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Not necessarily, it ultimately depends on how his contract was written. It's not uncommon for experienced developers to shield their personal projects when taking a software development job.
I'm sure it's very clearly laid out in his employment contract, which terms could be anything he negotiated with them.
I've signed some standard employee contracts that stated the company owns any software I created while employed with them whether on my own time or not and whether or not related to that company's products, and further that I could not create any products even remotely competitive for five years after separation.
That’s a good point and I have no clue. But I wouldn’t put it past apple to have some kind of issue with that. He’s clearly a great dev, so if he did what he had to in order to get paid, I’m happy for the guy.
I don’t delete my IAA apps but I no longer buy new IAA apps.
Same.
I’m trying to think of the last IAA app I actually bought. I think it was LoopField a few months back (I’m late I know) and before that I’m not sure. Maybe one of those $.99 drum apps from AbuStudio
Merriam-Webster- Deprecate- "to withdraw official support for or discourage the use of (something, such as a software product) in favor of a newer or better alternative"
To add to this, from what I have read there is no support in Logic for IAA - that should give folks a pretty good idea of Apple corporate thinking. Maybe even as early as iOS 17.
I was curious, so I looked:
Riffler, Sept. 2021 (has since gone AUv3)
iOptigan, March 2020
Xequence 2, July 2019
Koala, March 2019 (has since gone AUv3)
Reggae Drummer, Feb 2019
Patterning 2, July 2018 (after much self debate)
I just looked as well and my latest one is actually Springsound during its recent update simply because it’s cheap and I’ve always wanted it. Before that it was Polyphase. Then it was Riffler for me as well.
Keep in mind that you can't simply go by the dictionary definition. Apple means something somewhat difference, which I summarized in the post you quote. FWIW, I was a developer for MacOS for something like 40 years.
For Apple, it does not mean withdraw official support. They are discouraging use of an API that they plan to discontinue at some time in the future. It could be as early as iOS17 (my guess is that there are enough important IAA apps that they probably won't dump it in iOS 17 but I certainly could be wrong).
When OSX first came out, they deprecated a bunch of APIs that they were still supporting about 15 years later. Some of those APIs, they even continued to use in some Apple products for many years.
The amount of support that deprecated APIs get varies considerably. Some get dropped quickly. Some don't. To some degree, it will depend on both whether there are large developers (such as Korg) that they want to make happy and who are being slow to adopt new APIs. It may also be influenced by whether there are a lot of IAA apps when taken together that are doing well enough that they decide to continue supporting IAA as developers transition.
As preferable as AUv3 are, host developers report that there are a lot of glitches in the AUv3 system that are hard to workaround. I.e. an AUv3 crash, in theory should not take the host down unless the host made a mistake. But there are known crashes even when the host does everything right.
I think there is a hope among host developers that Apple releasing Logic Pro on iOS will cause Apple to be more cognizant of these issues and deal with them.
Ideally, iOS should provide host-to-host protocols like there are in MacOS -- because some apps don't make sense as plugins and should be able to communicate with other hosts -- albeit in a better fashion than IAA.
My hope is that iPadOS 17 will introduce more sophisticated audio handling to enable e.g. multiple audio interfaces, and that audio subsystem will include IAA-compatible APIs. Given there are still IAA apps selling on the App Store (earning Apple money) and some of those are from developers Apple would probably like to keep in the ecosystem (Korg, Arturia) now that they’re selling a “pro” DAW, I’d be very surprised if they pulled the rug out from IAA anytime soon. I think there are enough audio use cases that AUv3 doesn’t serve, that something like IAA will always be necessary.
On the other hand, the release of Logic Pro for iPad feels like the first time in years that Apple has acknowledged iOS music production is even a thing, so who knows?
Logic Pro not supporting IAA should be a crystal clear indication to developers that they had better get on the AUv3 bandwagon soon. I'd say that anyone releasing a new app that doesn't support AUv3 is just putting their head in the sand and are doing a disservice to themselves and to their customers.
Imagine releasing a new music app that doesn't work with the most visible (and possibly best selling) DAW on the platform. Imagine the hit that existing apps will take that aren't compatible. Imagine the uptick in refunds from people who buy the app and find that they won't work in their DAW.
But I'd also say that those feeling that developers are under obligation to retrofit existing apps are just plain wrong. If the app works as advertised when sold, that's the end of it. If the operating system changes such that a feature such as IAA can no longer be supported, that's on Apple. Yes, the developer will lose sales. Yes, they should be required to update the app store description to reflect the new reality. But maybe they're not making enough sales already to repay the development cost. That is their choice.
Fair comment
It was for a while, but it's been getting fairly regular updates. And it is inarguably compatible with the latest versions of iOS/iPadOS/macOS. So no, it is not currently in disrepair.
I was referring to your reference to supporting of deprecated IAA functionality as being in disrepair. It was just a bit of ribbing. Ignore me.
I'm firmly in the "Apps don't need to be updated if they aren't broken" camp.
Haha. OK, you got me.
Just a silly question : affinity groovebox and Bloc waves are they AUv3 ? No updates for sometimes but new packages. Any news on the future of these 2 apps or Ampify ?
They're not AUv3.
Thanks I cross my fingers that they will be still ok as standalone for years as I love them
You can use as standalone or IAA in a DAW or AUM.
I use it only standalone. Do you think that Ampify will maintain it it seems that their DJ app is not anymore in the AppStore. I don’t know if they are subcontractors of Novation or an internal team still alive ? The 2 apps are fre only they make money with IAP particularly sounds packs.
I have no idea.
Their last FaceBook post was August 2022. But their web site is still up.
Thanks I will enjoy their apps standalone as many time it is possible hope for many years
I hope they’ll at least do maintenance updates as I really enjoy their apps too. Very high on fun factor.
Agree this is all about creating and having fun , you don’t have to learn it you do immediately good music, good sounds and can be pretty deep with good old synths love Horizon synth.
Perfect GUI, perfect AUX Apple should learn form these apps AUX a bit more as Logic iPad is not fun at all it is like working in an insurance company (worst time in my carrer insurance maintenance of cobol old softwares…)
Agreed the synths sound amazing. I wish they’d at least make the synths themselves AUs. I really like Logic so far but yeah not the most fun. I’ve been fairly productive in it though.
I do a break learning Logic Ipad even if I will subscribe one year to it. My brain need a break and go to create music and I will comeback to learn Logic IPad
Understandable. I’ve been mostly in AUM again the last couple days myself.
Secret Base Design developed Wireless Audio. It works between devices as well as between apps on a single device. I messed around with it trying to get audio from BM3 to Logic for Ipad. I got it to connect but did not get it to record to a track. I had just began learning Logic and wasn't familiar with the routing system so I will have to revisit that. But I was able to send audio from Logic for Ipad to BM3:)
https://apps.apple.com/app/id1597851234