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I think there are many aspects of it that are fine.. maybe it can help me find a snare that fits quicker 😉
But I think many people will view AI music in the same way they veiw a big name visual artist who pays others to paint his works for him.
I’ll still enjoy making my music and being very honest, plenty of people have hated on electronic music since its beginnings. The musicians union once banned synthesisers.
If an AI plug in helps programme hi hat variations based on what i have already done… I’m gonna use it if it sounds good!
Ive never really used preproggramed off the shelf music “loops” (stems) like some do.. but.. hey… they enjoy it! And hit records are made using such things… but I like making those bits myself.
DJs are treated like gods just for playing records… im sure we have nothing to fear. (No offence intended, DJs)
If one is in the art or music production business, this might be why having an A.I./machine learning assistant would make one more efficient. I think those who use these newer tools will be taking over in the interim... until they are replaced completely.
I think AI will de prioritise the importance of mechanical skill involved in playing individual instruments- something simply irrelevant, not required on the journey.
This will liberate those who find enjoyment and expression in that skill , and those who enjoy witnessing that human skill, from doing it for any other reason than enjoyment, challenge, personal development.
For all functional musics - soundtracks, generic pop, advertising etc - each musician will become their own musical director/producer/engineer, curating a combination of AI ‘collaborators’ together with their own creative inpu, which may be old school musical mechanical skills at guitar, keyboard etcetera, but which also will extend into the new field of AI Whisperers/Prompt engineers, especially gifted interpreters who can conjure forth aural magic from these tech daemons through the spells of their prompts, at a level equivalent now to a virtuoso guitarist compared to a three chord campfire thrasher.
It is a brave new world, that has such creatures in it.
Keep in mind that much of rap and pop music "liberated" skilled musicians via sampling long ago. Skilled musicians are a charming reminder of an earlier era now.
Tell that to Nashville,,,,
Huh? Wow - still seems pretty awful to me. A weird parody of music to me.
Yah it is still in that 'Money For Nothin' music video phase. In terms of progress it has come a long way but not everyone can appreciate the baby steps.
What’s interesting about this is that the perception so far has been that AI is really only coming for the 'lowest hanging fruit' i.e the most simple and derivative of styles, sub-genres etc. and yet here is actually an example (I'm referring to the 2nd track) of a song that has an interesting arrangement, with some interesting chord changes and more melodic interest than can be found in much of popular music these days.
In this example, it’s not fully-realised, and not all of its 'choices' are landing. However, its already done enough that a somewhat musically-literate songwriter could take what’s there and make a finished track. This would make AI more like a songwriting partner than a one-man-band.
Really interesting points have been said about what it means to be a creator, an artist in a world where technical knowledge and expert crafting will be challenged by AI increasingly.
When you take the Drake x The Weeknd song made 100% with AI (reproducing the voice of the artists, rapping on a beat) made millions of views and has been considered by some as one of Drake's best performance lately, there's a huge amount of questions that rise from this in terms of ethical and copyrights for the music industry has to adapt quickly.
In music production, i often like spontaneous composing, recording live and letting the flow bring happy accidents, get inspired by them and refine afterwards. I wonder if an App or service will one day propose samples generated by prompts for specific needs, as it is already for Midjourney.
Ex: "Gritty and Funky bassline, Daft Punk inspired, in C, 123 Bpm"
That generated an infinite combinaison of HQ audio samples (and midi files) of it.
I guess i could definitely use that !
Sure it is @AudioGus !
But look at Midjourney progress over just a year as an exemple :
‘Business’ will always find ways to cut corners and maximise profit. But my comment was ‘for me’. Creativity as a personal expression, not a product.
Neither excited nor skeptical. It’s taken a while, but I’m finally understanding that art (at least for me) is about the journey not the result. AI is result-driven, and those who would use it would seem to be doing so to minimise as much of the journey as possible, to get to the finish line.
The more I hear about AI, the more firm my resolution to avoid using it; at least for anything but the most mundane of tasks, that might otherwise take me away from the things I most enjoy.
The AI in art and music will rise many battles and many cases will go to court to have law decisions about it. All is not only about tech but for music about what you can or can’t do without having problems with lawyers of Major labels.
Personally I prefer not use AI for music creation as I love create by myself fist , second I don’t want to go to court for a AI track on Soundcloud or YT for what is for me only a hobby with no monney involved.
I for one enthusiastically embrace my future collaborations with our AI overlords… actually, I really do!
As someone with no musical skill, my whole practice to date is already based on ‘curating’ a mix of random and generative tools to create noises that are pleasing to me.
My relationship to my own music is thus already more like that of a commissioning client to a producer: ‘give me a bit more of that, do less of this, I like that bit…’ So being able to actually engage in that directed conversation with something which can bring the musical theory chops to the noise that I lack myself seems like a great idea. My only concern is that I doubt many music AIs are being deep-learnt on dark ambient…
I think this is 100% fake, when comparing to other "real" captions of this exact same technology. Sounds way to good with proper mixing and all, imo.
@Svetlovska… but do you consider the stuff you create ‘yours’, in the sense of having some characteristic signature that would be different for another creator (human or otherwise)?
And if so, would you consider using anti-mimicry measures to prevent an algorithm from succesfully learning from specific creations that you wanted share in order to represent you as a business entity?
Academic question in this moment maybe, but surely AI counter-measures will experience growth of some sort.
But that is a skill. You're in fact composing, using intuition and skill to create a finished piece of music.
Do you want a computer to do that bit for you as well? What's left? What in the resulting composition reflects you, or your creativity?
A lot of music production of today is not the main element..it’s about social media and being popular. People aren’t striving to make music for people’s souls as much as trying to get shows or likes on social media. Maybe mankind will get bored of all this and get back to the art and creativity of music making. I know many of you here are trying to make music for not this reason, but the mainstream is out for big money and fame.
@monz0id, @Kewe_Esse : I guess I’m either arrogant enough or realistic enough to consider that it is extremely unlikely a music AI could do to my noises what it seems it could so easily do to Drake. At least, I accept a bespoke one trained on just my stuff might… but I can’t see it being in anyone’s interest to waste the CPU cycles attempting that.
I do enjoy the ‘curation’, and I like to think I can discern a through logic in the pieces I have produced, that means they all share something at least (incompetence? An over reliance on 20bpm, D Aoelian?) which makes them distinctly a ‘Cthonicist’ piece.
Ideally I want an AI to do as much or as little as I want it to at any given point, but no more, in the furtherance of a Cthonicist project.
For example: I recognise that my lack of music theory knowledge means that many of my pieces are more ‘static’ than they should be, rigidly sticking within a scale, and not utilising chord progressions much, if at all. If I could have an interactive Chat GPT style conversation with an AI along the lines of: “Develop this single phrase through several different mournful and or enigmatic chord progressions, modulating to another key, and compile each into a song structure.” - well then, I’d be very interested to see what it could come up with.
In fact, I got something like that experience from my desktop experiments with the Orb producer suite:
https://www.orbplugins.com/orb-producer-suite/
Which I found a lot more approachable than Scaler 2.
When/if I return to desktop, or shift my main focus to Surface Pro and Bitwig I can see me diving back into Orb, until the actual AI comes along.
Hmm, I wonder if some kind of ultra or subsonic embedded ambient signature could be used as a baseline test to misdirect mimic algorithms re: the musical content of audio files…
As the autocomplete feature in Gmail ?
I admit that it would be really interesting as a workflow.
Ex: Starting to write chords, AI suggesting the next one (or ones) and you keep exploring by generating infinitely until you've found the one fitting, then on and on.
@LouisH : Exactly! That would be a very interactive and interesting way of working. A musical autocomplete. What a great concept. Have it as a continuous, extending time line:
I enter a chord, short melodic phrase, whatever. The AI takes note of the phrasing, tempo, notes, (or at least pitches in the cases of the sfx and found sounds I often use), plays it, adds to it, loops the two. I can add more, selected from musically coherent choices, inversions, whatever, that the AI knows, or just hit the ‘prompt’ button to get it to offer me it’s own best three noises to choose from. I pick one, mess with it, the AI keeping me on the straight and narrow (if I want that), and on, and on. Some shapes I enter - it autocorrects my bum notes. Some shapes that I approve, it enters. All the time, the piece is looping, playing back, letting me hear it develop… Fine grained interactivity at all times at the individual note, tempo, chord level, with as much or as little free noodling or AI suggested filler as I wish. This would be excellent.
A separate AI skill set then does a pro job of creating a sparkling mud-free final mastered mix from my own curated selection of sounds.
(I do think sound engineer is likely an endangered species once AI gets rolling.)
Perfect.
I think that's the essential gist of it really, the balance between how much of the creative work is done by AI, and how much is done by the artist (musician, illustrator, writer etc.).
AI output on it's own, to me, is just throwaway digital noise. It's not art, or music, or creative writing. But it can be a useful tool for creative people.
Obviously it will be abused by corporates who will take the opportunity to cut corners and make more money, but since AI feeds on what already exists, human creatives will always be one step ahead.
'Human creatives' - I didn't think I'd be typing those words in my lifetime...
I think this is where it’s supposed to be heading, no? Having never tried any of the chat or art stuff, I'm out of the loop. But it seems that what you’re suggesting is the end goal i.e to be able to order custom-made musical elements (whole tracks even) in the way one might order a meal.
It just comes down to how you wish to interact with your music. You certainly shouldn’t be expected to have to do 100% of everything. In fact this whole 'wearing all hats' thing is relatively new. When I started with music, back in the 80's, there was more delineation between the various processes involved in bringing a final 'product' to life. This was partly unavoidable given that accessing recording equipment was not so easy for most, unless they were specifically trained in these areas, or jus plain rich enough to buy whatever was needed. More that that, although there did exist many solo artists, the tendency seemed more towards being in bands.
All this mean that most people just had one thing to do - one role. Sure, as a guitarist, one might’ve needed to sing BV on the odd occasion. But generally speaking, the vocalist wrote lyrics and sang, the keyboard player wrote the parts for the keyboard, and the drummer drank too much and…(just kidding).
If any of these bands got lucky, they'd be whisked off to a studio, where roles were similarly separated. The engineers set up the mic's and did the recodings. Sometimes they'd be the same person who did the mix, but nit always. Mastering was usually a completely separate job, handled in a separate facility and by someone with a different skill-set and experience. Then packaging, releasing, promoting etc. were done by others.
Now the norm is that all these jobs are handled by one person. It’s not uncommon for one person to be the composer, lyricist, arranger, performer of all instruments (even if all played via ine standard controller). They also take on the roles of mix-engineer, mastering-engineer, and are involved with all promotion etc.
In most cases, and for most people, this is not compatible with life in general, nor in many cases would all these roles be interesting even given all the free-time in the world. So something's got to give. It’s totally understandable that musicians would want to delegate various of those processes to others, even if those others are computer-automated and/or artificially intelligent. In many ways this is similar to collaboration.
I guess it’s just up to each individual to work out which and how many of these processes can be delegated while still feeling a sense of ownership of or having created the outcome. If you’re someone who is not good at writing basslines, and have no interest in learning how, then I don’t see an issue in delegating that to AI. It’d be akin to hiring a session bassist, and asking them to play something 'in the style of…'. That’s not to say that I think it wouldn’t be preferable to hire an actual person for that role, but that’s gonna be much more difficult.
All that to say: work out which parts of the process bring joy and lean into those. However, I would say that, where possible, try to learn new skills so as to be as much a part of the process as possible. I think this will ultimately be more fulfilling 👍
Interesting! I'd say that your creations, both in conceptualisation and realisation, have a depth that far belies your description of the process. Also, good curation relies on taste and discernment. It is very much part of the creative process.
Agreed. As well as many mastering and voiceover studios.
In other news: The UK is trialing the first driverless public bus service. Actually if I not mistaken this is already past trial.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-65589913
Thank you. Cosignature
AI will be used more and more in the front lines of military. Soldiers will be more like programmers and robots will be fighting for our lands. Sci- if is here. Mankind is thinking it will save us and help us, but it may end us. Greed will end humanity,
Nothing new, there. That’s been a gradual progression since day one.