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Tomofon by Klevgränd produkter AB - Released

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  • @Gavinski said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I mean this whole app is half the size of pure piano, despite containing hundreds of presets, many from completely different models

    Were you able to get a convincing piano sound out of it?
    If so, I'd be very interested in how you did it 😊

    No... It doesn't sound much like real instruments to my ears. I think Peter Kirn on cdm described it as having an uncanny valley sound. Somewhere between synthesised and real. If I want a software instrument that sounds like the real world equivalent, I wouldn't go for tomofon. As Richard said earlier, I personally would mostly see this as something for making interesting pads.

    That confirms my own experience.
    Still a very useful app to make something new from old samples 😉

  • @Darkstring said:
    Am I the only one hearing A LOT of looping in every preset? As in, it's very obvious and rather distracting. Is there any way to make the sound smooth and the looping not noticeable? Please post with examples if you got 'em.

    I agree. Especially in the video that @richardyot posted. It’s the same in every preset. Once you notice it it’s hard to dismiss. In the other video examples it’s masked by the overlay of drum patterns. I was looking forward to it but now I’m not so sure. If someone else could provide examples where it can be smoothed out I’d go for it. It’s sad; the concept of it seems so interesting especially when the sounds seem made for evolving tones without loop clicks.

  • edited February 2023

    Oh my gosh, I LOVE this app--best thing I've bought in years. So yeah, it does pads, of course, but it's far more than that. But I'm a weirdo--I am bored to death of all the VA synths and the FM synths and even the samplers. This thing makes it so dead simple to make a certain kind of noises that I happen to like. The best way I can describe it is: if you are a fan of @childofthecorndog's packs, this is like a whole app of his style of unique sounds. YMMV.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Gavinski said:
    I mean this whole app is half the size of pure piano, despite containing hundreds of presets, many from completely different models

    Were you able to get a convincing piano sound out of it?
    If so, I'd be very interested in how you did it 😊

    I think piano is probably the less suited instrument Tomofon should be good at :

    • does piano need to morph sound between 2 keys ? No
    • does piano need to modulate sustained sound within the same waveform ? No.

    Wait for PianoTeq.

    Essentially, Tomofon should be good at reproducing instruments like voice, violin, ehru and the way they are naturally played (pitch bend, modulated).

  • Just finished my live stream for Tomofon.
    I go through lots of stuff, including making your own patches and Audio Models etc.
    I hope you enjoy the video😊
    https://www.youtube.com/live/U-wxS6LnK3o?feature=share

  • edited February 2023

    It’s fun and unique, I like the presets a lot so far. I’ll need to explore more with the importing feature though cos I wasn’t able to get anything going on that I really liked yet. Sample crate will come in handy for that though I think to get some good audio files for it

  • The price is very good, especially compared to many new apps that have been released recently like the Magic ones and that knock thingy. Everything is automatable and you can put an lfo on the loop length, as an example. I think it's awesome and a real fresh innovation.

  • Please add your input on patchstorage regarding making a section for Tomofon Model and Preset file sharing.

    https://patchstorage.com/requests/klevgrand-tomofon-synth/

  • damn my GAS is flaring up again. Looks super deep and customizable.

  • @thesoundtestroom said:
    Just finished my live stream for Tomofon.
    I go through lots of stuff, including making your own patches and Audio Models etc.
    I hope you enjoy the video😊
    https://www.youtube.com/live/U-wxS6LnK3o?feature=share

    Great demo, thank you!

  • Should be buying soon.

    Now you know.

  • Does it work with MPE devices?

  • @gkillmaster said:
    Does it work with MPE devices?

    They say MPE is coming in future...

  • @Halftone said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    Does it work with MPE devices?

    They say MPE is coming in future...

    Yay! Thanks! That settles it!

  • @McD said:
    Please add your input on patchstorage regarding making a section for Tomofon Model and Preset file sharing.

    https://patchstorage.com/requests/klevgrand-tomofon-synth/

    Good work guys... there are 4 +1 votes already. I also noticed that AudioLayer has been submitted for consideration and
    has 3 votes.

  • edited February 2023

    I just bought this…it almost sounds additive a little…

    I’m getting stuck notes a lot in standalone and as a plug in

    When I say a lot I mean way too much…

    The sound test room video with Doug helps to differentiate between the models and the actual presets because it’s not immediately obvious

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    I just bought this…it almost sounds additive a little…

    I’m getting stuck notes a lot in standalone and as a plug in

    When I say a lot I mean way too much…

    The sound test room video with Doug helps to differentiate between the models and the actual presets because it’s not immediately obvious

    Yes.... It's very weird they didn't just put an init patch in there, bizarre. For anyone who doesn't realise, create a user preset. Open that and then scroll back with the preset arrow, this will bring you to the unit patch. Probably wise to save this as a user preset with the name init.

    Now, open that preset before you import audio to make a new audio model. After importing it will ask you to save it if you try to go to the synth screen. This is another slightly bizarre thing to me. Anyway, then go tweak the synth settings and when you have got sth you like, make your final save for this new preset.

  • @MrSmileZ said:
    I just bought this…it almost sounds additive a little…

    I’m getting stuck notes a lot in standalone and as a plug in

    When I say a lot I mean way too much…

    The sound test room video with Doug helps to differentiate between the models and the actual presets because it’s not immediately obvious

    What are you using to feed it notes? Internal keyboard in standalone? What about as auv3? I don't remember ever getting a single stuck note. If you're using a sequencer, it's also possible that the sequencer or whatever is not sending stuck notes properly

  • First user comments :

    • audio in background : is there any option to activate it ? Didn’t read the manual yet…
    • mono legato : the behavior is not usual, the voice is cut as soon as you release the first key. Usually the last key take over the voice envelope management
    • For those concerned by the noticeable « looping » sound in the demo, it’s just a matter of how you set the loop start/end levels but there is nothing that couldn’t be tamed.
  • @Kashi said:
    I had, as it happens, already decided to buy it, but it was an emergency poo.

    …bought on, perhaps, by the excitement of getting to buy a new synth ;)

  • @el_bo said:

    @Kashi said:
    I had, as it happens, already decided to buy it, but it was an emergency poo.

    …bought on, perhaps, by the excitement of getting to buy a new synth ;)

    😅😆💩

  • Can it be PSYchedelic….I really need to know that🤣😈🤣🖤

  • @el_bo said:

    @Kashi said:
    I had, as it happens, already decided to buy it, but it was an emergency poo.

    …bought on, perhaps, by the excitement of getting to buy a new synth ;)

    I swear to god, when I used to collect vinyl, there was nothing made me need a crap as much as getting into the record shop I was going to 😂

  • @darkaum>; @DarkAum3o said:

    Can it be PSYchedelic….I really need to know that🤣😈🤣🖤

    In itself, not that much, though you can certainly do experimental things with it. Add some wacky fx apps to it and it will sound as psychedelic as you like

  • edited February 2023

    Hmm… I think this must be operator error but so far, this isn’t really doing it for me. It seems super deep, lots of ways to animate sounds, but it isn’t reajjy jelling with my usual battery of primarily monophonic midi generators and wilfully random way of working. Pretty much every preset on every model type seems to give me similar results, and the results are not especially exciting. I got a lot more instant mileage out the recent Saga chip tune synth… It may well be my fault, but at the moment, for my approach to noise making, this seems… underwhelming.

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Hmm… I think this must be operator error but so far, this isn’t really doing it for me. It seems super deep, lots of ways to animate sounds, but it isn’t reajjy jelling with my usual battery of primarily monophonic midi generators and wilfully random way of working. Pretty much every preset on every model type seems to give me similar results, and the results are not especially exciting. I got a lot more instant mileage out the recent Saga chip tune synth… It may well be my fault, but at the moment, for my approach to noise making, this seems… underwhelming.

    Yep, it's not gonna be for everyone

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Svetlovska said:
    Hmm… I think this must be operator error but so far, this isn’t really doing it for me. It seems super deep, lots of ways to animate sounds, but it isn’t reajjy jelling with my usual battery of primarily monophonic midi generators and wilfully random way of working. Pretty much every preset on every model type seems to give me similar results, and the results are not especially exciting. I got a lot more instant mileage out the recent Saga chip tune synth… It may well be my fault, but at the moment, for my approach to noise making, this seems… underwhelming.

    Yep, it's not gonna be for everyone

    This morning playing with the demo on desktop I’ve finally got it to do interesting things; flattening the pitch curves really helps stop that weird fake vocalisation thing, and loading different sounding samples in suddenly gets much more different sounding results…

  • @Krupa said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Svetlovska said:
    Hmm… I think this must be operator error but so far, this isn’t really doing it for me. It seems super deep, lots of ways to animate sounds, but it isn’t reajjy jelling with my usual battery of primarily monophonic midi generators and wilfully random way of working. Pretty much every preset on every model type seems to give me similar results, and the results are not especially exciting. I got a lot more instant mileage out the recent Saga chip tune synth… It may well be my fault, but at the moment, for my approach to noise making, this seems… underwhelming.

    Yep, it's not gonna be for everyone

    This morning playing with the demo on desktop I’ve finally got it to do interesting things; flattening the pitch curves really helps stop that weird fake vocalisation thing, and loading different sounding samples in suddenly gets much more different sounding results…

    Are you just using the first auto mode to make your presets Chris?

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Hmm… I think this must be operator error but so far, this isn’t really doing it for me. It seems super deep, lots of ways to animate sounds, but it isn’t reajjy jelling with my usual battery of primarily monophonic midi generators and wilfully random way of working. Pretty much every preset on every model type seems to give me similar results, and the results are not especially exciting. I got a lot more instant mileage out the recent Saga chip tune synth… It may well be my fault, but at the moment, for my approach to noise making, this seems… underwhelming.

    Try importing your own audio into it - that might make it more interesting for you. You can import all sorts of things: atonal textures, vocal samples, snippets of instruments or melodies. The synth will spit something interesting out.

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