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Audulus 4 released

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  • Looks the OS limitations will keep me from getting this. Requires MacOS 13 as well, which I won't be getting any time soon.

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  • @tja said:

    @auxmux said:
    Looks the OS limitations will keep me from getting this. Requires MacOS 13 as well, which I won't be getting any time soon.

    dito

    Same here. Bummer.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Slush said:
    I have been exploring if MiRack is something for me, I know it has tons of patches. In what way does Audulus differ?

    Audulus could be considered somewhat similar, can also has more depth - you can build from much smaller units, and create modules from scratch.

    MiRack has the advantage of having more pre-built modules.

    I would say there isn’t much of a comparison. MiRack is an app for loading pre-built modules. It includes a large library of modules.

    Audulus is an app for creating/building modules and effects. Some pre-built modules exist but nothing on the order of what exists for miRack.

    It is aimed at people that want to build their own modules. Over time , a large collection of cool stuff will exist as the community grows.

    Wait a second, does that mean that Audulus 3 patches cannot be loaded in V4?
    Or is the old forum offline already?

  • @rs2000 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Slush said:
    I have been exploring if MiRack is something for me, I know it has tons of patches. In what way does Audulus differ?

    Audulus could be considered somewhat similar, can also has more depth - you can build from much smaller units, and create modules from scratch.

    MiRack has the advantage of having more pre-built modules.

    I would say there isn’t much of a comparison. MiRack is an app for loading pre-built modules. It includes a large library of modules.

    Audulus is an app for creating/building modules and effects. Some pre-built modules exist but nothing on the order of what exists for miRack.

    It is aimed at people that want to build their own modules. Over time , a large collection of cool stuff will exist as the community grows.

    Wait a second, does that mean that Audulus 3 patches cannot be loaded in V4?
    Or is the old forum offline already?

    Old patches can be loaded but often need editing to work right or for the u.i. to be usable. If one understands audulus , they are generally simple changes but for newbies, it will be confusing.

    I think the installed A3 user base was small enough that it did not seem worthwhile to spend a lot of resources programming in plug&play conversion…especially since modules based on the updated features will be more performant.

  • I bought V3 but never really used it, too complicated for me like. Though one time in the pub a mates son was going on about 'old fart luddite musicians' and what he was doing in Garageband, so I whipped out my phone and flashed an impressive Audulus preset at him, which shut him up for a bit.

    V3 probably still enough for my needs then.

  • Think the fact that Audulus 4 has auv3 capabilities could be something pretty big…

  • @ik2000 said:
    Think the fact that Audulus 4 has auv3 capabilities could be something pretty big…

    It is a big thing. Also midi out.

  • edited December 2022

    @espiegel123 said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Slush said:
    I have been exploring if MiRack is something for me, I know it has tons of patches. In what way does Audulus differ?

    Audulus could be considered somewhat similar, can also has more depth - you can build from much smaller units, and create modules from scratch.

    MiRack has the advantage of having more pre-built modules.

    I would say there isn’t much of a comparison. MiRack is an app for loading pre-built modules. It includes a large library of modules.

    Audulus is an app for creating/building modules and effects. Some pre-built modules exist but nothing on the order of what exists for miRack.

    It is aimed at people that want to build their own modules. Over time , a large collection of cool stuff will exist as the community grows.

    Wait a second, does that mean that Audulus 3 patches cannot be loaded in V4?
    Or is the old forum offline already?

    Old patches can be loaded but often need editing to work right or for the u.i. to be usable. If one understands audulus , they are generally simple changes but for newbies, it will be confusing.

    I think the installed A3 user base was small enough that it did not seem worthwhile to spend a lot of resources programming in plug&play conversion…especially since modules based on the updated features will be more performant.

    Interesting, thanks. When using Audulus 3, I've downloaded quite a few great patches from the forum and yes, there might not have been many users but a few very productive ones 😊

    Tbh my most used Audulus-only feature was the spline function module because no other modular app had it. Now I'm using Drambo's Graphic Shaper and it still runs great on my iPad Mini 3 which is stuck at iOS 12.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @ik2000 said:
    Think the fact that Audulus 4 has auv3 capabilities could be something pretty big…

    It is a big thing. Also midi out.

    Expect some interesting midi sequencers from this then…

  • Audulus can be very complicated but If you can get into the basics and have (a lot of) patience it really is brilliant. I already deep-dived in Audulus v3, I'm ready for v4.

  • @Pierre118 said:
    Audulus can be very complicated but If you can get into the basics and have (a lot of) patience it really is brilliant. I already deep-dived in Audulus v3, I'm ready for v4.

    Hopefully enough ready-to-use modules will get made and shared that it will become somewhat plug-and-play even for non-technical users.

  • _ki_ki
    edited December 2022

    I would have tried, but it requires IOS 16.

    I was interested to look at the lua capabilities and if the AUv3 allows for midi in/out… This maybe would have allowed to script midi plugins with own GUI‘s ;-)

  • It does look very beautiful.

  • ...this application requires iOS 16.1 or later...
    I always find it a bad idea to make the very latest version of an operating system a minimum requirement. Specially if it is not that long out, and many have still not upgraded.

  • Ok, first bad news is that you have to pay to have the AU feature…

  • It looks really cool but I hope they drop the OS requirements down a bit cos im not updating my
    iPad for it

  • edited December 2022

    The standalone app opens to an empty file browser? I hate it when that happens. (This is even less inviting or intuitive than Drambo is to the uninitiated user.)

    That said, I know there is a lot of coolness in there somewher, so I anticipate unlocking the AUv3.

  • If iOS 15 support iOS is important to people , let the developer know. He found an OS bug recently for which a workaround wasn’t obvious. Perhaps if enough people contact him, he might explore finding a way to make it work.

  • If I were the Audulus dev, I would stick to my guns with iPadOS 16.1 and macOS 13.0. It was 11 months ago when someone asked him for a release timeline, and he said he was actively working on promotional materials. Say it takes another 3-6 months to add support for older OSs, during which time more people upgrade. And now he has the ongoing additional burden of maintaining backward compatibility for all new development. The ongoing ROI of such an effort is only going to decline to near-zero. A year from now, iPadOS 16 is going to be the legacy ball and chain, and iPadOS 17 is going to be the source of new bugs.

    I totally sympathize with wanting it on my existing devices though. I'm kind of disappointed that iOS isn't supported like it was on Audulus 3. Oh well. I think he's probably making the right trade-offs given limited resources.

  • iOS16/iPadOS16 has the highest adoption rate to date nearing 70%.

    If I was a developer I would not focus any efforts on supporting legacy iOS/iPadOS versions.
    15 & 16 would be enough and when 17 drops 16 & 17.

    It's too much hassle to add work-around fixes 'iOS bugs' present in for example iOS15 that were fixed with iOS16...
    ...I'm looking forward to iPadOS16.2 which should drop this week...

  • @monz0id said:
    I bought V3 but never really used it, too complicated for me like. Though one time in the pub a mates son was going on about 'old fart luddite musicians' and what he was doing in Garageband, so I whipped out my phone and flashed an impressive Audulus preset at him, which shut him up for a bit.

    V3 probably still enough for my needs then.

    This is the first valid argument I have ever seen for having an iPhone instead of an Android. 🎖️

  • edited December 2022

    Ah I just realized that v4 doesn't support iOS, only iPadOS, not that I'd like to edit anything on a phone, but I would surely like to use patches created elsewhere

  • I think I'll stick to Drambo, lol. Audulus 4 looks beautiful, and I bet it sounds beautiful (especially with the reverb modules), but honestly I don't want to update to 16 in case NS2 breaks.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I think I'll stick to Drambo, lol. Audulus 4 looks beautiful, and I bet it sounds beautiful (especially with the reverb modules), but honestly I don't want to update to 16 in case NS2 breaks.

    Good choice. Regarding reverb, there's something tiny but super useful cooking in Drambo kitchen.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I think I'll stick to Drambo, lol. Audulus 4 looks beautiful, and I bet it sounds beautiful (especially with the reverb modules), but honestly I don't want to update to 16 in case NS2 breaks.

    Good choice. Regarding reverb, there's something tiny but super useful cooking in Drambo kitchen.

    That’s one way to put it 😎

    And we’ll, NS2 works without any issues under iPadOS16.1.1.
    16.2 drops this week so I’d wait for that…

  • I can't seem to Midi-assign anything in the auv3 while it works fine is standalone, or that's not possible yet?

  • Yes yes yes yes!!!!!

    Rushing home to download

  • Btw, there is an active Audulus discord server . It is the best place at the moment to get help or report bugs.

    See if this invite works
    https://discord.gg/yVYFZKZB

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