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Will do in a few days … I’ll also try to do a screen recording as well
Is this MPE? I don't see any info on that in the description.
Not yet, but it's planned. Now that it supports polyphony it has a few required building blocks for MPE support. But I'm not sure when I'll get to it. Hopefully soon, I have a few more things/features to do before then.
Wow, thanks for the quick reply. Much appreciated!
Any ETA on Mela 5? Don't want to buy 4 if 5 is coming out "soon".
It depends on how long it will take me to do the 4.8, 4.9 and 5.0 versions. Haven't started any work on 4.9 or 5.0 yet.
Just a warning, things I'm about to say aren't promises, just some of the things I'm considering and thinking about. Since you asked the question I wanted to be transparent and give some sort of an answer. I may not end up taking any of the approaches below for whatever reason. It may not make sense, or there could be some technical issues, or I may come up with another approach that I think makes the most sense etc.
First approach, Mela 5 may not be a separate app in the App Store and Mela 4 will simply be replaced by a newer version of the app. The problem with releasing major versions as separate apps is that users don't automatically get the updates and all the reviews and App Store ranking is lost. This will however require a change in the business model. Probably a freemium model. For example, all the app/plug-in features will be free except for the modules. Users then can unlock modules by paying for them (still to be decided on the approach). If this happens, then all existing Mela 4 users will automatically have the existing modules unlocked for free forever. And they can decide when they want to unlock modules that ship with Mela 5. The new users will need to pay to unlock modules that shipped with Mela 4. All other new features will be free for all users. e.g. if/when I add undo/redo everyone will get it, and no one will need to unlock the feature. So in short, people will just pay to unlock modules. Unlocking means the UI of the module will become editable.
The alternative approach is to continue to do what I've been doing. Release Mela 5 and create a bundle to offer existing users a good deal. e.g. if Mela 5 will have the same price as 4 ($29.99), I could create a bundle with Mela 3, 4 & 5 in it and price it at $39.99. In this scenario, most users would end up paying $0 to $15 (depending on how much they paid for Mela 3 + 4). I think most Mela 4 users own Mela 3. So if you paid $9.99 for Mela 3 and $29.99 for Mela 4 you will end up paying $0.01 = (39.99 - 29.99 - 9.99). And I could also offer other bundles (e.g. just 4 & 5).
The first approach is kind of embracing what sort of business models Apple & App Store encourage. The second is really fighting the App Store and trying to retain the traditional upgrade path people are used to on desktops.
Again, just to reiterate, these are some preliminary ideas and not promises. Just wanted to be transparent. And whatever approach I end up taking, if there are no technical issues, I always try to reward loyal users. And if anyone feels mistreated due to various pricing systems I'm always happy to provide them with a promo code.
I appreciate you taking the time to give a thorough explanation of your thoughts. I do own Mela 2, but not 3, so was thinking of jumping aboard again
IAP would be ok for me in one app because in addition to the issues you mentioned, it's not easy to manage separate apps as a user. I can understand how this was difficult with Mela 3 to 4 but that seems more flexible now.
You're right, from a user's perspective it's simpler to have one app than to manage separate versions manually.
I really think this is the best approach (keeping the core synth and adding IAP modules) and it seems to be working very well for Tera Pro (for example). This would help you improve your App store ranking and reduce customer confusion.
Sweet, good to know users are open to the pricing model change.
I like this model idea too. I gladly own all the Tera Pro IAPs. I have both Mela 3 and 4 but didn’t get 4 until recently and would have preferred to get the update straight away. Makes more sense to me the way you propose.
I’ve seen and experienced enough to fully trust, support and look forward to whatever model best supports your continued commitment to Mela, financial and mental health @Nikolozi 👌🏽
@Nikolozi whatever crashing issue I was having seems to be resolved!!!!
I’ve got 1, 2, and 3, and am still navigating 3. I kinda wish they were all just in one app
@Nikolozi appreciate the transparency. It’s very refreshing. As you know I’m a big fan of Mela and I would also be absolutely fine with that new pricing model. I can certainly see both sides but being able to help your App Store ranking may be a big benefit in the long run.
Bought Mela 4 yesterday. Excited about diving in! Thanks @Nikolozi
I still have installed all Mela because of the old projects. Also persistently bouncing every Mela track out of fear that the developer will stop supporting the old version. I think that the quick full versioning system is weak in the long run. I’m glad to see @Nikolozi thinking about this.
I would like to see old-school Mela Classic live as long as it is possible (compatible with patches from Mela 1, 2, and 3), and Mela modular with IAPs would go along just fine.
But only @Nikolozi knows what is financially viable, so I will align with everything he thinks is the best.
Thank you all for your support and feedback, I appreciate it! 🧡
I think it's generally good advice to bounce your tracks often regardless of the plug-ins or DAWs you use. An app update could introduce a subtle bug that changes sound slightly and all of a sudden your song sounds different. These days I bounce everything very often.
If I go ahead with the first approach and stop releasing major versions as separate apps then I'll take your advice and rename Mela 3 to Mela Classic (it's a good idea!). I will keep it in the App Store and maintain it so it stays compatible with the OS updates.
Awesome. If you start experiencing crashes again do reach out with the details.
I’m confident in your decision, after all, you are a successful and well supported developer. I was just sharing my experience and thoughts, and I could also be a lone random forum member with wild ideas you shouldn’t take seriously. 😅
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Yesterday, I remember reading you were trying to wire up Mela as a MIDI Processor in AUM but I didn't get around to responding. Was about to, but I see your post looks deleted now. Did you figure it out?
He @Nikolozi - yes I sorted it. Thanks for reaching out though - appreciate it! No doubt I will have more questions in the coming weeks!
Cool, I'm always happy to help and answer questions
I have a question for those who are using both Mela 4 and Drambo. If your only intention was to create custom effect chains, which one would you use and why?
I honestly don’t think I could choose between them. Mela is probably my favorite iOS synth and Drambo is one of my favorite apps in general and they both excel at being instruments and effects. I think Mela does a little better with saturation and grittiness in my experience but the delay and FX racks in Drambo are a ton of fun to experiment with.
Just another vote for MPE. Mela4 is on my Wishlist, as I love the “build-it-yourself’ nature. But I am looking for something that is MPE as well. Regarding upgrades, I’d hate to jump in and buy Mela4 now, or in a month or two, and find it’s just about to e replaced with V5 as a new app, as I always like to keep up with the latest versions of my apps. So an IAP upgrade would be my preferred option.
The IAP would probably be the same price and the dev always does a discounted price for previous user when a new one drops and sometimes even gives out codes. But he said he may be changing to a Loopy Pro like model soon. Just depends on what’s the most financially viable for them to keep updating it (which they put a TON work into this app).
That said, this version is still relatively new and it doesn’t seem like an upgraded one is gonna come out any time soon. Especially not in the next month or 2. Lastly, the current version still gets all new updates and features. So you don’t have to buy “verison 5” to get new features. Mela 4 is getting updated all the time.
@HotStrange thanks for the info.