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Inter-App Audio: The state of play in 2023
Thought to start a thread where users could collate information regarding IAA, going forward. In particular, it would be nice if we could get confirmation (or just some inkling) of how specific developers plan to deal with their apps going forward, whether that means they are working on AU conversion or they consider their IAA apps end-of-life.
So if any members have details about specific apps, please share. And if anyone is motivated to contact certain developers, please share any info they expressed permission to be shared, or perhaps ask if they'll come here and share, themselves.
Cheers!
Comments
Given that the biggest DAW on iOS (Logic Pro) doesn’t support IAA means it’s basically dead.
I’ve deleted all my IAA apps. I’m never going to buy from an App developer who hasn’t updated their apps to AUV3. Korg, I’m looking at you.
Logic will likely end up the biggest in overall use, but I believe Loopy Pro is going to be right up there. So I see it as a very significant thing that there is still enough love for what are still some of the best in musical experiences on the platform, that Michael would incorporate deprecated instruments and FX into his DAW, and so recently.
Unlike many here, I've never really managed to find enough of a solid workflow to finish tracks. But I still get a lot of joy from playing these instruments just for the sake of enjoyment, similar to how I play the guitar. So I'll keep using them until I can’t.
Even before the heavy foot of Logic Pro, IAA was nearly flatlined. A few developers are kind enough to continue to provide updates, but most are becoming ancient, and I know I just keep forgetting about them when building projects. It’s a damn shame, because there are some great instruments in that category, that I will sorely miss when that ecosystem finally dries up for good.
Why?
Because I have a Mac running Logic Pro and I want 100% compatibility between shared projects.
OK.
I'd miss a few of the nice old IAA apps.
At this point yes. I really hope Korg step up and update M1 and Wavestation to Auv3. I have both on desktop.
Tbf Korg did update Module and release Wave as an AUV3 but I get your point. They have a weird blind eye for iOS in a lot of ways.
Wonder if they lost money doing that.
Maybe that's why they have not done any others...
Supposedly Borderlands has an update coming. Whether that’s AU or not, idk but it’ll be a cold day in hell before I let go of that app. It’s probably my favorite app on iOS. With Samplr being included in Logic who knows what will happen there. Honestly besides DrumJam/Thumbjam, Borderlands, iWavestation, and a couple drum apps like Seekbeats and Patterning2, I don’t really use IAA apps anymore. I still have maybe a couple dozen or so on my iPad but that’s it now.
Nave, yes. And Attack!
I think there’s gonna be a bunch of iOSers that look at LP’s lack of IAA as a Limitation and a reason to use a real iOS DAW. CB3, AEM, and n-Track all have great portability to Macs, iPhones, Android, and Windows. Logic kinda neuters itself with its self imposed handicaps and appeals to folks with its “Pro” features. Honestly nowadays portability counts as a serious feature. Logic is late.
Oooh... them's fightin' words in these here parts! Brave man
I love all the things I can do on Logic Pro for iPad. I’ve already knocked some cool projects out using features not on other DAWs. Fair enough. But when I get done I instinctively wanna shoot the project over to my phone to listen in my car or when walking around. My life has changed, post Covid where I used to just sit in a studio with one DAW on a single device. I feel like music production has evolved has Logic is trying to catch up. Being Audiobus compatible and universal would be easy for them to do(they’re Apple) and would slam the door on other DAWs. Hoping but not likely.
Wishing that Lumbeat would update his apps.. iBassist, FD, etc. has to be just as revolutionary as LPi.
Somehow I can’t get them to run with LPi’s Ableton link…
One can only imagine having these gems as Auv3 running in LPi.
Edit @LuisMartinez
Just use your iPad running IAA as a sound source. No need to delete them all.
I love yout last sentence "Logic is late."
I keep thinking of an Orwellian version which is "Logic is hate".
Good slogan for the anti-Logic/subscription gang.
Just a point of the Korg Wave AUV3… it wasn’t loading in Logic Pro when I tried the other day 🤣
Korg really does need to pull its finger out… their only AUV3 isnt working for me.
What do you mean?
I just downloaded it. Loads in Logic Pro iPad. Pity it's not available on desktop.
I hope @mjcouche will correct me if I’m mistaken but I think it means to treat the iPad as a stand-alone instrument. I have maintained some old devices offline and frozen from updates just to preserve older IAA apps that I love and don’t want to lose to a fatal update. I still hope some will get updated to AUv3 but am sure not all of them will. Don’t know how long the hardware will survive but my 1st gen iPad still works…very slowly!
Good slogan for the anti-Logic/subscription gang.
I mean no hostility to Apple, they’ve created this amazing environment for all these great apps. I just wish they would embrace all the iOS environment they created, like they have the Mac environment.
We know they can do it if they made the corporate decision to go full iOS.
Yes, the failure to maintain even very good older apps and make them AUv3/AU at this point is inexcusable. I'm on board with getting rid of all laggards.
m> @NeuM said:
Inexcusable? An awful lot of very intelligent developers with far more knowledge of their revenue streams find that the economics aren’t there to justify putting in the time and/or money to create AUv3 versions of their apps.
If one doesn’t like using IAA apps, fine. But there are some excellent IAA with no real AUv3 equivalent that continue to work great. If you do like using IAA that’s obviously ok. To say that it is inexcusable for developers to lose money or be minimally profitable is puzzling — and inconsistent with your belief that market economics are always “right”.
Ah, Gotcha! Was actually looking into that a while back, to use an old iPad 2/1 Mini as separate 'Hardware' instruments, ut I only have a mono line-in on my interface. Did look into getting the cheapest Behringer thingie (20 quid...ish) but didn't end up doing it. i might still give it a go in MONO, though. Kinda suits what I'm after, at the moment
Or, if you're using a Mac you can connect directly to iPad via IDAM (no audio interface necessary), send midi back and forth and get audio output from the IAA app. None of this requires your desktop DAW or app to support IAA at all, which is basically irrelevant in this scenario.
It works well for me. I can play and record the apps into a computer-based DAW like Ableton, for example, or into Endlesss or into another iPad through an audio interface (I have one of those Behringers and it is quite decent) or just play them as live instruments. As @hes just said, IDAM makes it really easy if you use a Mac.
Thanks! But at the time, i was thinking about using it with Loopy Pro as a way of keeping both source and destination unfettered by any nonsense as screen-switching etc. But more than that, i wanted to set up a completely independent (from my desktop setup) iOS station. I wanted it to feel more DAW-less in spirit. Will probably re-visit the idea.
Cheers!
I do use a Mac, but want to be able to get away from it sometimes. I'd like to go a bit more ghetto, and iPad-2-iPad seems like a lot more fun