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Great to hear she’s finally home, and I’m sure the cats give her all the comfort they can 🙏
Good to hear the great news @McD !!
And welcome on the forum to @Sons_Cartouches and @planetguitar !!!
Good news and bad.... Jeez it's been a tough year McD, I truly hope things improve
Damn that must be some relief @McD. Hope things improve for you both.
I’m of a similar mind to @Svetlovska - I’d love to do it, because of how good the film is, but I got to participate on Vampyr (of which I am crazily proud) and don’t want to stand in the way of anyone who fancies a go at this.
@Krupa I’m very interested in those valve sounds, too!
@McD I’m so glad to hear your good news.
I vote that you get a place if you want one, as you are this round's herder of cats!
HAPPY TO HERD (in caps!)
Thanks!
In principle I'd love to be able to knock it all out on iOS, but I've still not managed to settle on any kind of reliable workflow. It's conceivable (Desirable, even) to do sound-design on the iPad and assemble, add and mix via desktop. I guess it all depends on how tight the deadline is.
So, yeah...As others have done, I'll put myself down for the 'reserve' team
Great news for the start of a new year. Congrats!
Still not clear on how to do this. I pick a part I like and go for it? Wouldn't that be too accidental?
What if others choose the same part (and what's with parts not taken by anyone at all then)?
Good luck and all the best @McD.
@cabo: A matter for @sevenape as this go’s cat herder, of course, but as a possible way forward…
Last time I divided the run time by the number of contributors, used a random number generator to number these, then used a random number generator a second time to pick from this list sequentially through the run time by available slots, re-rolling if a number had already been taken. Only took a few minutes, and it was truly random, which to me was part of the challenge - you had to work with what you got handed, and it stopped this from happening:
On a related note: Further to the ‘too many cooks’ dilemma - if the timecoded version of the movie is an asset anyone can download, there is nothing to stop the allocation system being extended as a separate, parallel process to the ‘B Team’ or ‘benched’ wannabe participants to work on for their own pleasure, and to provide an insurance policy of available substitutes in the event of drop outs from the A Team.
sounds good to me (and that's what I thought how it would be)
enjoyed the video, thx Svetlovska
Was hoping it was going to be like that.
And we also allowed for some negotiations between adjacent people if there were obvious switch points near the transitions, eg intertitles, scene changes etc.
A further thought: trust the film itself. If people are working from the film and aiming to reflect moods and action, then transitions won’t be that jarring because you’ll all be working from the same material. How that work is accomplished or sounds is less important.
I will use your system, it worked really well!!
I was thinking to close applications on Monday? Or shall we wait til we have a definitive video to use?
I’d love to be a part if there are still slots. I watched the last one and loved it!
I think there are loads of applicants already, so why not shut it by Monday
Again, to anyone worrying about work flow etc, don't worry! As others have said, just do your thing. Once timeslots are allocated, if you think your piece needs to start / end a little earlier / later just negotiate with the people either side of you for a bit of leeway. They will most likely totally agree. Last time it all came together so well, despite all our apprehensions haha. Most of all this is about having fun and being playful, no need to overthink it or worry about syncing etc too much, unless you get a chunk that involves an extreme mood change. If you do, just create smaller parts and mix them together in aum or the host of your choice. Let the creative juices flow, the madder the merrier
No contest, really
I would like to participate, if there's a slot available.
Happy to step aside this time if there’s more than thirty,
Last added to the sheet: @emjay @el_bo @planetguitar @cvwonder @DavidEnglish
I'll probably sit aside on the music side this time.
I'll stick as random staff for whatever needed.
In fact, maybe I'll do an illustration or 3D artwork to use as a cover or something
If anyone has any ideas, i'm open to suggestions
If that's down to numbers, I'm happy for you to take my spot.
Not at all, mate. Actually I may be swamped already
And I already put myself on the 'bench' from the start 
Facts! I've never found a better music forum (or forum in general) than here.
Apropos the recent discussion above re how to get everything to cohere (I’m in the ‘just let it roll’ camp,obvs):
…Interesting piece in The Guardian today regarding how to write something collaboratively which is also random, in an interview with Jason Graves, composer, on the orchestral scoring of his soundtrack for the about-to-be rebooted sci-fi horror game Dead Space:
“The point of aleatoric music is giving the player the freedom to decide what to play within a given set of instructions. It might be ‘play the highest note as loud as possible,’ ‘play random open string harmonics very quietly’, or ‘play these five notes as quickly and loudly as you can. These kinds of directions are incredibly fun for the musicians. They act like they are back in school. I had several takes ruined by laughing at the end.” -
https://www.theguardian.com/games/2023/jan/20/dead-space-composer-shares-its-unsettling-secret-jason-graves?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Stretching a point here, as in this project, rightly, there is no central controlling mind, but instead ‘our text is our teacher’. That is, the task for all participants is to treat their own segment as the client/composer, and interpret the brief accordingly…
This is pretty much how I always operate with the sequencers and wav loops my stuff depends on. (Out of necessity, since I don’t have musical skills.) - sketching out the limits and parameters I want the thing to inhabit, the walls of the container, so to speak, then pour in the random and let it flow as it will.
Just be warned: I am now, insufferably, going to describe myself as a ‘composer of aleatoric music’ at every conceivable opportunity…
“…a process is said to be aleatoric ... if its course is determined in general but depends on chance in detail" - Werner Meyer-Eppler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleatoric_music
Didn’t realise I was operating in a storied tradition
Fair play. Still happy to sit out for someone else, if need be.
Also, am I the only one here who hasn’t ever seen the film?
That's okay. I never saw Vampyr before that project was underway.
Ah, that’s good to know. Thanks
I should probably actually check that group effort out also, as a primer, and just to see how everyone interpreted it. Then give Metropolis a watch (Which is by all accounts a must-see), just as soon as the final version is decided.