Pianoteq 8 is now on the AppStore

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@martinjuenke said:

@BerlinFx said:

I had big Playel concert piano from 1900 ...

I doubt you had a Playel concert piano because there were no Playel concert pianos...

My parents had but it was a Pleyel a bit like this model made around 1900 , I made a typing mistake so about the name you are right

A photo of the model (not exactly the one we had but same model ) , this is what I call a concert piano

https://oostendorp-muziek.nl/pleyel-174-pm-messing-vleugel-212400-3405-kopen

McD

Has anyone found a way to load IR files into the Reverb Menu?

The docs say:

A new convolution reverberation unit simulates acoustic surroundings ranging from Studio up to very long reverbs like Cathedral or Taj Mahal. It includes other types of reverbs such as Plate, Spring, Speakers, Broceliande... In PIANOTEQ STANDARD or PIANOTEQ PRO, you can even load your own reverb impulses via Load WAV impulse... in the reverb menu.

I can’t find a “Load WAV impulse” in the Reverb Menu. There are a lot of great IR’s in their but I want to try some that I have made with Thafknar.I think they might have left this feature out.
I hope I’m wrong about it.

I have contacted Moadartt Support for an answer… they state I’ll get an email reply within 24 hours.

Montreal_Music

@McD said:
Has anyone found a way to load IR files into the Reverb Menu?

The docs say:

A new convolution reverberation unit simulates acoustic surroundings ranging from Studio up to very long reverbs like Cathedral or Taj Mahal. It includes other types of reverbs such as Plate, Spring, Speakers, Broceliande... In PIANOTEQ STANDARD or PIANOTEQ PRO, you can even load your own reverb impulses via Load WAV impulse... in the reverb menu.

I can’t find a “Load WAV impulse” in the Reverb Menu. There are a lot of great IR’s in their but I want to try some that I have made with Thafknar.I think they might have left this feature out.
I hope I’m wrong about it.

I have contacted Moadartt Support for an answer… they state I’ll get an email reply within 24 hours.

What is the difference between that and to use Thafknar in AUM with Pianoteq?

McD

FYI: It appears there are additional instrument content files available called FXP file for User generated Presets. Some are pretty good like “18 String Amped Bass Guitar” made from the “Guitar Instrument”. I guess you can download and use the Preset even in DEMO mode.

These FXP’s are listed at:

https://forum.modartt.com/fxpcorner/

The other file type are *.pts free instrument files.

McD

@McD said:
Short term, it’s the only way to get a significant discount. I signed up for the 15% group discount but chickened out on Pro and asked for a Standard because there were too many reports that Pro was a waste of time and only for studio geeks. BUT THAT WAS BAD ADVICE. “Note Editing” uses drawing curves and the UI is excellent. The change in sounds and the options provided are impactful. There’s NO ADSR like control but there is an “Attack Envelope” but no obvious decay… most pianos are sensitive to Note Off so decay isn’t essential. I’m getting some brassy sounding Presets.

After digging into the Pro features, I find most would be best served by STANDARD. The most interesting Tuanble Parameter for me is “Attack Envelope” and it’s exposed for the STARDARD User. The Pro parameters don’t see to have a huge impact on Presets. Probably better to spend money on more Instrument packs than do the PRO upgrade path. If I find an essential parameter I’ll share yet another change of mind.

The marketing advertises hundreds of tweakable “overtones” but most are instrument specific
parameters like the “Bounce Envelope” for the Cimbalon mallet. It doesn’t do anything for any other instrument I have found.

Gavinski

@McD said:
Has anyone found a way to load IR files into the Reverb Menu?

The docs say:

A new convolution reverberation unit simulates acoustic surroundings ranging from Studio up to very long reverbs like Cathedral or Taj Mahal. It includes other types of reverbs such as Plate, Spring, Speakers, Broceliande... In PIANOTEQ STANDARD or PIANOTEQ PRO, you can even load your own reverb impulses via Load WAV impulse... in the reverb menu.

I can’t find a “Load WAV impulse” in the Reverb Menu. There are a lot of great IR’s in their but I want to try some that I have made with Thafknar.I think they might have left this feature out.
I hope I’m wrong about it.

I have contacted Moadartt Support for an answer… they state I’ll get an email reply within 24 hours.

I got this far:

However I can’t actually see any way to load the IR file I imported.

And yes, the free shared instruments patches is a really cool feature.

Paulo164

@Montreal_Music said:

@LinearLineman said:
@espiegel123 i’ll give them a try. I’m used to the American Steinway sound.There would be Hamburg Steinway, I’d imagine.

@Montreal_Music , that’s odd, no? I thought the B would be brighter.

You should try the demo. You will be a better judge than me! The Model D is longer than the Model B so I think the sound is brighter. But it's just my impression. Like I said, you will be a better judge than me.

Shorter strings means more inharmonicity, especially in the bass register. So less fundamental and more inharmonic overtones. To say it in a simplistic way, it will “bang” more.

Paulo164

Speaking of IR loading, I read that PianoTeq can be used as an effect. You put audio in and the audio is processed through the resonator of the piano.
So I guess you could add sympathetic string resonance to any incoming sound.
And I guess also it must accept midi IN to know which keys are being pressed.
Anyone has search for or tried this feature ?

Gavinski

@Paulo164 said:
Speaking of IR loading, I read that PianoTeq can be used as an effect. You put audio in and the audio is processed through the resonator of the piano.
So I guess you could add sympathetic string resonance to any incoming sound.
And I guess also it must accept midi IN to know which keys are being pressed.
Anyone has search for or tried this feature ?

Doesn’t show up in an FX slow in AUM

HotStrange

Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

[Deleted User]

@HotStrange said:
Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

What I see as very positive in this app is that modelling come at a high level to iOS , modelling seems better than samples for instruments as you can use it without budge memory and far more realistic. As I state and I was right from the beginning is that their pricing is complex and very confusing (I don’t talk about price but pricing model).

I think if more only iOS users buy it , they will certainly adapt their pricing model to make it easier as their first target was Destop users of their VST gift of an iOS app not targeted to iOS only users.

Paulo164

@Gavinski said:

@Paulo164 said:
Speaking of IR loading, I read that PianoTeq can be used as an effect. You put audio in and the audio is processed through the resonator of the piano.
So I guess you could add sympathetic string resonance to any incoming sound.
And I guess also it must accept midi IN to know which keys are being pressed.
Anyone has search for or tried this feature ?

Doesn’t show up in an FX slow in AUM

Maybe this feature is available only as VST3 on desktop. Some links dealing with the topic :

https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=10252

https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=9924

HotStrange

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:
Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

What I see as very positive in this app is that modelling come at a high level to iOS , modelling seems better than samples for instruments as you can use it without budge memory and far more realistic. As I state and I was right from the beginning is that their pricing is complex and very confusing (I don’t talk about price but pricing model).

I think if more only iOS users buy it , they will certainly adapt their pricing model to make it easier as their first target was Destop users of their VST gift of an iOS app not targeted to iOS only users.

Pricing model could definitely use some clarification. I haven’t researched their whole website yet though so maybe it reads better there.

MrSpiral

@HotStrange said:

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:
Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

What I see as very positive in this app is that modelling come at a high level to iOS , modelling seems better than samples for instruments as you can use it without budge memory and far more realistic. As I state and I was right from the beginning is that their pricing is complex and very confusing (I don’t talk about price but pricing model).

I think if more only iOS users buy it , they will certainly adapt their pricing model to make it easier as their first target was Destop users of their VST gift of an iOS app not targeted to iOS only users.

Pricing model could definitely use some clarification. I haven’t researched their whole website yet though so maybe it reads better there.

It’s very simple. Go to the website and buy the desktop version of the app. Whatever you buy, you get on iOS.

OnfraySin

@MrSpiral said:

@HotStrange said:

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:
Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

What I see as very positive in this app is that modelling come at a high level to iOS , modelling seems better than samples for instruments as you can use it without budge memory and far more realistic. As I state and I was right from the beginning is that their pricing is complex and very confusing (I don’t talk about price but pricing model).

I think if more only iOS users buy it , they will certainly adapt their pricing model to make it easier as their first target was Destop users of their VST gift of an iOS app not targeted to iOS only users.

Pricing model could definitely use some clarification. I haven’t researched their whole website yet though so maybe it reads better there.

It’s very simple. Go to the website and buy the desktop version of the app. Whatever you buy, you get on iOS.

Simple as that. Pianoteq model pricing is the best.

Like someone said, This is the way

Gavinski

@HotStrange said:

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:
Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

What I see as very positive in this app is that modelling come at a high level to iOS , modelling seems better than samples for instruments as you can use it without budge memory and far more realistic. As I state and I was right from the beginning is that their pricing is complex and very confusing (I don’t talk about price but pricing model).

I think if more only iOS users buy it , they will certainly adapt their pricing model to make it easier as their first target was Destop users of their VST gift of an iOS app not targeted to iOS only users.

Pricing model could definitely use some clarification. I haven’t researched their whole website yet though so maybe it reads better there.

They have a comparison page there. Pro gives very little more than Standard. Standard gives quite a lot more tha than Stage but not everyone will need or want the extra functionality. Many people will genuinely not even need the cheapest tier, Stage, at all and will be happy enough with the free demo versions. Remember that in the presets where it looks like you can have only a small range you can click + down at the bottom (left if I remember?) of the keyboard and that will open up the whole range (apart from the 7 notes in 2nd and 6th octave that are left out of the demo versions. That means that, completely for free, you're already getting things like a Hang Drum with a far larger range than a real Hang Drum, which you'd have to order from Switzerland and would maybe need to wait a year to be built and delivered. And might cost as much as 3000 bucks. And that's just the pan drum! Anybody not checking out the free version of this is sleeping on what is easily the most bang for buck you get for free on the entire ios platform!

And if you like experimental stuff, remember: half speed is best speed. So you can always lower pitches using Gauss or Enso or Audiostretch or whatever!

[Deleted User]

@Gavinski said:

@HotStrange said:

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:
Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

What I see as very positive in this app is that modelling come at a high level to iOS , modelling seems better than samples for instruments as you can use it without budge memory and far more realistic. As I state and I was right from the beginning is that their pricing is complex and very confusing (I don’t talk about price but pricing model).

I think if more only iOS users buy it , they will certainly adapt their pricing model to make it easier as their first target was Destop users of their VST gift of an iOS app not targeted to iOS only users.

Pricing model could definitely use some clarification. I haven’t researched their whole website yet though so maybe it reads better there.

They have a comparison page there. Pro gives very little more than Standard. Standard gives quite a lot more tha than Stage but not everyone will need or want the extra functionality. Many people will genuinely not even need the cheapest tier, Stage, at all and will be happy enough with the free demo versions. Remember that in the presets where it looks like you can have only a small range you can click + down at the bottom (left if I remember?) of the keyboard and that will open up the whole range (apart from the 7 notes in 2nd and 6th octave that are left out of the demo versions. That means that, completely for free, you're already getting things like a Hang Drum with a far larger range than a real Hang Drum, which you'd have to order from Switzerland and would maybe need to wait a year to be built and delivered. And might cost as much as 3000 bucks. And that's just the pan drum! Anybody not checking out the free version of this is sleeping on what is easily the most bang for buck you get for free on the entire ios platform!

And if you like experimental stuff, remember: half speed is best speed. So you can always lower pitches using Gauss or Enso or Audiostretch or whatever!

Thanks gavinski I will use it as free iOS apps

McD

I downloaded an instrument preset where the creator changed the A pitch to 110Hz dropping the Guitar instrument down 2 octaves to make a bass preset.

That would never have occurred to me. It’s a clever hack. Going the other way towards 880 might make some bell like sounds.

Other calculated frequencies combined with transposing the scale might also produce new tones from the available instrument packs.

Tweaking the attack can get close to horn sounds.

I have found a tweak that sounds like strings yet. Mybe multiple instances with pitch shifts and softer attacks might get there. Add chorus or flanger to the unison mix?

Gavinski

@McD said:
I downloaded an instrument preset where the creator changed the A pitch to 110Hz dropping the Guitar instrument down 2 octaves to make a bass preset.

That would never have occurred to me. It’s a clever hack. Going the other way towards 880 might make some bell like sounds.

Other calculated frequencies combined with transposing the scale might also produce new tones from the available instrument packs.

Tweaking the attack can get close to horn sounds.

I have found a tweak that sounds like strings yet. Mybe multiple instances with pitch shifts and softer attacks might get there. Add chorus or flanger to the unison mix?

Ah, that sounds very interesting! I've also really been enjoying the clavichord at 415 Hz.

Has anyone succeeding in loading their own IRs yet? I'm probably happy to just use an external IR loader in the fx slot.

HotStrange

So after looking at the pricing model on their website I’m thinking standard may be the way to go. Surprisingly the Hohner pack is my favorite so far. And the Petrof is probably my favorite of the pianos. I’m thinking those 2 + 1 other would be my choice. Not sure I’d use it enough to justify the $800 for the Pro studio version. I just don’t need that many pianos.

Gavinski

@HotStrange said:
So after looking at the pricing model on their website I’m thinking standard may be the way to go. Surprisingly the Hohner pack is my favorite so far. And the Petrof is probably my favorite of the pianos. I’m thinking those 2 + 1 other would be my choice. Not sure I’d use it enough to justify the $800 for the Pro studio version. I just don’t need that many pianos.

I actually really love the clavinet too, in particular, but I felt I should really go for a Steinway or something instead. There are for sure differences between the pianos but I guess, with a bit of tweaking, you can get one to sound similar to another if you experiment enough and understand the parameters.

McD

This is an app for people that are really serious about pianos/keyboards of all types.

Pure Piano or an SF2 player with the SoundFonts4U instruments cover the needs of almost everyone here for a Piano that sounds real.

But for someone like me I love the subtle differences of the pianos around the world and the ability to tweak small details. I’m hoping @linearlineman finds a model he lives moves but his connect to the real deal can take apps out of the running due to latency or a lack of intimacy that the physical experience generates.

In a week this frenzy will die out here. Some will follow this app towards a laptop use and Logic Pro or Ableton.

Krupa

[Deleted User]

@McD said:
This is an app for people that are really serious about pianos/keyboards of all types.

Pure Piano or an SF2 player with the SoundFonts4U instruments cover the needs of almost everyone here for a Piano that sounds real.

But for someone like me I love the subtle differences of the pianos around the world and the ability to tweak small details. I’m hoping @linearlineman finds a model he lives moves but his connect to the real deal can take apps out of the running due to latency or a lack of intimacy that the physical experience generates.

In a week this frenzy will die out here. Some will follow this app towards a laptop use and Logic Pro or Ableton.

+1 at least someone logical

ErrkaPetti

@BerlinFx said:

@Gavinski said:

@HotStrange said:

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:
Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

What I see as very positive in this app is that modelling come at a high level to iOS , modelling seems better than samples for instruments as you can use it without budge memory and far more realistic. As I state and I was right from the beginning is that their pricing is complex and very confusing (I don’t talk about price but pricing model).

I think if more only iOS users buy it , they will certainly adapt their pricing model to make it easier as their first target was Destop users of their VST gift of an iOS app not targeted to iOS only users.

Pricing model could definitely use some clarification. I haven’t researched their whole website yet though so maybe it reads better there.

They have a comparison page there. Pro gives very little more than Standard. Standard gives quite a lot more tha than Stage but not everyone will need or want the extra functionality. Many people will genuinely not even need the cheapest tier, Stage, at all and will be happy enough with the free demo versions. Remember that in the presets where it looks like you can have only a small range you can click + down at the bottom (left if I remember?) of the keyboard and that will open up the whole range (apart from the 7 notes in 2nd and 6th octave that are left out of the demo versions. That means that, completely for free, you're already getting things like a Hang Drum with a far larger range than a real Hang Drum, which you'd have to order from Switzerland and would maybe need to wait a year to be built and delivered. And might cost as much as 3000 bucks. And that's just the pan drum! Anybody not checking out the free version of this is sleeping on what is easily the most bang for buck you get for free on the entire ios platform!

And if you like experimental stuff, remember: half speed is best speed. So you can always lower pitches using Gauss or Enso or Audiostretch or whatever!

Thanks gavinski I will use it as free iOS apps

…or buy the Stage version of Pianoteq just to support Pro grade software on iPad/iPhone…

echoopera

Was able to grab the standard version and am loving this instrument. It’s great that i can easily move between iOS and Ableton with all of this.

I really hope Modartt makes a hefty profit on the venture of porting their great tech to iOS. 👊🏼™️

Thanks Modartt if you’re lurking here 😉

ErrkaPetti

@echoopera said:
Was able to grab the Pro version and am loving this instrument. It’s great that i can easily move between iOS and Ableton with all of this.

I really hope Modartt makes a hefty profit on the venture of porting their great tech to iOS. 👊🏼™️

Thanks Modartt if you’re lurking here 😉

Agree on that!
Really hope that Modartt have this iPad/iPhone adventure paid with margin…
I went for Stage, but, longing after Standard version just to have possibilities to move microphones around.

Montreal_Music

@Gavinski said:

@Paulo164 said:
Speaking of IR loading, I read that PianoTeq can be used as an effect. You put audio in and the audio is processed through the resonator of the piano.
So I guess you could add sympathetic string resonance to any incoming sound.
And I guess also it must accept midi IN to know which keys are being pressed.
Anyone has search for or tried this feature ?

Doesn’t show up in an FX slow in AUM

Maybe you need the Pro version?

McD

@Montreal_Music said:

@Gavinski said:
Doesn’t show up in an FX slow in AUM

Maybe you need the Pro version?

No. That’s not showing with Pro. The FX in PianoTeq are similar to the suite of FX in any @Virsyn app. Most of us have better products from Dev’s like @FredAntonCorvest for the chorus, flanger, et all. So it’s not a big loss of functions.

The soundboard and sympathetic resonance features are built into the physical model and not some audio processor so that idea doesn’t seem to apply either.

I’m hoping the recent release of the guitar pack shows that they have pianos and keyboards covered and new packs might move to some strings or horns.

[Deleted User]

@ErrkaPetti said:

@BerlinFx said:

@Gavinski said:

@HotStrange said:

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:
Glad to see the reception - save from a couple people - has been positive. Gives me a lot of hope for the future of iOS music making! It’s gonna be late summer/fall before I’m able to splurge and get Standard but I’m looking forward to it. Seems to be just a really really great app. Who knows, maybe I’ll save even longer and get Pro 🤩

What I see as very positive in this app is that modelling come at a high level to iOS , modelling seems better than samples for instruments as you can use it without budge memory and far more realistic. As I state and I was right from the beginning is that their pricing is complex and very confusing (I don’t talk about price but pricing model).

I think if more only iOS users buy it , they will certainly adapt their pricing model to make it easier as their first target was Destop users of their VST gift of an iOS app not targeted to iOS only users.

Pricing model could definitely use some clarification. I haven’t researched their whole website yet though so maybe it reads better there.

They have a comparison page there. Pro gives very little more than Standard. Standard gives quite a lot more tha than Stage but not everyone will need or want the extra functionality. Many people will genuinely not even need the cheapest tier, Stage, at all and will be happy enough with the free demo versions.

Thanks gavinski I will use it as free iOS apps

…or buy the Stage version of Pianoteq just to support Pro grade software on iPad/iPhone…

Like other here I go first for free . When it come to serious buy I like to take time and grab sales. I should later buy the VST for Logic Pro as I got like you a MacBook / desktop Daw too.

I think too that It deserve PianoTeq to play it not on a decent keyboard and my midi keyboard contrôler is a 25 keys Arthuria micro lab and my finger are thick so I need to grab at least a 49 or 61 keys to enjoy it.

So like many I need first to enjoy the free version and try it on a decent keyboard 🎹 before any buy and should go to Stage.

You seems really a piano lover with skill and knowledge more than I. I do music as hobby and I am focus on deep house, electro but also Ambient. So my interest is PianoTeq8 for ambient.