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My apologies, I misattributed to you because two different posts got comingled in my comment editing area, and I deleted the wrong text. It was a quote from user monzoid, above this in the thread. It's corrected now in my earlier post. Sorry for the mistake, again.
For a while now, I've happily leaned on Messrs Neutron and Ozone to assist me in my mixing and mastering, as this is an aspect I've traditionally not enjoyed. But recently I've started some courses so that I can improve my mixing chops, and not rely on AI entirely (Though i will no doubt still employ it as 'a second set of ears'). Mastering may follow afterwards.
In terms of handling admin, promotion etc, I'd happily outsource that if I could afford to, but my preference would be to employ the services of humans, wherever I could.
The same would apply somewhat to the music-making process. It has to be done by me, even if I'm approximating (or trying to) real performances (badly) with virtual instruments. I have no interest in handing any other part of the music creation over to AI. I'd rather a lesser-quality part played in by me, than a wonderful rendition from an AI. I'd be happy to employ or collab with other humans, though.
Oh, and...My first call drummer would probably be Vinnie Colaiuta. Gadd is great, though
Ah, cool! Didn't sound like something I'd say
Because music and the arts could be swamped (already started to happen) by Dave from Sales regurgitating 500 ‘fantasy art illustrations’ in his lunch break and breaking my Instagram feed, while early-retired uncle Cecil knocks out a couple of top-20 ‘hit’ albums under the name of ‘Cecilia Sings’ before bedtime, and destroys the credibility of popular music forever.
Pollution. Noise. A flood of regurgitated soulless pap which actual creatives would struggle to be heard or seen against, with future generations denied of the inspirational ‘human’ artists that we’ve aspired to be for the last millennia or two.
Absolutely.
Similar thoughts here. Your comment reminds me of the virtual drummer personas in Garageband and Logic Pro, where drummers are identified by human names. They only use first names, and I thought they were supposed to correspond to real people (e.g., a Neil could correspond to Neil Peart) but maybe not.
In any case, people using these apps identify drummer styles by the virtual persona. For example, looking at a Logic forum thread (from 2017!) I see someone said this regarding the virtual drummer in their project:
"Anders is the main man for my current project but I'll sometimes switch him out if I'm looking for a different style."
and someone else this:
"I played around more with Kyle (since he was the default). For some songs, he still fits best. But I've noticed that depending on the genre, some drummers just work better. If I'm writing a rock, hard rock or punk rock type of song, Max often works pretty well. If I'm working on a more mellow song or something very soft rock, Aiden seems to work well. And lately, I've been using Zak a lot. Especially for more pop rock songs or songs with more swing in them. In fact, I think Zak is my current fave. "
and another:
"I have probably used Darcy the most because I tend to like parts that aren't too busy. She has a lot of range toward the simpler side of the grid where some of the others seem to play mostly complex loops."
and someone said:
"I think it was a shrewd move to assign personae to the different drummers. It seems easier to think of them as different players rather than 'modes', particularly given the stylistic overlap some have."
And all this was way back in 2017.
Thread where these quotes come from: https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/which-logic-x-drummer-do-you-use.1857874/
Care to elaborate?
P.S I love 'Cecilia Sings'...She does a wicked "Always Something There To Remind Me"
I was agreeing with you, what I wrote didn’t sound like something you’d write.
Right. And I'd like to see a lot more virtual drummers from Apple. And virtual bassists, virtual rhythm and lead guitarists and virtual conductors. Why not? If you can "hire" the absolute best musicians in the world right now to work on your tracks if you have the money, why not let Apple build out machine learning models which draw from these pros styles and have them available for everyone? This is where Apple can do what we can't do and where they can offer something incredibly valuable for amateur and semi-pro musicians.
Because the magic happens when actual musicians play together in a room, bouncing off ideas between each other, not when you type ‘play a bass-line in the style of Lemmy, circa Hawkwind 1972’ into your computer.
ok. thanks
I guarantee 99% of the musicians who make music the way we do cannot call up the best session musicians in the world on a whim to record something. And the kind of virtual accompaniment I'm talking about will be very responsive to whatever you're playing, just like a real drummer, keyboardist, guitarist or whatever.
Why do you require “the best session musicians in the world” for your music? Are you thinking of entering Eurovision next year?
Ideally, one should be able to call up the tightest or sloppiest players they want at any given time, right?
If you get an idea at 2:00 am and have to lay down some tracks... wouldn't you like to have options? Maybe this isn't for you, but I'm confident most people would jump at this.
Since I’m not Paul McCartney I doubt I’d have the option to call up anyone.
Options being switching on the computer and getting an AI bass player app to write and create a bass line for my track?
No, absolutely not.
I’d have to ask myself why am I wasting time doing this at 2.00 am in the morning, when I could be making better use of that time actually sleeping. Or learning to play the bass.
To each their own.
Yeah I know, us musicians - what are we like!!
To each their own and I am finding it is not even an age/generational thing. I have a nephew in his teens who plays videos games, computer savvy, loves playing actual musical instruments and has zero interest in sequencers, vsts, daws blah blah.
Good for him. I know there's a bit of a renaissance among new guitar players right now and that's good for the future of the craft. And I've heard at least one absolutely fantastic younger drummer recently who rivals Buddy Rich at his peak.
Good on him. Most of the friends I’ve made over the years, have come from being in bands and generally mucking about jamming with other musicians. I even married one of ‘em.
Now I’m an old fart there’s not much of that now, and I miss it. But I’ve nothing against sequencers, vst’s, DAW’s etc. They’re tools for making music, not a replacement for creating it.
…or keys. Very good to learn to play real rather than virtual instruments, of course. But depending on how eclectic one’s taste and creative intent, not really practical to learn all the instruments we desire to use. But some basic keyboard skills and ahandful of virtual instruments goes a very long way
Definitely. And you don’t need to be Elton level - the beauty of recording a MIDI performance into a DAW is you can record your performance at your own speed, and redo any mistakes!
Even entering MIDI note-by-note (The modern-day musical staff) might be a preferred option for some. I tend to fall into the camp of trying to get it right in performance, but then massaging the MIDI afterwards, to bring certain things into line.
Hey guys,
What does the first card of this screen inspires you ?
Disbelief. Is this Working?
What’s the difference between AI generated and “intelligent patch randomisation” on a synth? Or chord/melody “helper” auv3s like Riffer or PianoMotifs?
You don't even play this thought experiment. I would say it is not far from true to say that every of us here at this forum should be aware there is MASSIVE amount of people on this planet who are making MUCH much more "beautiful" music.
Is that something what should destroy my creativity or the fact i enjoy doing my bleeps and bloops ?
No.
When it comes to music (or any form of art) - this is NOT competition at all. Not between people and not between people and AI. Just no, end of story.
Yes. The shallow music targeted for masses (common radio background noise), or music made for advertisements and so on - professionals should be a bit afraid cause AI allows do those things much more effective way so there will be less demand for their services.
But music made just for personal joy - that will always exists.
Once again : Art is not competition who is "better"
This one is a lot of fun
https://huggingface.co/spaces/facebook/MusicGen
This is crazy good. No one react to my previous post but I really think this deserve some attention. Try upload a sample as a reference and give a description of what you want the sample to be transformed into.
I am very much in the camp that nothing beats being in a room with other musicians to get in the flow of making live music. I’m also at an age and a level of professional responsibility that it has been very hard to find the time and people to do this. Jamming with piano motifs (and other generative apps) isn’t the same but it brings some of the same elements of serendipity and creative stretching. I guess PM is more algorithm than AI?
Yes it is, we're heavy on r&d and a first version will be deployed for test late 2023