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Momo releases IOS Editor and Soundbank for the Roland AIRA Compact S-1
https://roland-s-1-editor-soundbank.jimdofree.com/
I hope more will follow…
https://momomoter.jimdofree.com/ios-ipad-iphone-editor/
So it’s been out for a while now. How’s everyone liking it and what’s everyone’s general use case for it? Midi control, clip launching, etc?
I love it. I don't use any of the features though.
It's a bit redundant in my case since I'm mainly in Loopy Pro and Loopy already has much of Surface Builder's functionality. But I have a real soft spot for well executed apps that address a need that's been outstanding for a long time.
Fair enough! And I agree. It’s nice to see a dev connected to the iOS world and making an app that people really need or that there’s been a blind spot for.
Have you tried it as a clip launcher? I’m curious how it works there and how many clips you can use at once and the max length they can be. I doubt I’d chose it over Launchpad but who knows. It could be great for that. There just hasn’t been as much talk about that aspect from what I’ve read.
Nope. I only did a few basic tests.
I love custom backgrounds but I need the option to control multiple CCs with one knob, like Loopy Pro at least. So I’m not using SB because of lack of control and LP(for this purpose only) because of lacking background img. Compromise for me is Drambo. If nothing happens before Christmas I will code my own.
Surface Builder is a really valuable addition to the iOS platform, and could be used for anything. Going to build an MPE keyboard just for my needs. Great App! 🤩
Next time it’s on sale I may grab it just because. I can definitely think of at least a couple of uses for me. Though I do have Drambo, Loopy Pro, and a ton of other midi apps already.
I've used Surface Builder to create two utilities in AUM. One controls plugin windows - Select and Show/Hide - it sits in a tiny window in the lower right corner. The other uses buttons to control AUM transport - Start/Stop and Prev Bar/Next bar. Both are available over on Patchstorage.
I've also used it to map per-pad volume controls in BeatHawk so I have a mixer panel for all 16 pads, and am adding some controls for pan and ADSR, and other stuff - it will be a fully fledged MIDI console for the app.
These little projects just scratch the surface of what is possible. I plan to use it a lot more. I have Loopy Pro and Drambo as well, and I know that they can send and received MIDI coomands too, but somehow I find it easier to navigate and work in Surface Builder for the stuff that I want to do.
Thanks for the reply, is it easy enough to get a patch going? Also glad to hear there’s a patchstorage page for it. I’m sure people will be posting some cool/unique controllers.
It's very easy to get a patch going. Just add a control, then set the midi message you want it to send. If you don't know anything about midi you might get a little lost though.
Paul's videos cover every bit of the app. Takes a while to get through them, but they should answer all questions.
Got a faderfox pc12 and ec4.
Theres probably only knobs spare on ec4, which are encoder.
Is it worth buying this app. If I can only think to build a fader mixer in Drambo, which btw can be automated and will be edited, even after fader control.
I guess to maybe control multiple volumes simultaniously.
Probably a Drum mixer screen au and another mixer screen au.
I think loopy faders are x/y.
So just need standard midi. Although im reading midi resolutions arnt the best.
Does bluetooth of an app. Still only recieve on 1 device. Like a bluetooth controller ?
Or can I send a midi button via bluetooth to 2 ipads ?
FYI - Surface Builder is currently 50% off. Sale ends August 26.
You can only connect to one "central" device from a Bluetooth peripheral. So no, you can't send to two devices.
I'm not sure I understand you correctly, but I think the answer is that Surface Builder won't help you with what you want to do.
I've not seen anything to make me think Surface Builder would work well with encoders. I'll have to look into that further.
Drambo doesn't provide controller feedback which would be needed if you're going to be using automation and editing directly in Drambo. If you're going to use Surface Builder you would want to control everything only from the surface you designed or controls will be out of sync.
It could do those. I'm not sure how you envision that working with the ec4 though?
Both Surface Builder and Loopy have horizontal, vertical, and also XY controllers.
No problem there.
Thanks.
May just use encoder controller.
Then edit in Drambo.
Not buy app.
Thanks. It’s on sale now so might buy.
Is there a way in Surface Builder to create a note repeat function, similar to what you might find in KB1 Expressive Keyboard?
Sorry, no.
I asked momo every question imaginable. He was patience and answered all of them.
Buy it and support surface builder and this I guess dev (momo)
Surface builder is$7.98 and this is $7.00 so for $15 you get all you need: pretty good for an indie app and project and also it just came out . How did he even get it, build it in surface builder because that app makes no sense to me, and then sold within a month or so of s1 release ?? That’s what I wish to know momo or anyone affiliated with momo project
Surface builder is so niche but very useful
Did you get it while its lowest sale price $8? @HotStrange did you try it?
Wim, you seem to know about this app. Is there a way to let’s say access internal menu functions of the built in sequencer of a synth? Like how would you do that? From Paul video it looks like your need to know the MIDI CC of all the stuff unless there’s some other way to do it? Like reverse send keys ?CC send key to the hardware I mean if that make any sense
I actually didn’t but maybe I should have. I’ve noticed a couple of problems over the last couple days I probably could’ve solved with this lol
I’ll tell you when I saw the app and what the creator of the editor was asking (first to buy Surface Builder, and then buy his add on), I was like no way.
surface builder is so niche and I don’t use a lot of MIDI so I was like I’ll NEVERRRRRRR EVA use such an app. I figured it was for people who don’t have controllers or people who need serious shortcuts. As a new iOS producer I am liking the touch screen not offered by desktop and the S1 has a lot to it
You can draw your waves and chops and stuff like this but doing it in the LED menu is so hard to do. This has a lot of shortcuts
And it kind of offers a cool thing: PRESETS. I didn’t think the S1 did presets, but you can do it saving it with surface builder snapshot
It is not an app I would recommend to anyone who uses hardware. If ya likes ya hardware this ain’t for ya. This is the opposite, although it also can work the other way. I was able to send the midi from the S1 to the DAW
WHAT is the point of doing that? I don’t know. I honestly don’t . If it records the automation of the parameters I get it but if it’s just notes then I guess it’s good to just have an extra set of notes if you want to transfer it to another plugin?
A lot of the app doesn’t make sense to me but I also don’t know what I’m doing - I bought it for the editor maker S-1.
I don’t have any other hardware to use it on so I don’t know what else you could do with it but I’m curious , especially if I can do sequencer adjustments somehow
Whether or not you can control a hardware synth from Surface Builder depends on the MIDI implementation of that device. Sometimes Program Change (PC) messages are used to select presets. Sometimes midi CC's are used. Sometimes a more complicated protocol called Sysex is used.
Any synth that is midi controllable should have a midi implementation chart - usually at the back of the manual. This shows what controls are sent and received. It's this that you would refer to when trying to build a control surface.
I take it that you have a Roland Compact S-1 and have purchased the Momo Surface Builder control surface for it. In this case, Momo has done the research and work that you would have had to do yourself for that synth. Without looking at the midi implementation of the S-1, I can't tell you whether or not there are more functions of the S-1 that could be controlled via Surface Builder.
So when the S1 editor is loaded in to Surface Builder as an AU are any of the parameters exposed to send LFOs or something too? The website says automation can be recorded but I’m assuming that’s natively in the app?
Momo did a perfect job. He said he doesn’t have any more information , and now I see what he meant from your explanation.
I looked and the back of the manual has all the midi information but I suppose accessing internal submenu is different
Mono said if Roland updates f/w to include this he can update the editor
I must understand the manual because it’s like the old knob and button style because it’s so miniature
I need to also understand modulation, like I never heard of riser until now
This is ultra rad
@HotStrange said
I've tried routing LFOs to Surface Builder in AUM, but it doesn't appear to expose parameters to the AU host. It would be nice if it did - a real shortcut to mapping hardware CCs and easily sharable.
SB bug: box elements can mask other controls if not set to the bottom layer but this setting doesn't always stick.
SB instability: undo-ing copy/paste of multiple elements can result in app crash.
SB feature requests: editing multiple elements at once (e.g. setting multiple controls to the same group); expose named controls in AU hosts so they can be modulation targets; allow controls to send multiple CCs at once; display value override (instead of 0-127: "-63 to 63," "1-8," "0%-100%" suffixes, "A-B-C-D" for divisions of the control range, etc.)
Route directly to the app, not to the AUM parameter control system. SB has internal MIDI learn and assignment.