    I'm looking forward to bending some music!

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871

    @funjunkie27 I'm wired the same way. I need to know how and why stuff works. I admire people that don't Ned that, but I do wonder how great they might be with the added element of understanding theory. Then again it might turn them off from music. I actually have fun learning theory and applying it.

  • funjunkie27funjunkie27

    @mgmg4871 - I'm with you...I enjoy it as well....especially when I get to use something I've learned in a practical manner.

  • mgmg4871mgmg4871

    Maestro Touch coming to Bus with recording, and audiocopy soon.
    Link to free version.

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/maestro-touch-free/id560955016?mt=8

  • SpookyZooSpookyZoo
    edited July 2013

    Quick question...I might be posting something here later.....do any of you in this thread own MIDI Designer? iGrand Piano?

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