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  • @SixByNine said:
    @HotStrange thanks for the info.

    Sure thing! Merry Christmas 🎄

  • @SixByNine said:

    @Nikolozi said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    Is this MPE? I don't see any info on that in the description.

    Not yet, but it's planned. Now that it supports polyphony it has a few required building blocks for MPE support. But I'm not sure when I'll get to it. Hopefully soon, I have a few more things/features to do before then.

    Just another vote for MPE. Mela4 is on my Wishlist, as I love the “build-it-yourself’ nature. But I am looking for something that is MPE as well. Regarding upgrades, I’d hate to jump in and buy Mela4 now, or in a month or two, and find it’s just about to e replaced with V5 as a new app, as I always like to keep up with the latest versions of my apps. So an IAP upgrade would be my preferred option.

    Thanks for the feedback. There's not much to add as @HotStrange did a great job answering your queries. I'll add that I always try to make sure that the early adopters get treated fairly and hopefully rewarded unless there's some technical issue that I can not get around (e.g. App Store rules/limitations etc).

    (I added the MPE feature request to the feedback site to track it https://mela-feedback.nikolozi.com/feature-requests/p/full-mpe-support)

  • @Nikolozi said:

    Thanks for the feedback. There's not much to add as @HotStrange did a great job answering your queries. I'll add that I always try to make sure that the early adopters get treated fairly and hopefully rewarded unless there's some technical issue that I can not get around (e.g. App Store rules/limitations etc).

    (I added the MPE feature request to the feedback site to track it https://mela-feedback.nikolozi.com/feature-requests/p/full-mpe-support)

    Thanks for letting me know.

  • am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

  • @chaocrator said:
    am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

    haha, I'm also very happy with the release. The last few months have been a bit of a struggle trying to figure out the best business model going forward and I'm happy how it turned out. Luckily I've had great beta testers course correct me a few times :)

  • @chaocrator said:
    am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

    Certainly not. I am glad @Nikolozi is searching for a sustainable way to keep his updated versions of mela relevant on the App store and to get fair compensation for his continious development on Mela!

  • @Nikolozi said:

    @chaocrator said:
    am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

    The last few months have been a bit of a struggle trying to figure out the best business model going forward and I'm happy how it turned out.

    i was on beta and noticed that :smile: that collection model is really nice tradeoff.
    Mela + BAM became my to-go combo since BAM fixed dynamic parameters handling, so finally i can calm down and make music :D

  • @Butterfrog said:

    @chaocrator said:
    am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

    Certainly not. I am glad @Nikolozi is searching for a sustainable way to keep his updated versions of mela relevant on the App store and to get fair compensation for his continious development on Mela!

    Thank you for your support 🙏

  • @chaocrator said:

    @Nikolozi said:

    @chaocrator said:
    am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

    The last few months have been a bit of a struggle trying to figure out the best business model going forward and I'm happy how it turned out.

    i was on beta and noticed that :smile: that collection model is really nice tradeoff.

    Good to hear 🧡

    Mela + BAM became my to-go combo since BAM fixed dynamic parameters handling, so finally i can calm down and make music :D

    Oh yep, Imaginando devs resolved it very quickly.

  • @Nikolozi said:

    @chaocrator said:
    am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

    haha, I'm also very happy with the release. The last few months have been a bit of a struggle trying to figure out the best business model going forward and I'm happy how it turned out. Luckily I've had great beta testers course correct me a few times :)

    Congratulations on the new version! I like this new upgrade model, now I don’t need to have installed a dozen versions of the same synth. I just hope Mela3 will stay maintained forever. 

    Collections 1 and 2 were already unlocked. Collection 3 purchases have gone without any problems so far. Although Collection 3 is really slim at the moment, I really like the digital delay, simple LFO, and mid-side feature. I hope you will continue to add features to this collection, as you already promised. ;)

  • edited March 6

    @Luxthor said:

    @Nikolozi said:

    @chaocrator said:
    am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

    haha, I'm also very happy with the release. The last few months have been a bit of a struggle trying to figure out the best business model going forward and I'm happy how it turned out. Luckily I've had great beta testers course correct me a few times :)

    Congratulations on the new version! I like this new upgrade model, now I don’t need to have installed a dozen versions of the same synth. I just hope Mela3 will stay maintained forever. 

    Thank you 🙏. Yes, I think this new model simplifies things a lot. App Store won't be filled with many major versions of Mela anymore. And Mela 3 will stay on the App Store with maintenance fixes for the foreseeable future.

    Collections 1 and 2 were already unlocked. Collection 3 purchases have gone without any problems so far.

    Good to hear.

    Although Collection 3 is really slim at the moment, I really like the digital delay, simple LFO, and mid-side feature. I hope you will continue to add features to this collection, as you already promised. ;)

    Of course. New modules that will come with 5.x updates will all go to Collection 3. There are so many interesting modules I can't wait to implement.

  • @Nikolozi said:
    There are so many interesting modules I can't wait to implement.

    including step sequencer? :)

  • @chaocrator said:

    @Nikolozi said:
    There are so many interesting modules I can't wait to implement.

    including step sequencer? :)

    Hopefully :)

  • Really happy with the new model. Congrats on the release!

  • @auxmux said:
    Really happy with the new model. Congrats on the release!

    🙏🧡

  • Mela + BAM became my to-go combo since BAM fixed dynamic parameters handling, so finally i can calm down and make music :D

    Same, but Mela + EG Nodes and/or Loopy Pro. I feel IOS music production is pretty blessed at the moment!

  • edited March 6

    @Nikolozi

    doesn't work unless you have ios 17, that wipes out alot of ipads.

  • @Danny_Mammy said:
    doesn't work unless you have ios 17, that wipes out alot of ipads.

    Correct, it requires iOS 17 or macOS 14. I'll just copy paste my answer from Mela FAQ:

    Will Mela support earlier versions of iOS or macOS?

    Unfortunately, Mela will not support earlier versions of iOS and macOS. I know it’s very upsetting to the users on older devices that can’t upgrade to the latest OS. But I have very limited resources. I currently have to test and support all 3 types of Mela plug-ins (Instrument, Audio Effect and MIDI Processor) inside multiple AUv3 hosts (GarageBand, Logic Pro, AUM, Cubasis, Live etc) on multiple devices with different form factors (iPhones, iPads and Macs). That’s a lot of work as it is, and supporting older OS versions would significantly increase the debugging and testing required. Furthermore, Mela usually utilises the latest OS features. Writing code to incorporate the same functionality on older devices is non-trivial work. Finally, I have a long list of user feature requests, and I would rather focus my efforts on that.

    More at https://nikolozi.com/mela/faq/

  • edited March 6

    @Nikolozi said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    doesn't work unless you have ios 17, that wipes out alot of ipads.

    Correct, it requires iOS 17 or macOS 14. I'll just copy paste my answer from Mela FAQ:

    Will Mela support earlier versions of iOS or macOS?

    Unfortunately, Mela will not support earlier versions of iOS and macOS. I know it’s very upsetting to the users on older devices that can’t upgrade to the latest OS. But I have very limited resources. I currently have to test and support all 3 types of Mela plug-ins (Instrument, Audio Effect and MIDI Processor) inside multiple AUv3 hosts (GarageBand, Logic Pro, AUM, Cubasis, Live etc) on multiple devices with different form factors (iPhones, iPads and Macs). That’s a lot of work as it is, and supporting older OS versions would significantly increase the debugging and testing required. Furthermore, Mela usually utilises the latest OS features. Writing code to incorporate the same functionality on older devices is non-trivial work. Finally, I have a long list of user feature requests, and I would rather focus my efforts on that.

    More at https://nikolozi.com/mela/faq/

    mmmm, im not sure if i agree about supporting ios 16 is such a big task. but fine , its your app.

  • @Danny_Mammy said:

    @Nikolozi said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    doesn't work unless you have ios 17, that wipes out alot of ipads.

    Correct, it requires iOS 17 or macOS 14. I'll just copy paste my answer from Mela FAQ:

    Will Mela support earlier versions of iOS or macOS?

    Unfortunately, Mela will not support earlier versions of iOS and macOS. I know it’s very upsetting to the users on older devices that can’t upgrade to the latest OS. But I have very limited resources. I currently have to test and support all 3 types of Mela plug-ins (Instrument, Audio Effect and MIDI Processor) inside multiple AUv3 hosts (GarageBand, Logic Pro, AUM, Cubasis, Live etc) on multiple devices with different form factors (iPhones, iPads and Macs). That’s a lot of work as it is, and supporting older OS versions would significantly increase the debugging and testing required. Furthermore, Mela usually utilises the latest OS features. Writing code to incorporate the same functionality on older devices is non-trivial work. Finally, I have a long list of user feature requests, and I would rather focus my efforts on that.

    More at https://nikolozi.com/mela/faq/

    mmmm, im not sure if i agree about supporting ios 16 is such a big task. but fine , its your app.

    Feel free to sell your own apps and then you can choose to support as many or few versions of iOS/iPadOS/macOS as you want. He can run his own business how he wants.

  • @NeuM said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @Nikolozi said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    doesn't work unless you have ios 17, that wipes out alot of ipads.

    Correct, it requires iOS 17 or macOS 14. I'll just copy paste my answer from Mela FAQ:

    Will Mela support earlier versions of iOS or macOS?

    Unfortunately, Mela will not support earlier versions of iOS and macOS. I know it’s very upsetting to the users on older devices that can’t upgrade to the latest OS. But I have very limited resources. I currently have to test and support all 3 types of Mela plug-ins (Instrument, Audio Effect and MIDI Processor) inside multiple AUv3 hosts (GarageBand, Logic Pro, AUM, Cubasis, Live etc) on multiple devices with different form factors (iPhones, iPads and Macs). That’s a lot of work as it is, and supporting older OS versions would significantly increase the debugging and testing required. Furthermore, Mela usually utilises the latest OS features. Writing code to incorporate the same functionality on older devices is non-trivial work. Finally, I have a long list of user feature requests, and I would rather focus my efforts on that.

    More at https://nikolozi.com/mela/faq/

    mmmm, im not sure if i agree about supporting ios 16 is such a big task. but fine , its your app.

    Feel free to sell your own apps and then you can choose to support as many or few versions of iOS/iPadOS/macOS as you want. He can run his own business how he wants.

    i basically said the same thing in the very post you highlighted about it being his own business obviously.

    I thought is was a valid question about supporting older ios versions, we aren't talking ios 11 here, ios 16 is already dropped.

    When mela 6 comes along will it only support ios 18?

  • @Danny_Mammy said:

    @Nikolozi said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    doesn't work unless you have ios 17, that wipes out alot of ipads.

    Correct, it requires iOS 17 or macOS 14. I'll just copy paste my answer from Mela FAQ:

    Will Mela support earlier versions of iOS or macOS?

    Unfortunately, Mela will not support earlier versions of iOS and macOS. I know it’s very upsetting to the users on older devices that can’t upgrade to the latest OS. But I have very limited resources. I currently have to test and support all 3 types of Mela plug-ins (Instrument, Audio Effect and MIDI Processor) inside multiple AUv3 hosts (GarageBand, Logic Pro, AUM, Cubasis, Live etc) on multiple devices with different form factors (iPhones, iPads and Macs). That’s a lot of work as it is, and supporting older OS versions would significantly increase the debugging and testing required. Furthermore, Mela usually utilises the latest OS features. Writing code to incorporate the same functionality on older devices is non-trivial work. Finally, I have a long list of user feature requests, and I would rather focus my efforts on that.

    More at https://nikolozi.com/mela/faq/

    mmmm, im not sure if i agree about supporting ios 16 is such a big task. but fine , its your app.

    How would you know how much of a task [time and expense relative to money earned for that time] it would be for the dev to provide that support? While folks may want developers to do certain things (and have every right to want those things), I think most people have no idea what it would require to provide those features or how much the dev earns from the software and what other things compete for their time.

    I think if someone tells you "I don't have the resources to do that", you can kind of take them at their word that they don't have the time/resources as disappointing as that might be.

  • Hope this works out for you! As an owner of 3 and 4, can't wait to see the new modules...

    @Nikolozi said:

    @chaocrator said:
    am i the only one who is happy with Mela 5 release? :smile:

    haha, I'm also very happy with the release. The last few months have been a bit of a struggle trying to figure out the best business model going forward and I'm happy how it turned out. Luckily I've had great beta testers course correct me a few times :)

  • @Nikolozi i use your midi modules in EVERY jam I do since you added them. They add so much flexibility without me having to “hard code” a sequence. Mela, Bram's scaler, Riffer (or Thesys), are the core of every session.

    Request: would you consider including scale presets within the scale module somehow. No big deal, as it is now I use your onboard scale module when I know the scale, but often I have to look it up or use Rozetta etc

    (By which I mean sequence steps by hand)

  • @Danny_Mammy said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:

    @Nikolozi said:

    @Danny_Mammy said:
    doesn't work unless you have ios 17, that wipes out alot of ipads.

    Correct, it requires iOS 17 or macOS 14. I'll just copy paste my answer from Mela FAQ:

    Will Mela support earlier versions of iOS or macOS?

    Unfortunately, Mela will not support earlier versions of iOS and macOS. I know it’s very upsetting to the users on older devices that can’t upgrade to the latest OS. But I have very limited resources. I currently have to test and support all 3 types of Mela plug-ins (Instrument, Audio Effect and MIDI Processor) inside multiple AUv3 hosts (GarageBand, Logic Pro, AUM, Cubasis, Live etc) on multiple devices with different form factors (iPhones, iPads and Macs). That’s a lot of work as it is, and supporting older OS versions would significantly increase the debugging and testing required. Furthermore, Mela usually utilises the latest OS features. Writing code to incorporate the same functionality on older devices is non-trivial work. Finally, I have a long list of user feature requests, and I would rather focus my efforts on that.

    More at https://nikolozi.com/mela/faq/

    mmmm, im not sure if i agree about supporting ios 16 is such a big task. but fine , its your app.

    Feel free to sell your own apps and then you can choose to support as many or few versions of iOS/iPadOS/macOS as you want. He can run his own business how he wants.

    i basically said the same thing in the very post you highlighted about it being his own business obviously.

    I think what you wrote in your previous post reads a bit unfriendly and that's why others reacted the way they did. But I'm sure you didn't intend it to sound like that.

    I thought is was a valid question about supporting older ios versions, we aren't talking ios 11 here, ios 16 is already dropped.

    Sure, it is a valid question to ask about supporting older OSes. I tried to give a concise answer in the FAQ. And I will just add that previous experience has shown me it's more optimal resource-wise to keep dropping support for older OSes. I can go into a lengthy explanation about why that is, but I'll save that for another time. It would be a long essay. This is speaking for myself. I'm sure it's different for different developers.

    When mela 6 comes along will it only support ios 18?

    That's correct after 3-6 months when it becomes obvious majority of users have moved on to iOS 18 then Mela will drop support for iOS 17. btw this is not new, Mela 4.8 already required iOS 17. And this is not an issue for the existing users, if a user on iOS 16 bought Mela 4.0 they could upgrade to Mela 4.7 and keep using that version until they are ready to upgrade their system to iOS 17.

    It was quite surprising to me how quickly iOS music users upgraded to iOS 17 last year, that is why Mela 4 dropped support for iOS 16. I needed to do some optimisation work in the 4.8 update and it was a great opportunity to make things tighter with iOS 17 and not worry about 16 also.

    Another interesting fact is that because I drop older OS support faster than say other devs, in the past, I often received many emails from users asking me to support older OSes. Over the years number of people asking me to do that reduced. Now it's very rare, and to me, that's another indication that supporting older OSes is not worth it.

    Hope this clarifies some things.

  • @GUB said:
    Hope this works out for you! As an owner of 3 and 4, can't wait to see the new modules...

    Thank you 🙏🧡

  • @audiblevideo said:
    @Nikolozi i use your midi modules in EVERY jam I do since you added them. They add so much flexibility without me having to “hard code” a sequence. Mela, Bram's scaler, Riffer (or Thesys), are the core of every session.

    Awesome, good to hear 🧡

    Request: would you consider including scale presets within the scale module somehow. No big deal, as it is now I use your onboard scale module when I know the scale, but often I have to look it up or use Rozetta etc

    (By which I mean sequence steps by hand)

    There's a feature request already for this, is this what you are looking for? https://mela-feedback.nikolozi.com/feature-requests/p/midi-scale-module-add-key-and-scale-dialer

    Do you just need standard major/minor scales or any other exotic ones?

    Feel free to add comments there or let me know, and I can add them to have everything in one place.

  • @Nikolozi scale dialer sounds good. Actually if you could save scales inside the app like a preset within a preset that would be "best". Give the common ones, church modes, and the possibility of either importing or saving your own scales separate from a preset ( aka within the scale node )

    LMK if thats a good idea or even possible. Respect.

  • @audiblevideo said:
    @Nikolozi scale dialer sounds good. Actually if you could save scales inside the app like a preset within a preset that would be "best". Give the common ones, church modes, and the possibility of either importing or saving your own scales separate from a preset ( aka within the scale node )

    LMK if thats a good idea or even possible. Respect.

    Great idea, I think module presets would be a very useful general feature for all modules. https://mela-feedback.nikolozi.com/feature-requests/p/module-presets

  • @Nikolozi said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    @Nikolozi scale dialer sounds good. Actually if you could save scales inside the app like a preset within a preset that would be "best". Give the common ones, church modes, and the possibility of either importing or saving your own scales separate from a preset ( aka within the scale node )

    LMK if thats a good idea or even possible. Respect.

    Great idea, I think module presets would be a very useful general feature for all modules. https://mela-feedback.nikolozi.com/feature-requests/p/module-presets

    My vote goes to Undo / Redo functionality first, this will elevate Mela into the serious tier. ;)

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